On 8/14/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> 1. devel "cvs" server + future web server (for downloads too of official
> tarballs etc.)
> 2. an anonymous "cvs" server and possibly second download mirror.
>
> so 2 systems really.
>
> i hear that svn is significantly less load fo
I will try to benchmark cvs, subversion and git today. If this doesn't take me
too long I might throw in Mercurial as well.
I'll set up a (insert one of the above SCMs) server on my desktop, with the
repository on a tmpfs, with the enlightenment repository, and I'll grab it 100
times with my la
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:41:34 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Exactly. Have you met anyone who uses SVN without Apache? Neither
> have I.
I'm using SVN without Apache. Your anti-SVN message is starting to
sound like it's coming from someone that hasn't actually run a SVN
ser
These changes where made because the e_config_dialog_new() function had
two extra parameters added to it. Please update your e17/apps/e, then
try compiling the modules again.
These patches are not needed.
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And what do you think about opening some mirrors ?
I know that raster enjoys knowing the numbers of people using the cvs,
etc...
Maybe, mirrors could give statistics and works togethers...
An other possibility is to make the official source's tree under cvs,
and make a git mirror, an other unde
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:41:09AM +0300, Eugen Minciu wrote:
> I will try to benchmark cvs, subversion and git today. If this doesn't take
> me too long I might throw in Mercurial as well.
Thanks! Be sure to post the results on the web somewhere, as I'm sure
other large projects may be intereste
Made a patch
1. able it to compile fine.
2. adding a modules icons. (actualy pointing to NULL, i need to finish
the libentrance_modules.so :))
icon is in : 48x48/mimetypes/package-x-generic.png
? Makefile
? Makefile.in
? aclocal.m4
? autom4te.cache
? compile
? config.guess
? config.h
?
Enlightenment CVS wrote:
>
> -/* FIXME: No unnecessary includes in exported headers. */
> +/* FIXME: No unnecessary includes in exported headers, when things settle
> down and we know what is unnecessary. */
> #include
> +#include
> #include
> #include
> #include
> @@ -35,7 +36,7 @@
>
Enlightenment CVS wrote:
> Enlightenment CVS committal
>
> Author : rhapsodhy
> Project : e17
> Module : proto
>
> Dir : e17/proto/entrance_edit_gui/src/widgets
>
>
> Modified Files:
> Entrance_Widgets.h Makefile.am ew_button.c ew_button.h
> ew_messagebox.c ew_messagebox.h
> Add
I was just about to say the same thing; the only thing I lack is a
suitably huge CVS repository to start with -- is there any way for me
to make a local mirror of E's whole repository? Google fails me the
specific procedure...
> tmpfs,
In real life disks will be involved, it'd probably be good t
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:55:50 +0100 Shish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I was just about to say the same thing; the only thing I lack is a
> suitably huge CVS repository to start with -- is there any way for me
> to make a local mirror of E's whole repository? Google fails me the
> specific procedur
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:55:50 +0100
Shish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In real life disks will be involved, it'd probably be good to take
> them into account. (I'd recommend doing both, to see what effect the
> > I'll grab it 100 times with my laptop
...
> I was thinking a more appropriate benchm
> I have a problem because I didn't get all the cvs (just e17) and I don't
> have the history information anymore (you can't keep it unless you use
> a mechanism like rsync).
It was mentioned earlier that the large amount of history information
was SVN's bottleneck when you check out a fresh copy
This little patch if for the e_config_dialog_new error.
LMA1980
*** e_mod_config.c Mon Aug 14 19:57:28 2006
--- /root/e_modules/bling/e_mod_config.cMon Aug 14 19:05:14 2006
*** _config_bling_module(E_Container *con, B
*** 44,50
v->advanced.create_widgets = _advan
Stéphane Bauland wrote:
> Made a patch
>
> 1. able it to compile fine.
> 2. adding a modules icons. (actualy pointing to NULL, i need to finish
> the libentrance_modules.so :))
nicey nicey nicey :)
I can't wait. Remember to grab me if you need anything from me. Way to
go roo[t|k]moo[t|k] ;)
On Tuesday, 15 August 2006, at 19:01:54 (+1000),
David Seikel wrote:
> Your anti-SVN message is starting to sound like it's coming from
> someone that hasn't actually run a SVN server recently.
I admin 2 and am a developer on a third. But by all means, please
feel free to continue assuming I mus
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:57:42 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> But by all means, please feel free to continue assuming I must not
> know what I'm talking about because my opinion differs with yours.
> It's much easier to write me off than to actually consider what I
> have to say
On Wednesday, 16 August 2006, at 04:09:54 (+1000),
David Seikel wrote:
> I'm not assuming anything, I am responding to what you are actually
> saying.
That was the first time you'd actually responded to *me*, and the only
other response you made indirectly to me was about the backend. I'll
refer
Hi,
I've spent a lot of time on this, but the results are ... shall we say ...
interesting. Before proceeding I have to remind you, again that I only used e17
without the version info, so you will probably want to try this out for
yourself.
The script I wrote checked the average time for a che
On Tuesday, 15 August 2006, at 22:12:47 (+0300),
Eugen Minciu wrote:
> CVS:
> - Average checkout time: 41.843s
> - CPU used: Constantly around 70% (something like 60-80%
> - MEM used: 2-3%
>
> SVN (svnserve):
> - Average checkout time: 27.921s
> - CPU used: 50-90%
> - Mem used: 2%
>
> SVN (http
On 8/15/06, Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd also be interested in comparisons of incremental checkouts. As I
> understand it, Git trees are complete repositories, not just
> checkouts. So a checkout-to-checkout comparison is unfair as Git is
> downloading a crapload more data
> > > > Not from me, sorry.. :( Feel free to use it or let it go
> > > > as you wish.
> > >
> > > who wants to have a go at this? :)
> > >
> >
> > You once asked me to take evas off your plate, and I told
> > you that I couldn't, and shouldn't, do that.
> > There are many things
well, I've done a bit of a research on SVN vs. CVS. The general census is that SVN was created to improve and replace CVS. I have heard its kinder to network resources and cpu usage and what not. The only thing is that it needs more disk space. Which honestly with the servers that we are looking at
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Eugen Minciu wrote:
> Now I know this is probably not going to sound right but how about a git
> repository?.
You may be interested in reading our[0] thread[1] about our search for
an SCM, with us deciding, in the end, on git. Mainly git is compare
On Tuesday, 15 August 2006, at 14:31:53 (-0700),
Inc wrote:
> well, I've done a bit of a research on SVN vs. CVS.
Research isn't what we need. Performance comparison data is.
> The general census is that SVN was created to improve and replace
> CVS.
Yes, we know that. Whether it actually achi
well, thats what this is KainX. I have pretty much secured a donated box. I have also been working with raster to find the right box for us to buy. the place that I was going to have host the mirror said that its time for us to go get our own box, so I let raster know that. I'll update you more on
Well I went outside for a while and it did me good. I have a new ideea for
testing out the scm servers. Yay ;)
Instead of trying to actually save the items on my hard disk I'll try to
redirect them to /dev/null. I allready saw how I can do this with cvs and I
hope I'll find a way to do it with
It seems to me that our SCM system feature requirements are extremely
limited. We hardly ever tag or branch, let alone do merging between
branches or anything resembling changeset management.
I think CVS amply provides the features we need. It's simple and robust.
It's far from perfect, but as Mi
On Tuesday, 15 August 2006, at 15:04:06 (-0700),
Inc wrote:
> well, thats what this is KainX. I have pretty much secured a donated
> box. I have also been working with raster to find the right box for
> us to buy. the place that I was going to have host the mirror said
> that its time for us to go
So, if anyone has any connections now would be the time to mention it. these are the specs as we are thinking so far.cpu: dual core (amd (opteron) or intel (xeon)) (in my opinion, amd is a better chip and cheaper in some aspects. you can flame me on this one)
ram: 3-4gb of quality ram..
Kim Woelders wrote:
>
>
>
> It seems to me that our SCM system feature requirements are extremely
> limited. We hardly ever tag or branch, let alone do merging between
> branches or anything resembling changeset management.
>
> I think CVS amply provides the features we need. It's simple and ro
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:07:13 +0200 Tilman Sauerbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> Eugen Minciu [2006-08-14 15:29]:
> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > It has come to my attention that yet again we are killing systems.
> > >
> > > yes - we are becoming a burden on yet more cvs se
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:07:12 +0300 Eugen Minciu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Well I went outside for a while and it did me good. I have a new ideea for
> testing out the scm servers. Yay ;)
>
> Instead of trying to actually save the items on my hard disk I'll try to
> redirect them to /dev/null
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:58:42 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Wednesday, 16 August 2006, at 04:09:54 (+1000),
> David Seikel wrote:
>
> > I'm not assuming anything, I am responding to what you are actually
> > saying.
>
> That was the first time you'd actually responded t
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:55:50 +0100 Shish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> I was just about to say the same thing; the only thing I lack is a
> suitably huge CVS repository to start with -- is there any way for me
> to make a local mirror of E's whole repository? Google fails me the
> specific proced
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:10:02 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:55:50 +0100 Shish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I was just about to say the same thing; the only thing I lack is a
> > suitably huge CVS repository to start with -- is there any way for me
>
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:34:57 -0400 Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Kim Woelders wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems to me that our SCM system feature requirements are extremely
> > limited. We hardly ever tag or branch, let alone do merging between
> > branches or anything resembling c
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:08:18 +0200 Kim Woelders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> It seems to me that our SCM system feature requirements are extremely
> limited. We hardly ever tag or branch, let alone do merging between
> branches or anything resembling changeset management.
>
> I think CVS amp
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:11:57 +0300 Eugen Minciu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:55:50 +0100
> Shish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In real life disks will be involved, it'd probably be good to take
> > them into account. (I'd recommend doing both, to see what effect the
>
"Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)" wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:34:57 -0400 Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > Kim Woelders wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems to me that our SCM system feature requirements are extremely
> > > limited. We hardly ever tag or branch, let a
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:07:16 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> actually - i think we need to know how this works WITH data on disk - why?
> some
> scm's may invoke much more disk IO than others and thus bottleneck at the disk
> earlier than others. we need to kno
Now I wonder what that 'Attatch' button does? ...
Sorry bout that.
Eugen.
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You can always ask some help on git@vger.kernel.org.Personally I have been following the development of git from a technical point of view out of interest, but at the moment I do not have a linux box unfortunately so I have not been able to play with it. It also has a tool (gitk) that visualizes me
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