Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 11:15:00 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:27:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > > > >> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > >> > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-25 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:27:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: > >> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler >> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gus

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:27:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler > > wrote: > >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> said: > >>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:1

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:03:31 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > [...] > >> Clear example with edc is to do chained animations, a series of > >> "after" mus

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-24 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> said: >>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > > [...] > >>> > We have been iterating over a MVC d

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-24 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: [...] >> > We have been iterating over a MVC design for more than a year now. I >> > think we are nearing a desi

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-24 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> On Apr 24, 2017 07:03, "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" >> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler >> wrote: >>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustav

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-24 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Apr 24, 2017 07:03, "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" > wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> said: > [...] >>> Clear example with edc is to do c

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-24 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Apr 24, 2017 07:03, "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: [...] >> Clear example with edc is to do chained animations, a series of >> "after" must be chained, but if yo

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-24 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: [...] >> Clear example with edc is to do chained animations, a series of >> "after" must be chained, but if you need to cancel that you can't call >> it a 'chain', you n

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 07:57:04 +0900 Christophe Sadoine said: > On 12 April 2017 at 06:15, Cedric BAIL wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > >> > >> We're incurring in the same error as we did fo

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:46:43 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > I'm commenting mostly on tickets, but two points I'd like to reply here: > > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > [...] > > Finally something that we are not addressing yet, but would I think > > make sense,

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-21 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Hi, Although the Eo API is not stable to outside, it's able to provide these properties... as elm external is generated and shipped by the same repo/build as the libelementary, I'd say you better invest time into creating an automatic generator. before you commit the generator/generated version,

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-21 Thread Viacheslav Reutskiy
On 04/13/17 08:35, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Viacheslav Reutskiy > wrote: >> On 04/13/17 00:23, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Viacheslav Reutskiy >>> wrote: On 04/11/17 01:12, Cedric BAIL wrote: > To address this, we have come up wi

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-12 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Viacheslav Reutskiy wrote: > On 04/13/17 00:23, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Viacheslav Reutskiy >> wrote: >>> On 04/11/17 01:12, Cedric BAIL wrote: To address this, we have come up with a serie of idea. The first thing is that

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-12 Thread Viacheslav Reutskiy
On 04/13/17 00:23, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Viacheslav Reutskiy > wrote: >> On 04/11/17 01:12, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>> To address this, we have come up with a serie of idea. The first thing >>> is that we should have a small set of defined style that have a >>> defined

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-12 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>> Finally something that we are not addressing yet, but would I think >>> make sense, is some way to describe simple l

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-12 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Viacheslav Reutskiy wrote: > On 04/11/17 01:12, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> To address this, we have come up with a serie of idea. The first thing >> is that we should have a small set of defined style that have a >> defined API (text part, message, signals). As each sty

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-12 Thread Viacheslav Reutskiy
Hello, On 04/11/17 01:12, Cedric BAIL wrote: > [...] > > To address this, we have come up with a serie of idea. The first thing > is that we should have a small set of defined style that have a > defined API (text part, message, signals). As each style is linked > with an elementary widget, the i

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-11 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Christophe Sadoine wrote: > On 12 April 2017 at 06:15, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>> We're incurring in the same error as we did for EDC, thin

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-11 Thread Simon Lees
On 04/12/2017 08:27 AM, Christophe Sadoine wrote: > On 12 April 2017 at 06:15, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>> >>> We're incurring in the same error as we did for EDC, thinking

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-11 Thread Christophe Sadoine
On 12 April 2017 at 06:15, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> >> We're incurring in the same error as we did for EDC, thinking much of >> our side instead of users... EDC started as som

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-11 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> Finally something that we are not addressing yet, but would I think >> make sense, is some way to describe simple layout (Like Android XML >> file or Microsoft XAML). With Eo

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
I'm commenting mostly on tickets, but two points I'd like to reply here: On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: [...] > Finally something that we are not addressing yet, but would I think > make sense, is some way to describe simple layout (Like Android XML > file or Microsoft XAML)