Re: [E-devel] DirectFB, Intel GDL, Overlays and more

2008-02-25 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll have to work with an Intel consumer electronics soon (CE2110, > [1]) so I started to investigate its capabilities and found that it > provides video overlays optimized for media playbacks, so you can > p

Re: [E-devel] DirectFB, Intel GDL, Overlays and more

2008-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gustavo wrote: > Now to Evas part: we have an outdated DirectFB which AFAIK nobody > is using or willing to maintain and we (more specifically Cedric) > have SDL almost integrated. The directfb engine was initially written a long time ago and was never kept up with as much as oth

Re: [E-devel] DirectFB, Intel GDL, Overlays and more

2008-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1. An engine that can render to such a native surface buffer (rather >than using the software argb buffer engine). > 2. Implement evas image 'native surfaces' for the kinds of buffer > surfaces you use in (1) above. I should add that (2) isn't really needed for most uses, it'd jus

Re: [E-devel] [RFC] Edje improvement

2008-02-25 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - call _edje_calc only from a render_pre. > > I should add though that in this particular case, there could > be potential 'side effects' in event handling.. because, some changes > of state that could be a

[E-devel] Nightly build log for E17 on 2008-02-25 07:10:43 -0800

2008-02-25 Thread Nightly build system
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-02-25 07:10:43 -0800 Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs Packages that failed to build: ecore_li http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/ecore_li.log edje_editor http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/edj

Re: [E-devel] [RFC] Edje improvement

2008-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > There are a couple of other smart class functions that would > > also be useful with smart objects, in particular min/max_size_get > > functions, and add similar functions to the evas api so that one > > can query an evas object's min/max size. > > I already though about that, and perhap

[E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Vincent Torri
Hey, Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that raster has contacted them to participate in the previous SoC and they refused. But, now that some companies are using the efl, maybe one should ask them again, so that students can work on the projects these companies are wo

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Vincent Torri wrote: > Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that raster has > contacted them to participate in the previous SoC and they refused. > > But, now that some companies are using the efl, maybe one should ask them > again, so that students can

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Sthithaprajna Garapaty
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that raster has > > contacted them to participate in the previous SoC and they refused. > > > > But, now t

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > > > Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that rast

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 15:04:05 (-0300), > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> I'd say evas filters, that includes rotation but also shear, blur, >> perspective, ... >> >> Another idea is new backends, like DirectFB ;-), Cairo, Clutter (?),

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 19:14:31 (+0100), Vincent Torri wrote: > about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the > trac main page ? My point is that I think suggestions might be jumping the gun a bit, unless the sheer volume of suggestions might help reverse our previo

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 15:04:05 (-0300), Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > I'd say evas filters, that includes rotation but also shear, blur, > perspective, ... > > Another idea is new backends, like DirectFB ;-), Cairo, Clutter (?), > OpenGL/ES, OpenVG. > > Yet another idea is to help

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread dan sinclair
Vincent Torri wrote: > about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the trac > main page ? I think wiki.enlightenment.org would make more sense then trac. dan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsof

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, given that we've been shot down every year so far, I think > the key question for us to address here is: How do we avoid getting > shot down again? > > Once we know we're eligible, I think there's more t

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Виктор Кожухаров
Judging by the participants from previous years, I think we are quite eligible from a project design point of view. IMHO, we should ask raster, since he was in contact with the google guys before, for specifics on why we were denied. Though, having solid proposals is certainly a must. В 12:41 -06

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
After some discussion on IRC: - Going with EFL might be better. As Nathan said "it's far more original in that space than in the window manager space." - Someone need to stand as the "SoC guy". He's not the one that would have to do everything, but would be responsible to peek other people a

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Here is an example of an organizations Ideas page that might help get things rolling: http://www.x.org/wiki/SummerOfCodeIdeas On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some discussion on IRC: > >- Going with EFL might be better. As Nathan sai

[E-devel] EFL and Webkit

2008-02-25 Thread raoul
Hi there, I think there is a great stuff missing in efls, it's a web rendering engine. The main purpose would be to have a full-efl based web browser. But also have some web rendering inside Evas/Edje based apps. This could really be awsome. I started to search how to have such capability and t

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:21:15 +0200 Виктор Кожухаров <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Judging by the participants from previous years, I think we are quite > eligible from a project design point of view. IMHO, we should ask > raster, since he was in contact with the google guys before, for > specific

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:23:06 -0500 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Vincent Torri wrote: > > about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the trac > > main page ? > > I think wiki.enlightenment.org would make more sense then trac. better than in the mailing list :)

[E-devel] Support for prefix in modules

2008-02-25 Thread Tommy[D]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello together, i had 2 parallel installations of e on my pc (one in /usr=stable and one in /usr/local=for testing). Now i wanted to compile some modules for the first one but no matter what prefix or other options i set, it was going into /usr/lo

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 12:41:37 (-0600), Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > I think the key thing will be to come in with some strong proposals. > In previous years I don't think we had anything concrete when the > deadline came. If folks think that's the best approach, then by all means, let's g

[E-devel] Edje Edit patch ready

2008-02-25 Thread Dave
Hi list ! As you can see I have worked hard to the editor and to the edje patch in the last weeks... Now I think that the patch is ready to be committed, and maybe the editor can be moved out of proto :) The editor now is really complete, no more 'not yet implemented msg' around and no more 'bi

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread dan sinclair
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > better than in the mailing list :) though trac is also a wiki... :) but as > such > the trac stuff is for more of an "official todo list". SoC stuff is right now > just banter :) > Is this were I resist the urge to mention that having two wiki's seems s

Re: [E-devel] EFL and Webkit

2008-02-25 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:09 PM, raoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > I think there is a great stuff missing in efls, it's a web rendering engine. > The main purpose would be to have a full-efl based web browser. But also have > some web rendering inside Evas/Edje based apps. This co

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i have no interest in trying to change their opinion. in the end i think they > see e as a wm - some bizarre corner-case wm that no one cares about anymore > as > everyone uses gnome or kde, and since

Re: [E-devel] Edje Edit patch ready

2008-02-25 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi list ! > As you can see I have worked hard to the editor and to the edje patch in > the last weeks... > Now I think that the patch is ready to be committed, and maybe the > editor can be moved out of proto :) > > The editor

Re: [E-devel] Support for prefix in modules

2008-02-25 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Tommy[D] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hello together, > > i had 2 parallel installations of e on my pc (one in /usr=stable and one in > /usr/local=for testing). > Now i wanted to compile some modules for the

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Ravenlock
On 02/25/2008 19:45, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 12:41:37 (-0600), > Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > >> I think the key thing will be to come in with some strong proposals. >> In previous years I don't think we had anything concrete when the >> deadline came. > > If folks

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:51:40 -0600 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > i have no interest in trying to change their opinion. in the end i think > > they see e as a wm - some bizarre

Re: [E-devel] EFL and Webkit

2008-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> As for implementation details, smart object is not the best option, > actually using Evas as WebKit backend is not the best option around. > ... > ... > So the best option is to draw to some buffer and use this as image > data, then take care of event passing to this webkit engine. Using > ...

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> there were no specifics on why we were denied beyond a vague > "we don't think you are a worthy/valid/interesting open source > project". That would be their right to decide of course, and a natural view for them since e has so-far shown little interest in web related 'technologies' whe

Re: [E-devel] Support for prefix in modules

2008-02-25 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld
Tommy[D] wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hello together, > > i had 2 parallel installations of e on my pc (one in /usr=stable and one in > /usr/local=for testing). > Now i wanted to compile some modules for the first one but no matter what > prefix or other option

Re: [E-devel] Edje Edit patch ready

2008-02-25 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
First I want to say thanks - the editor is just awsome! I think it can/will make the life much easier in future. I also like your code, it's easy for me as beginner to read and learn. On 2/26/08, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi list ! > As you can see I have worked hard to the editor and t