Re: [Enigmail] Key Management Owner Trust

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

On 16.09.15 22:27, Jacob L Anawalt wrote:

> Would you like a formal bug report?

After thinking about this for a time, I'd rather suggest to completely
remove the feature "Display untrusted keys".

It is misleading; it doesn't do what it promises: to show "trusted"
keys. Trusted keys are "valid" keys. Instead, the filter works on
"Ownertrust".

Varying ownertrust of a specific key doesn't make this key more or less
trustworthy. Instead, the ownertrust value of a specific key influences
the weight, by which certifications done by this key are regarded in
trust calculations for OTHER keys.

For me, suppressing the view of all keys I haven't assigned an
ownertrust value doesn't give any value.

I can't set an ownertrust on a key when I haven't met this person in
real life and judged how carefully his person does identity+key
fingerprint checks. This would ideally be done by judging how this
person did check MY identity and fingerprint. In this case, we would
have exchanged certifications on each others key.

What I'd regard as useful: A function which only displays keys I have
signed AND which have not set an ownertrust value. This would be a
reminder to do that.

Ludwig



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Re: [Enigmail] Key Management Owner Trust

[Muka Besi]

Thank for the info im still resuming and need da fast learn or can we do by
other ways
-- Mesej kiriman semula --
Daripada: "Ludwig Hügelschäfer" 
Tarikh: 19/09/2015 3:51 PG
Subjek: Re: [Enigmail] Key Management Owner Trust
Kepada: 
Sk:

> On 16.09.15 22:27, Jacob L Anawalt wrote:
>
> > Would you like a formal bug report?
>
> After thinking about this for a time, I'd rather suggest to completely
> remove the feature "Display untrusted keys".
>
> It is misleading; it doesn't do what it promises: to show "trusted"
> keys. Trusted keys are "valid" keys. Instead, the filter works on
> "Ownertrust".
>
> Varying ownertrust of a specific key doesn't make this key more or less
> trustworthy. Instead, the ownertrust value of a specific key influences
> the weight, by which certifications done by this key are regarded in
> trust calculations for OTHER keys.
>
> For me, suppressing the view of all keys I haven't assigned an
> ownertrust value doesn't give any value.
>
> I can't set an ownertrust on a key when I haven't met this person in
> real life and judged how carefully his person does identity+key
> fingerprint checks. This would ideally be done by judging how this
> person did check MY identity and fingerprint. In this case, we would
> have exchanged certifications on each others key.
>
> What I'd regard as useful: A function which only displays keys I have
> signed AND which have not set an ownertrust value. This would be a
> reminder to do that.
>
> Ludwig
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Key Management Owner Trust

[Ian Mann]

On 19/09/2015 6:57 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> After thinking about this for a time, I'd rather suggest to
>> > completely remove the feature "Display untrusted keys".
> After thinking about this and the poor-language issue in general, I've
> come to the following conclusions:

I am a new user, had Enigmail for about 12 months. I like the current system 
that is in place. It did take time to understand what it meant when those 
things were displayed.




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