Re: [e-users] let enlightenment.sf.net mirror www.enlightenment.org ?

2004-08-07 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
On Fri 06 Aug 2004, Justin Rocha (Xenith) wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 07:47:59PM +0800, in the study, with the lead pipe, Zhang 
 Weiwu wrote:
  Hello. If you read the message and wonder why some words are 
  reverse-ordered, that is to avoid keyword-spiders check this email:(
  
  This is a request specially for Chinese people. Ever since last two year 
  (maybe even earlier) www.enlightenment.org went to the China llawerif 
  blacklist (not confirmed but most people think so, you cannot reach the 
  site everywhere in China, at least not in Beijing, Shanghai and Xiamen). 
  I am in China and I could not reach the site anymore like most other 
  Chinese people.
  
  I believe there are lots other Chinese people have the difficulty but 
  didn't complain.
  
  However enlightenment.sf.net is not banned yet, could it be a feasible 
  suggestion to let enlightenment.sf.net mirror www.enlightenment.org 
  instead of just redirect to it? Perhaps just setup a cron job would do 
  it? (Perhaps sf.net has cron job support:)
  
  I know it's possible this site go to be banned too. But I think perhaps 
  www.enlightenment.org is banned only because of it's name, and the 
  network ecilop people didn't read the site throughly to understand it's 
  an opensource software. But if it is enlightenment.sf.net, everyone know 
  it's on hosted environment and not lacitilop stuff.
 Actually, enlightenment.sf.net and enlightenment.org are exactly the same. You
 get the same effect if you just go to http://enlightenment.org/. The index file
 just redirects you to /pages/main.html
 
 The simple way around it is to use http://enlightenment.sf.net/pages/main.html
 instead. That should let you access the site just fine. Of course, if you find
 any problems, just email the list and we can all yell at ben. :)
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I've fixed page redirection so the URL is only automatically changed if
you specify www.enlightenment.org. This should work well enough for
everyone.

Cheers,

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[e-users] pager and config

2004-08-07 Thread BARRE Arnaud
Hello,

I d'like to know if it's possible to have more possibilities for 
pager.
In fact, i d'like to group normal desk in one pager and not one pager 
for one desk. I don't want to use virtual desks because i use ALT-Fx 
to move into my desk. Is it possible ?

thanks a lot.

Arnaud


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[e-users] can't find esmart_file_dialog.edc/eet and iconbar.edc

2004-08-07 Thread Holger Hanrath
Hello group,

Maybe i am blind but i can't find esmart_file_dialog.edc/eet and
iconbar.edc in cvs.

Thanks Holger



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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-08-07 Thread Kai Edinger
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 09:55:27AM +0200, Anselme wrote:
 hi Everybody,
 
 
 
 I use enligthenment 0.16.6 on a FreeBSD 4.10 and I realy enjoy it :)
 
 My problem is when I start nautilus ... I'd like use this graphical file
 manager but when I start it my descktop background change and I got the
 gnome one ... :( 

start nautilus with parameter --no-desktop like this:

nautilus --no-desktop --sm-disable file:///home/edinger 

this works fine on my system ( enlightenment 0i.16.7 pre5 on SuSE 9.1)

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[e-users] Evidence Evas

2004-08-07 Thread John Halbert
hi,

I'm having trouble with compiling Evidence;  I'm using DR16 (0.16.6) and when I'm
compile Evidence I'm getting the error:

In file included from evidence.c:31:
thumbnail.h:4:20: Evas.h: No such file or directory
In file included from evidence.c:31:
thumbnail.h:20: error: parse error before Evas_Object
thumbnail.h:20: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
thumbnail.h:33: error: parse error before '}' token
thumbnail.h:33: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `Evidence_Thumb'
thumbnail.h:33: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
thumbnail.h:50: error: parse error before '*' token
thumbnail.h:50: error: parse error before Evas
thumbnail.h:50: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `thumbnail_for'
thumbnail.h:50: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
evidence.c:1059:4: warning: #warning compiling without a canvas
make[3]: *** [evidence.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/john/temp/compile/evidence-0.9.7/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/john/temp/compile/evidence-0.9.7/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/temp/compile/evidence-0.9.7'
make: *** [all] Error 2


I was thinking that it was due to the fact that I didn't have evas.  When I went
to the freshmeat page and found the evas page it just linked me to a download of
enlightenment itself, so I guess it's already included in the wm?  Also, at the
end of configure it tells me that for thumbnail view it will use evas, so I
assume it's detected this on my system...  any suggestions?

thanks
john


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[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Asparagus Gets its first press... and an idea.

2004-08-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 10:02 am, Peter Lundqvist wrote:
 Anyway - what I'm upset about is not who did what. It's the bad attitude.
 You don't have to badmouth anyone just because you disagree.
 A simple Obviously she's wrong; here is why is more than sufficient.

i wasnt bad mouthing her because i disagree with her, hell i read her comments 
after i posted mine her

i bad mouth her because, in my opinion of course, ive very seldom seen her 
produce quality works
-mike


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[e-users] Missing feature: don't resolve shortcuts

2004-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear Englightened

I'm trying to use E as my window manager but I can't resolve 1 simple
question: how to tell E to don't resolve shortcuts on local display for
specific window. Such feature is necessary for instance when you use VNC
client, so you want all shortcuts (as Alt-TAB and others) to be sent to
the remote host and not engaged locally. I kinda get desired behavior
if I set window properly to BORDERLESS and then put VNC in fullscreen
mode- then shortcuts for rescaling (Alt-Click) pass through but Alt-TAB
is still executed locally...

So is there a right way just to say E to turn on such feature for some
group of windows? in Wmaker it is 'do not bind shortcuts' in window's
menu

Thank in advance for any hints

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Re: [e-users] nautilus2

2004-08-07 Thread Kai Edinger
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:55:27 +0200 Anselme [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

  

hi Everybody,



I use enligthenment 0.16.6 on a FreeBSD 4.10 and I realy enjoy it :)

My problem is when I start nautilus ... I'd like use this graphical file
manager but when I start it my descktop background change and I got the
gnome one ... :( 



dont use nautilus. it goes and changes it. nautilus is part of gnome and thus
does everything the gnome way.

  

Sorry for this offtopic question, but do you have a littel tip, what to
use in place of it?

Kai
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Re: [e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-08-07 Thread Oded Arbel
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 01:23, Michael Jennings wrote:

 You're arguing that SRPM's are better because they 1 step instead of
 3.  That's splitting the hair mighty thin.  Anyone who knows how to
 invoke rpmbuild --rebuild knows it because someone told them.  Thus,
 that person is equally able to cut and paste the command I gave.

I think most reasonable persons would agree that learning to rebuild
SRPMs is easeir then learning to checkout from CVS. I'm not talking
about copy and paste, but about understanding what is going on. simply a
more limited skillset is required. but your argument is valid and I
guess its personal perspective and I will say nothing more :-)
 
 Nobody's slinging mud.  In my experience, Mandrake is too
 bleeding-edge for their own good.  If it works for you, fine, but you
 have to acknowledge that problems may be caused by your toolset/distro
 choice.

The same as /you/ have to acknowledge that my problems may be caused by
your toolset ;-)

 Nope.  I thought I already explained this. Instead, requiring
 /usr/include/gif_lib.h and /usr/lib/libgif.so accomplishes the same
 thing (given a good dep solver) without being distro-specific.

Ok. can you do that then, please ?

 If you refuse to use Mezzanine, you can always add something like this
 to your script before calling rpmbuild:
 
 perl -pi.bak -e 's/\#BuildSuggests/BuildRequires/g' *.spec

That would be useful. thanks for the suggestion. I noticed that several
spec files do not have the BuildSuggests entry at all or it does not
contain the entries that I think it should have. if I test and report on
discrepancies between whats written and what is actually required, will
you take a look at adding more information to the BuildSuggests entry ?
 
  I thought that I can make a dist ball just by running the
  auto-tools, and packaging the CVS directory after that. can you
  please explain what's wrong with this approach?
 
 CVS directories and other junk end up in the tarball.

Not if I do an export. in any case - I always assumed that the
tarball/source RPM is a clean snapshot of the source, a.k.a. CVS
snapshot/branch.

   Also the
 tarball's top-level path does not include the version number, which is
 a big no-no in most cases.

I dont understand why, but I'm willing to accept it. I'm currently
handling that in the script I'm writing.

  I think that packaging
  the CVS dir as it comes out of the CVS and building off that is the
  ultimate goal and I sometimes do that.
 
 That would be unfortunate.  You're better off invoking autogen like
 this:
 
 make maintainer-clean
 ./autogen.sh --enable-maintainer-mode
 make dist

If I understand correctly. maintainer-mode is evil (or so it is
written). but I see your point. thanks.

 I am in frequent contact with Jeff Johnson (RPM lead developer) and
 have yet to hear of any such standard, but perhaps I just missed it.

Not standard. more of trying not to break things which other people
did :-)

 Since you seem rather opposed to any build tools other than what
 you're already used to, 

Actually - what everyone has. if you want to have your software to built
out of CVS, then you need to accept that most people will have only the
standard tools that came with their distro (and then only those that
sits nicely under the label you need this to develop and build
software. if you think that everyone that builds out of CVS should have
Mezzanine, then please note so in some sort of documentation (and I
don't consider the mail archives of the user list to be
documentation).

Thanks for all the info. I'll take a look at what you've wrote and
either integrate this somehow into my system or follow your advice and
just use Mezzanine. I can certainly say that I've learned quite a few
new things in this thread :-)

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Re: [e-users] Evidence Evas

2004-08-07 Thread jerome wilson
Hello John,
Evas is not included in DR16.x download as it is part of the EFL, the base for DR17.
Evidence uses Evas for more eye-candy so i would suggest you use it :).
By the way your in luck there is a preview release of the EFL (just check 
enligthenment.org)
Your sure to find other stuff to enhance your desktop (and play with).



--WilAnJe

- Original Message -
From: John Halbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:30:55 -0500
To: Elightenment Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-users] Evidence  Evas

 hi,
 
 I'm having trouble with compiling Evidence;  I'm using DR16 (0.16.6) and when I'm
 compile Evidence I'm getting the error:
 
 In file included from evidence.c:31:
 thumbnail.h:4:20: Evas.h: No such file or directory
 In file included from evidence.c:31:
 thumbnail.h:20: error: parse error before Evas_Object
 thumbnail.h:20: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
 thumbnail.h:33: error: parse error before '}' token
 thumbnail.h:33: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `Evidence_Thumb'
 thumbnail.h:33: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
 thumbnail.h:50: error: parse error before '*' token
 thumbnail.h:50: error: parse error before Evas
 thumbnail.h:50: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `thumbnail_for'
 thumbnail.h:50: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
 evidence.c:1059:4: warning: #warning compiling without a canvas
 make[3]: *** [evidence.o] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/john/temp/compile/evidence-0.9.7/src'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/john/temp/compile/evidence-0.9.7/src'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/temp/compile/evidence-0.9.7'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 
 I was thinking that it was due to the fact that I didn't have evas.  When I went
 to the freshmeat page and found the evas page it just linked me to a download of
 enlightenment itself, so I guess it's already included in the wm?  Also, at the
 end of configure it tells me that for thumbnail view it will use evas, so I
 assume it's detected this on my system...  any suggestions?
 
 thanks
 john
 
 
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Re: [e-users] can't get embryo_cc to work

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Limon
Can you send a DIRECT link the image? I can't find it..

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Re: [e-users] updated epplets for 2.6 kernel?

2004-08-07 Thread John C.
That'd be really cool, let us know if you actually get around to do it.
Thanks
John
Edward S. Rustin wrote:
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e-memwatch should support 2.6 - I submitted a patch for it back in March
which was put into cvs.
I seem to recall that I looked at patching the disk usage epplet as
well, but I never quite got around to deciphering the format of the
/proc entry to get the stats from. Maybe I'll look into it again now 
though.

Ed / elemental
Michael Jennings wrote:
| On Sunday, 01 August 2004, at 13:35:41 (-0700),
| John C. wrote:
|
|
|I remember a while ago there was the discussion of whether the
|memory watcher and and disk usage epplets would be updated for the
|2.6 kernels. Will that happen with e16 still or do we have to wait
|for dr17? I'd personally like to have those epplets updated, as I
|can't use a 2.4 kernel on my laptop (hardware not supported). I
|think it's time that the epplets updated to 2.6, now that it's out
|and rolling, no?
|
|
| Patches cheerfully accepted. :)
|
| (Assuming they don't break 2.4 kernel support, that is...)
|
| Michael
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