Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:57:52 +0200 Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com said: Lol, thanks. I think I didn't do nearly as much as other guys who aren't there as well. Anyhow, I like the idea of the EFL about. :P that's a totally different topic and frankly not something that should be solved by e. as i mentioned before - you'd need to either create a function in each lib to return such an authors list, or a way of runtime finding the install prefix and location OF an authors file and then install it. and as has been mentioned - how far down do you go? if all you do is use elementary - should you KNOW all the implicit efl libs it uses and list all of them and their authors too? it gets silly because you no longer have a nicely compartmentalized set of projects and their own installs, authors and what not. we're basically being asked to add a publicity api to all our libs to publicize authors and that is rare indeed in the software world and we do have higher priority things. -- Tom. On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.orgwrote: * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Tom. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:57:26 +0100 Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org said: * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. in that you are actually really wrong. e17 ie s. EFL is eina, eet, evas, edje etc. as such e has no clue WHO the authors of all the dependant libs are. there is no info on the system for that so we cant do such a dialog without hand-maintaining it and all its authors separately from the libs. should we put an about for libpng too and all its authors? and xorg and xlib? and libjpeg? and all the other libs e depends on? the list of people in the e17 about dialog are the people in the authors. it is installed and loaded/parsed and displayed. as such we have more important things to worry about that create ways to go find author lists of every library that may be used (even if they installed the files - we need to query every library where that file is installed at runtime - and no you cant compile it in). Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On 02/24/2011 04:34 PM, Marc Koschewski wrote: I just saw that 'tasn' is not mentioned in E17's About dialog. This is a huge fail, guys! SPANK SPANK SPANK to say it in E17-manner. Get his in there. ASAP. :) Cheers, Marc Well, it's his own fault if he doesn't add himself to AUTHORS :P dh -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
LOL, thanks. :P Though I really did never touch e17 itself, only EFL. raster: maybe we should think about including all of the AUTHORS of the dependencies as well. Cause honestly, they are a real part... -- Tom. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.orgwrote: I just saw that 'tasn' is not mentioned in E17's About dialog. This is a huge fail, guys! SPANK SPANK SPANK to say it in E17-manner. Get his in there. ASAP. :) Cheers, Marc -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Tom. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, Tom Hacohen wrote: LOL, thanks. :P Though I really did never touch e17 itself, only EFL. raster: maybe we should think about including all of the AUTHORS of the dependencies as well. Cause honestly, they are a real part... I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change Vincent -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. -- Tom. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, Tom Hacohen wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. about dialog is the same. So because one guy touched eina, his name should go in the e17 bout dialog ? i still do not agree Vincent -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: about dialog is the same. So because one guy touched eina, his name should go in the e17 bout dialog ? i still do not agree Yeah, OK, I actually agree with you. Maybe just include a reference to core EFL in the e about? i.e This software uses Eina, Evas, Edje, Ecore, Eeze ... (fill the rest here) for it's operation or something like that? -- Tom. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com писал(а) в своём письме Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:00:48 +0100: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: about dialog is the same. So because one guy touched eina, his name should go in the e17 bout dialog ? i still do not agree Yeah, OK, I actually agree with you. Maybe just include a reference to core EFL in the e about? i.e This software uses Eina, Evas, Edje, Ecore, Eeze ... (fill the rest here) for it's operation or something like that? Or add About EFL dialog. For example, KDE have About KDE About Qt -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, evadim wrote: Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com ÿÿ(ÿÿ) ÿÿ ÿÿ Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:00:48 +0100: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: about dialog is the same. So because one guy touched eina, his name should go in the e17 bout dialog ? i still do not agree Yeah, OK, I actually agree with you. Maybe just include a reference to core EFL in the e about? i.e This software uses Eina, Evas, Edje, Ecore, Eeze ... (fill the rest here) for it's operation or something like that? Or add About EFL dialog. For example, KDE have About KDE About Qt i like that Vincent-- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, evadim wrote: Or add About EFL dialog. For example, KDE have About KDE About Qt i like that Yeah, I also like that. It's a very good idea. -- Tom. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
* Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
2011/2/25 Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org: * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! Someone is very much in love around here... E17 is the Enlightenment Window Manager, which happens to be based on the rest of the EFL. The E17 About dialog displays the contents of the E17 AUTHORS' file, as a way to give credit to those directly involved in the development of the window manager. There are many others who worked hard in making all the libraries what they are now, and if one of them should have his/her name in the about dialog, why shouldn't all the others? -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, Marc Koschewski wrote: * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' sorry, but you are wrong. E17 is a shortcut for Enlightenment 0.17 or DR17. Using 'e' is also a shortcut. And it is the windows manager whatever the libraries on which it is built are used in it. With your point of view, why not mentioning the libpng guys, the dbus guys, the xorg guys, etc... ? Without them, there would have no e17 at all. Vincent - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:58:04 +0200 Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, evadim wrote: Or add About EFL dialog. For example, KDE have About KDE About Qt i like that Yeah, I also like that. It's a very good idea. Is someone who would be in both dialogs, I vote for that. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011, David Seikel wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:58:04 +0200 Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, evadim wrote: Or add About EFL dialog. For example, KDE have About KDE About Qt i like that Yeah, I also like that. It's a very good idea. Is you meant 'As' ? someone who would be in both dialogs, I vote for that. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:11 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:58:04 +0200 Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, evadim wrote: Or add About EFL dialog. For example, KDE have About KDE About Qt i like that Yeah, I also like that. It's a very good idea. Is someone who would be in both dialogs, I vote for that. I like the idea also. Patch welcome :-) -- Cedric BAIL -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be on the about dialog But just a point of order... The about dialog is parsed from the AUTHORS file... So can't have one without the other... Sent from my Cellular South HTC Desire - Reply message - From: Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:57 am Subject: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog To: Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com Cc: enlightenment-devel enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:15:37 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011, David Seikel wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:58:04 +0200 Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, evadim wrote: Or add About EFL dialog. For example, KDE have About KDE About Qt i like that Yeah, I also like that. It's a very good idea. Is you meant 'As' ? someone who would be in both dialogs, I vote for that. Um yes, I meant - As someone who would be in both dialogs, I vote for that. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
* unixti...@gmail.com unixti...@gmail.com [2011-02-25 11:19:49 -0600]: I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be on the about dialog But just a point of order... The about dialog is parsed from the AUTHORS file... So can't have one without the other... I guess that's the whole problem. Sent from my Cellular South HTC Desire - Reply message - From: Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:57 am Subject: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog To: Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com Cc: enlightenment-devel enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
* Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr [2011-02-25 18:05:56 +0100]: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, Marc Koschewski wrote: * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' sorry, but you are wrong. E17 is a shortcut for Enlightenment 0.17 or DR17. Using 'e' is also a shortcut. And it is the windows manager whatever the libraries on which it is built are used in it. With your point of view, why not mentioning the libpng guys, the dbus guys, the xorg guys, etc... ? Without them, there would have no e17 at all. Sure, but how far can your track this down? Ulrich Drepper would be mentioned in any dialog then. That's damn fuc... bullshit. What I just meant to say is: you guys could just honor the names of the guys who commit to _your_ svn repos in that damn dialog. It'd just be fair. EOD. Vincent - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Friday, 25 February 2011, at 18:33:10 (+0100), Marc Koschewski wrote: What I just meant to say is: you guys could just honor the names of the guys who commit to _your_ svn repos in that damn dialog. It'd just be fair. Okay, I just have to ask. Why do you care so much? What is the nature of your relationship with Tom? You care more than he does! Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ m...@kainx.org Linux Server/Cluster Admin, LBL.gov Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, And drinking largely sobers us again. -- Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
* Michael Jennings m...@kainx.org [2011-02-25 10:26:17 -0800]: On Friday, 25 February 2011, at 18:33:10 (+0100), Marc Koschewski wrote: What I just meant to say is: you guys could just honor the names of the guys who commit to _your_ svn repos in that damn dialog. It'd just be fair. Okay, I just have to ask. Why do you care so much? What is the nature of your relationship with Tom? You care more than he does! I don't know how you can come up with this. As as said earlier: a) there seem to be more people missing than just him, b) I just saw it when I read the list and Tom was the one who's commits recently helped me to get my E17 back working again. And I care not because of Tom. I just think that people who do effort to get this desktop to do what it does need to get the credits for it. And one thing I totally miss in this discussion is that the average Joe does _not_ read the AUTHORS file as he/she actually doesn't have it. All he/she has is the running binary and it sadly says nothing about many people who helped giving him the desktop of his/her choice. What's there not to understand? And to come to the you care mor than him thing: do you think Tom is going to yell Hell, yeah, I need to get in there, guys! Marc is right. I think it's just human to _not_ act upon this mails in his position. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ m...@kainx.org Linux Server/Cluster Admin, LBL.gov Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, And drinking largely sobers us again. -- Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
2011/2/25 Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org: * Michael Jennings m...@kainx.org [2011-02-25 10:26:17 -0800]: On Friday, 25 February 2011, at 18:33:10 (+0100), Marc Koschewski wrote: What I just meant to say is: you guys could just honor the names of the guys who commit to _your_ svn repos in that damn dialog. It'd just be fair. Okay, I just have to ask. Why do you care so much? What is the nature of your relationship with Tom? You care more than he does! I don't know how you can come up with this. As as said earlier: a) there seem to be more people missing than just him, b) I just saw it when I read the list and Tom was the one who's commits recently helped me to get my E17 back working again. And I care not because of Tom. I just think that people who do effort to get this desktop to do what it does need to get the credits for it. And one thing I totally miss in this discussion is that the average Joe does _not_ read the AUTHORS file as he/she actually doesn't have it. All he/she has is the running binary and it sadly says nothing about many people who helped giving him the desktop of his/her choice. What's there not to understand? And to come to the you care mor than him thing: do you think Tom is going to yell Hell, yeah, I need to get in there, guys! Marc is right. I think it's just human to _not_ act upon this mails in his position. The reason why he's not in E17's About dialog was explained, a proposal to have another dialog to show the authors and contributors for the rest of the EFL was made, almost everyone liked it and... you insisted on putting someone's name where it doesn't belong. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ m...@kainx.org Linux Server/Cluster Admin, LBL.gov Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, And drinking largely sobers us again. -- Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
Lol, thanks. I think I didn't do nearly as much as other guys who aren't there as well. Anyhow, I like the idea of the EFL about. :P -- Tom. On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.orgwrote: * Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com [2011-02-25 12:11:43 +0200]: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote: I do not agree. AUTHORS is a way to know who really touched a program. that could be necessary to have the name of the contributors in case of a licence change I was talking about the about dialog, not the AUTHORS file. I think, what Tom did and will probably do for E17 as a whole justifies the mentioning of his name in the dialog. I don't talk about the AUTHORS file itself. Sure thing, only people hacking 'e' should go in e's AUTHORS file. But in order to have E17 do what it does, Tom's work is fundamental. Thus I vote for really adding him (and probably some others) to the dialog. E17 is not 'e' - E17 is 'e', 'eina', 'evas', ... And the dialog is about E17. Just my 2 cents... Marc P.S: Come on guys ... he does a great job! -- Tom. -- Marc Koschewski -- Tom. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Michael Jennings m...@kainx.org wrote: Okay, I just have to ask. Why do you care so much? What is the nature of your relationship with Tom? You care more than he does! He's on my payroll. -- Tom. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:01:59 +0200 Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Michael Jennings m...@kainx.org wrote: Okay, I just have to ask. Why do you care so much? What is the nature of your relationship with Tom? You care more than he does! He's on my payroll. fire him imo, this thread should have ended 12 hours ago -- Mike Blumenkrantz Zentific: NULL pointer dereferences now 50% off! -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
I just saw that 'tasn' is not mentioned in E17's About dialog. This is a huge fail, guys! SPANK SPANK SPANK to say it in E17-manner. Get his in there. ASAP. :) Cheers, Marc -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
* Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org [2011-02-24 22:34:32 +0100]: I just saw that 'tasn' is not mentioned in E17's About dialog. This is a huge fail, guys! SPANK SPANK SPANK to say it in E17-manner. Get his in there. ASAP. ... his 'name'. I meant to say 'name'. Off-by-one brain vs. hands. Cheers! :) Cheers, Marc -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Crazy ... E17 About dialog
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:38:07 +0100 Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org said: * Marc Koschewski m...@osknowledge.org [2011-02-24 22:34:32 +0100]: I just saw that 'tasn' is not mentioned in E17's About dialog. This is a huge fail, guys! SPANK SPANK SPANK to say it in E17-manner. Get his in there. ASAP. ... his 'name'. I meant to say 'name'. Off-by-one brain vs. hands. Cheers! that's because he has never touched enlightenment or written any code for it, modified it or added his name to AUTHORS. :) Cheers, Marc -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Marc Koschewski -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
