Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear all: in the heatwave we have here (in my region), to think about ontologies of creativity or creation is not the easiest warm up task for trusting. (in theatrical terms, as mentioned here by helen varley jamieson, i trusted she refered to the physical performance studio, not the internet

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread davin heckman
In reference Simon's comment, I suppose I should have offered clarity as to what I meant rather than the sloppy generalization I offered previously. I meant to associate the term with an expression of ego. Not so much that it is the first word. But it is a word that seems to require extensive

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread Eugenio Tisselli
Hi Helen, I fully agree with you that commonality is a necessary condition for the emergence of a community... which, in turn, will constantly transform the very nature of that commonality through interaction between its members. I also believe that commonality can be subtle, or even

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread Eugenio Tisselli
Davin, I would like to add to your contribution. this consciousness outside of language.  Situated in our own personal archive (individual memory), we reach into the collective archive (culture).  Thinking of our individual futures (self-determination), we move into a commonly held future

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread Simon Biggs
On behalf of Julian Oliver ..on Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 12:04:26AM +0100, Simon Biggs wrote: I am hoping it is possible to find another way through this maze. It would seem many in this discussion agree that creativity and identity are intrinsically linked. Some seem to accept that this is not

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 12:04:26AM +0100, Simon Biggs wrote: I am hoping it is possible to find another way through this maze. It would seem many in this discussion agree that creativity and identity are intrinsically linked. Some seem to accept that this is not something that happens in

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread helen varley jamieson
this looks like a great project, eugenio. it brings to mind a smaller, not networked, but similar project led by a friend of mine a few years ago in backa palanka, a small town on the border of serbia croatia. people in this town who had formerly worked, lived, played together on either

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-07 Thread gh hovagimyan
Perhaps an ontology of groups is in order. In USA we look at statistical groups for demographics, you know groups to sell something to or voting blocks. Then there are belief groups such as churches and fringe groups such as sovereign state people or Aryan nation or tax rebellion. The

[-empyre-] test

2010-07-07 Thread helen varley jamieson
my posts aren't coming thru; if this does it's just a test message that you can ignore ... helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.avatarbodycollision.org