Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-09 Thread p≡p foundation
Hello Patrick et al. On 09.09.20 08:01, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > In Junior mode, there is no visible key management, and almost no > possibility to configure anything. You automatically get a key for all > your accounts, and encryption is done automatically whenever possible. > You don't need

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-09 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 09/09/2020 01:09, Mark wrote: > Thanks for the explanation of how pEp is connected to this. I do have a > few other questions that hopefully you will answer. > > 1) What does the pEp addon do in addition to or better than the built in > OpenPGP? In other words what are the advantages to

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-08 Thread Mark
Thanks for the explanation of how pEp is connected to this. I do have a few other questions that hopefully you will answer. 1) What does the pEp addon do in addition to or better than the built in OpenPGP? In other words what are the advantages to installing this add-on over the built in support?

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 07.09.2020 21:55, Phil Kane wrote: > On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > >> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail >> version that will work with TB 78. > > If that is the case, just what is pEp? What does it replace? The main idea of pEp is to

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Mark
True, but the first (and only) place I have heard of p≡p in regards to TB is here on this list actually with this same subject line, so I figured it was fair game. On 9/7/2020 4:51 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> My asking was a sort of a joke although still not sure what the purpose >> of p≡p

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Robert J. Hansen
My asking was a sort of a joke although still not sure what the purpose of p≡p based on the following text from the Thunderbird 78 blog: Given that Enigmail is not p≡p and doesn't work with TB78, perhaps you'd be best served asking at a mailing list that caters to one or the other?

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Mark
Exactly my question... On 9/7/2020 12:55 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > >> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail >> version that will work with TB 78. > If that is the case, just what is pEp? What does it replace? > > == Phil

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Onno Ekker
On 7 Sep 2020, at 17:54, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > >  >> >> So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued to >> work with TB 78? :) > > Won't and can't exist. Please stop asking. > > We've given the reasons many, many times. Originally, the Thunderbird user >

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Robert J. Hansen
So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued to work with TB 78? :) Won't and can't exist. Please stop asking. We've given the reasons many, many times. Originally, the Thunderbird user interface was done using a Mozilla technology called XPCOM. Mozilla has

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Am 7. September 2020 06:18:46 MESZ schrieb Mark : >So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued >to work with TB 78? :) > >Just curious as to what is p≡p is doing differently (better?) over the >default Open PGP implementation. We kept hearing they were doing this to

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-06 Thread Mark
So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued to work with TB 78? :) Just curious as to what is p≡p is doing differently (better?) over the default Open PGP implementation. We kept hearing they were doing this to make it more streamlined and not require additional

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-06 Thread p≡p foundation
On 06.09.20 19:39, Mark wrote: > Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has > built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this > addon for? This add-on is for automatic email encryption, creating a key pair for each account you configure and/or

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-06 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
The philosophy of pEp is different than the one of Thunderbird. It's perfectly legitimate that there's more than one solution for encryption. The Enigmail migrator in TB 78 is only for users of the classical mode of Enigmail. Users of pEp are offered to install pEp for Thunderbird. And this is

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-06 Thread Mark
Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this addon for? Thanks On 8/30/2020 12:33 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: >> FYI: >> >> The Thunderbird team had

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-09-04 Thread p≡p foundation
Chello folks On 31.08.20 22:15, Hernâni Marques (p≡p foundation) wrote: >> p≡p for Thunderbird, in turn, will become available by tomorrow, August >> 31st, and work--as Patrick already said--with TB68 and TB78. > > JFYI, reloaded: > > We postpone that a bit now, because there are some blockers

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-08-31 Thread p≡p foundation
On 30.08.20 13:14, Hernâni Marques (p≡p foundation) wrote: > Chello folks! Chello folks, again! > JFYI: > > p≡p for Thunderbird, in turn, will become available by tomorrow, August > 31st, and work--as Patrick already said--with TB68 and TB78. JFYI, reloaded: We postpone that a bit now,

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-08-30 Thread Kai Engert
On 30.08.20 16:49, Kai Engert wrote: Thunderbird 78.2.1 contains a last minute change, which causes the migration from Enigmail to fail. We're currently discussing how to best fix this. If you are still using Thunderbird 68 and Enigmail, please continue to wait with updating. A fix has been

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-08-30 Thread Kai Engert
On 30.08.20 09:33, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According to the release notes: Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier.

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-08-30 Thread p≡p foundation
Chello folks! On 30.08.20 09:33, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: >> FYI: >> >> The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by >> default in version 78.2.0 >> >> It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and >> testing

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-08-30 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: > FYI: > > The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by > default in version 78.2.0 > > It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and > testing by volunteers.  It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 Thunderbird

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-08-24 Thread Kai Engert
On 24.08.20 22:42, Phil Kane wrote: On 8/24/2020 12:39 PM, Kai Engert wrote: The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by default in version 78.2.0 It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and testing by volunteers.  It's expected to be enabled in

Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

2020-08-24 Thread Phil Kane
On 8/24/2020 12:39 PM, Kai Engert wrote: > > The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by > default in version 78.2.0 > > It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and > testing by volunteers.  It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 I'm confused. I'm