Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

...@eca.ac.uk Cc: soft_skinned_space empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au Subject: Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc) Hi Simon, perhaps there are degrees of narrative linearity, for me there does not have to be a literal audience

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

I know that this is far away from the original point that Richard Wright was getting at in terms of memory and animation. But I do think that there are aspects of animation that do get tied up in questions of memory and production, which are expressed not through formal experiments, but through

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk Cc: soft_skinned_space empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au Subject: Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc) Hi Simon, perhaps there are degrees of narrative linearity, for me there does not have to be a literal audience

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

To: soft_skinned_space empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk Cc: soft_skinned_space empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au Subject: Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc) Hi Simon, perhaps there are degrees of narrative linearity

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

: christopher sullivan csu...@saic.edu Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:16:37 -0600 To: Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk Cc: soft_skinned_space empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au Subject: Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc) I agree that the moment

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

This may be as much a matter of what is regarded as relevant training as it is to working conditions. If training is primarily begun in mastering very difficult software rather than in art making with the tools being factored in a little later, it is easy for this to happen. Christina Richard

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

I just saw this advert on another list. I expect they probably don't extend this history of the timeline into the practice of animation and film. Yet it seems logical to suppose such investigations might be relevant to the way we work... Cartographies of Time A history of the Timeline...

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

Out of this loong list I would say I am only familiar with the Quays, Simon, Joshua, Jim Duesing, Parn and the Animate people (who commissioned two of my own films). But I can't think of any particular films of theirs that I would describe as non-linear narrative in the sense I was

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

Dear Simon, Chris, Suzanne: Simon! How cruel. I want to fly out there this minute (time metaphor there we go). Please do promote such things. Sounds fantastic. (Too good about Chris Speed . I went to a bank teller the other day and the name plate said James Bank I am not a “good eve” though.).

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

There is the conundrum, that you can be as non chronological as you want, but people will still have to watch the work in forward chronological time. I am always surprised how audiences will organically try to empathize and make causal sense out of what ever is presented to them. Narrative does

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

Thyrza, the Perpetual ZOOZ piece looks great. I will add that to my data visualisation list. The gallery version is real time generated then (?), but the display is still the spinning planes we see on the web site? I thought for a second that it was literally two video monitors or data

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

Thanks Richard. I sent your note into Michael. What a fun idea to make February animation every year. Re: something christopher said about empyre in general about high brow/ low brow of discussion -- I wanted to add what's been so great about being part of this is the variety of voices, the

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc) Hi Chris. Thanks for the list of names. I had not heard of some who I really ought to have known. Rose bond. wonderful. Intra Muros is superb. I recently attended the introduction master class given

Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a long time ago: interpreting datasets, etc)

I always liked the quality in the Quay films where time seems to lose all its reference points. Those shots of dust settling or shadows dancing where you are no longer sure whether you are watching in realtime or over the course of hundreds of years. This also made me wonder why certain