Re: [-empyre-] Mediated matters and design abjections

2014-10-02 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- thanks for your very interesting reply, Davide, to some of the comments. And your reply, if we had time here, would raise further questions, naturally, but I am hesitant to ask them as I feel that somehow the monthly debate has not

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated matters and design abjections

2014-10-02 Thread Adam Nocek
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi all, I just wanted to jump in here and encourage you all to continue discussing. I got the green light from Renate since the new month at -empyre- won't begin until Sunday. There are a couple things that strike me here about the

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated matters and design abjections

2014-10-02 Thread etienne turpin
--empyre- soft-skinned space--It has been quite exciting to read the exchanges and I am now quite curious about this turn in the conversation. I apologize that my previous reply was lost in transit before I left the US. Meanwhile, I spent the last two days at the

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated matters and design abjections

2014-09-30 Thread Davide Panagia
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Yes Johannes - lots of time for conversation would be ideal! I’ve been dealing with other (family) matters entirely over the past few days and have only now been able to catch up. So to answer some of your astute questions, let me begin

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated matters and design abjections

2014-09-29 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear all from or along dataveillance zombification (subjectless datapolitik) to what Ross today posted as his envisioning of the total destructive urbanization of the planet ... the nature of this form of power is one of controlling

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated Matters and design abjections

2014-09-27 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear all thanks Adam for going further with your argument drawing attention to what you call eco-technologies within spatial-political order predicated on limitless expansion, and you seem to include life – and not the cosmos of the

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated Matters and design abjections

2014-09-25 Thread Davide Panagia
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hello all - and sorry for the delayed response. I’m thrilled to be participating in this. And by means of participating, I wanted to circulate some reflections I’ve been working on re: what I’m calling ‘datapolitik’ - so here goes: To

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated Matters and design abjections

2014-09-23 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear all realizing the discussion is invited to move on (by Adam's post today), I still hope Oron will follow up his initial postings and perhaps expand on the notions of regenerative biology and designing life that he brought here.

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated Matters and design abjections

2014-09-23 Thread Adam Nocek
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi all, Thanks for forcing me to clarify, Johannes. I mentioned last week's discussion for two reasons, I suppose. On the one hand, I wanted to call attention to the fact that eco-technologies (which include the products of biotech,

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated Matters and design abjections

2014-09-23 Thread John Hopkins
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Thanks Johannes for that reference and your comments... Forms of Life as commodities The society of the spectacle undoubtedly complies with technology-based, post-industrial capitalism, its logic of production as well as the modern

Re: [-empyre-] Mediated Matters and design abjections

2014-09-22 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- hello all thanks, Oron, for quietly correcting my mistake of the rolled down/rolled up sleeves over the silent ear that cannot hear. And interestingly, both Adam and Oron, in their last posts, somewhat changed a reference I made, from