Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread Vincent Torri
>> As far as the svg loading: We've already mentioned using >> librsvg for that - I can give it a try and see how well it can >> be made to work if no one else wants to do so.. > > I don't think anyone would be happy to see Evas depending on GTK/GDK > etc. Like Raster said, Evas already doe

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread Vincent Torri
>> XPM is not hard - loader is in imlbi2 - can be snarfed in. >> svg - well - a bigger issue - but i think we can avoid it for >> now and just display "default" icons in place. as long the the >> "icon finder" routine will return null when no icon can be >> found given the params - the code can fa

Re: [E-devel] e: Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On 8/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahhh... I see. Ok, I'm convinced, thanks.. and well done :) > > Well, the xpm loader is ready.. I see a few other imlib2 > loaders that may be desirable (eg. an xcf one), if anyone would like > to have any others ported no

Re: [E-devel] e: Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:52:18 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the xpm loader is ready.. I see a few other imlib2 Cool, thanks. I'm looking forward to seeing that committed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blake writes: > > As far as the svg loading: We've already mentioned using > > librsvg for that - I can give it a try and see how well it can > > be made to work if no one else wants to do so.. > > I don't think anyone would be happy to see Evas depending on > GTK/GDK etc. Like Raste

[E-devel] e: Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David writes: > The user is the logged in user that will be seeing the icons. > There is a default size of 48x48 if the user doesn't use some > method of selecting other sizes. There is an fdo specified > algorithm for searching amongst any installed icon sets for an > icon that closely

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:48:45 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David writes: > > > In the context of this thread, the freedesktop.org specs say that > > the user specifies the size in pixels of icons that they want, and > > for svg's, that means we need to render to th

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David writes: > In the context of this thread, the freedesktop.org specs say that > the user specifies the size in pixels of icons that they want, and > for svg's, that means we need to render to that particular size. > There is a default icon size of 48x48 if the user didn't specify > a

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Carsten writes: > >> XPM is not hard - loader is in imlbi2 - can be snarfed in. >> svg - well - a bigger issue - but i think we can avoid it for >> now and just display "default" icons in place. as long the the >> "icon finder" rout

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:53:28 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Carsten writes: > > > XPM is not hard - loader is in imlbi2 - can be snarfed in. > > svg - well - a bigger issue - but i think we can avoid it for > > now and just display "default" icons in place. as long

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carsten writes: > XPM is not hard - loader is in imlbi2 - can be snarfed in. > svg - well - a bigger issue - but i think we can avoid it for > now and just display "default" icons in place. as long the the > "icon finder" routine will return null when no icon can be > found given the para

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:17:15 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:45:31 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:01:33 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fr

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:45:31 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:01:33 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:07:56 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:01:33 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:07:56 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:13:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > i can

Re: [E-devel] Notification area

2006-08-10 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:51:24 -0400 Dusik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:23:38 -0400 "Carl Bolduc" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >>> Is there a plan on supporting this kinda notifications? >

[E-devel] Q about mail module

2006-08-10 Thread Aleksej Struk
Hey all, I think, that this question mainly have to be adressed to devilhorns. Basically I have the problem with mail module. My config is the following: Mailbox: Maildir Name: local New Mail Path: /home/me/Maildir/new/ Current Mail Path: /home/me/Maildir/cur/ So I want to have sound playing wh

Re: [E-devel] [Entrance] SELinux integration

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:37:52 -0500 (CDT) "Ibukun Olumuyiwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > *Suddenly appears out of nowhere* > > NO. > > No blatant copying of gdm code, even with permission. Study the algorithm > and reimplement it, but don't copy blocks of code from GDM. Everything > needs to b

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:07:56 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:13:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > well i lean to the "put it in e and put another copy in entrance" for > > now - not another ecore_desktop thing - b

Re: [E-devel] Notification area

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:51:24 -0400 Dusik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:23:38 -0400 "Carl Bolduc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > Is there a plan on supporting this kinda notifications? > > > > > > Thank you for the superb desktop, > > > > not for e17 - maybe e

Re: [E-devel] Evas 'shaped' gradient type

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:45:51 +0200 Sebastian Dransfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:15:30 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > >> Attached is a tgz file containing a patch for a new evas > >> gradient ty

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread David Seikel
BTW, raster is pulling my strings behind the scenes to get me to do this changeover, so I'll be coping all the flak coz people in here tend to ignore discussion until code is committed, then bitch about it afterwards. So I just want you all to know that I will be letting .eaps and .desktop files c

Re: [E-devel] Evas 'shaped' gradient type

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > If at a later point in time evas does get loadable > > obj types, one would only need to deprecate the use of the > > 'type_params' string to deal with type-specific data, and > > instead use whatever type-specific funcs would be available. > > I'll second the desire for loadable object t

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:13:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well i lean to the "put it in e and put another copy in entrance" for > now - not another ecore_desktop thing - but i do see a point of it > being sharable. > > i can be tipped to ecore given some arg

[E-devel] _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set

2006-08-10 Thread Kim Woelders
Hi, _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set has IMO some ICCCM non-compliance and other evilness. You can see the effects of this e.g. when toggling fullscreen state in entice (key f) in many WM's, including e17 and e16. 1) _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set starts with ecore_x_window_hide. This is a window with

Re: [E-devel] SDL Engine

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cedric writes: > Hi, > > I started a SDL engine for evas and would like some feedback. > First it's working and you will see something with evas_sdl_test. > But I have already a few questions. > > > Well, I don't know anything about SDL, or how useful that might be,

Re: [E-devel] Evas 'shaped' gradient type

2006-08-10 Thread brian . mattern
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 05:59:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If at a later point in time evas does get loadable > obj types, one would only need to deprecate the use of the > 'type_params' string to deal with type-specific data, and > instead use whatever type-specific funcs would be

Re: [E-devel] Evas 'shaped' gradient type

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > This type, unlike the others, does not use a described > > geometry, but instead uses an image to specify that. > > The type has as its params a string of the form: > > > > "file:key:mode" > > > > Each of file, key, and mode must be present. > > personally i would have made this

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > actually - cairo is unlikely to become a main engine - just > > > because it's extra work with no gain. we use what cairo uses > > > directly ourselves already. this gives us better control and > > > better performance. :) > > > > One never knows.. Always keep an open mind! :) >

Re: [E-devel] Notification area

2006-08-10 Thread brian . mattern
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:51:24AM -0400, Dusik wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:23:38 -0400 "Carl Bolduc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > Is there a plan on supporting this kinda notifications? > > > > > > Thank you for the superb desktop, > > > > not for e17 - maybe e18. :) then agai

[E-devel] SDL Engine

2006-08-10 Thread Cedric BAIL
Hi, I started a SDL engine for evas and would like some feedback. First it's working and you will see something with evas_sdl_test. But I have already a few questions. I wanted to directly manipulate SDL_Surface inside RGBA_Image, but this means that for the destruction, I nee

Re: [E-devel] Notification area

2006-08-10 Thread Dusik
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:23:38 -0400 "Carl Bolduc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > Is there a plan on supporting this kinda notifications? > > > > Thank you for the superb desktop, > > not for e17 - maybe e18. :) then again - patches accepted (if they are good) > :) > Can't that be handled ent

Re: [E-devel] Entrance Config - YAET

2006-08-10 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
Yes, unfortunately we need a widget toolkit. I'm largely letting Essien make the call on this one, but we might even go with both. This is the kind of situation I dreaded when ETK first started up, and unfortunately some people will consider a choice of one toolkit over another as some sort of broa

Re: [E-devel] [Entrance] SELinux integration

2006-08-10 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
*Suddenly appears out of nowhere* NO. No blatant copying of gdm code, even with permission. Study the algorithm and reimplement it, but don't copy blocks of code from GDM. Everything needs to be written from scratch. That's always been the design philosophy from the beginning -- a lot of stuff in

Re: [E-devel] Evas 'shaped' gradient type

2006-08-10 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:15:30 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > >> Attached is a tgz file containing a patch for a new evas >> gradient type named "shaped". >> >> This type, unlike the others, does not use a described >> geometry

Re: [E-devel] Evas 'shaped' gradient type

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:15:30 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Attached is a tgz file containing a patch for a new evas > gradient type named "shaped". > > This type, unlike the others, does not use a described > geometry, but instead uses an image to specify that. >

Re: [E-devel] Notification area

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:23:38 -0400 "Carl Bolduc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi all, > > I read about systray support on Raster's blog... I agree that systray is > often ugly and mostly useless for managing applications that have a window. > But what about the apps that popup notifications, li

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:23:28 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > There are a few TODO items for E17 - > > "* fm2 .desktop parser needs to handle i18n > * use .desktop files and move eap editor to edit them etc. etc. > instead to fix > * if we want to do icons on the desktop - and as

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 03:18:41 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > David writes: > > > According to the fdo specs, the user is allowed to select an > > icon size and theme. The spec contains methods of looking > > through the search paths to determine what icon themes an

[E-devel] Notification area

2006-08-10 Thread Carl Bolduc
Hi all,I read about systray support on Raster's blog... I agree that systray is often ugly and mostly useless for managing applications that have a window. But what about the apps that popup notifications, like the update manager of Ubuntu, or apps such as network-manager that live only in the noti

Re: [E-devel] Wallpaper on Triple Head Setup

2006-08-10 Thread Alexander Griesser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Morten Nilsen wrote: > Alexander Griesser wrote: >> Is someone interested in adding this feature to desklock? e.g. being >> able to configure a per-screen wallpaper as you do in the wallpaper >> configuration itself? > > Would an option to use the des

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: engage handyande

2006-08-10 Thread Hannes Janetzek
Am Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:27:28 +1000 schrieb David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > window.c: In function `window_input_shape_rectangle_set': > window.c:49: error: `ShapeInput' undeclared (first use in this > function) window.c:49: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported > only once window.c:

Re: [E-devel] Wallpaper on Triple Head Setup

2006-08-10 Thread Morten Nilsen
Alexander Griesser wrote: > Is someone interested in adding this feature to desklock? e.g. being > able to configure a per-screen wallpaper as you do in the wallpaper > configuration itself? Would an option to use the desktop wallpaper solve your problem? (I'm not offering to make it, just tossing

Re: [E-devel] [Entrance] SELinux integration

2006-08-10 Thread muzzle
On 8/10/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:15:26 +0200 Mivz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > Yes, I'll read it :) > > Here is the patch. I'm still working on the policy files. I will finish > > them when I'm graduated in a few weeks. > > The pat

Re: [E-devel] Strange maximize...

2006-08-10 Thread Anders Troback
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:41:30 + Aleksej Struk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:37:44AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:09:02 + Aleksej Struk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:05:03AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler