Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

2015-10-07 Thread Davide Andreoli 
2015-10-07 21:45 GMT+02:00 Roy Reese :

> miércoles 7 de octubre de 2015 a las 19:56, David Myers wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
>
> > I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie).
>
> > I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any
> > other external HDD I plug into a usb port).
> >
> > I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto
> > unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives,
> > and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and
> > often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and
> > still eject my disk.
> >
> > I've read about some 'places viewer' plugin type thing, but I can't
> > find it anywhere in the repo's for debian,
> >
> > currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of
> > enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of
> > things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me).
> >
> > If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to
> > know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me.
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> >
> > David
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first place, or
> would like to unmount them?
>
> I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* mount
> drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and uncheck
> "Mount volumes on insertion".
>
> What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices, but not
> always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no).
>
> If you are unable to unmount them in Debian (I'm on Manjaro), there are
> two options. First, perhaps someone could suggest a simple bash script that
> would work the magic outside of EFM. Second, simply use another FM. EFM is
> not the greatest FM around (and intolerably slow on a 32-bit machine until
> about 6 months ago) and there are a lot of good ones out there. I have used
> DoubleCommander for over a year in part because it automatically mounts the
> Win partitions on my dual-boot machine -- and I love the dual pane
> managers. SpaceFM is similar and much lighter. You can also install LXDE's
> PCmanFM or XFCE's Thunar. (The irony in all these suggestions is that
> although I now sometimes use EFM, I have mostly kept it active for mounting
> and unmounting external drives!)
>
> By the way, the Places module is constantly criticised for not playing
> nice in E,


I never heard about this critics... can you give me some more info? so that
I can improve
the module to meet different requirements. I use it everyday in E (without
using the E fm)
and I do not have any problems.




> so Debian may not have elected to include in in the repositories.
>
> I hope some of these ramblings help.
>
> Best,
> Roy
>
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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

2015-10-07 Thread Peter Flynn 
On 07/10/15 20:45, Roy Reese wrote:
> Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first place, or would 
> like to unmount them?

I can'd speak for David, but I'd just like an icon to appear on my 
desktop when I insert a USB device. One I can click on to mount, 
unmount, open fileman, or whatever. Right now, e17 out of the box 
doesn't recognise anything has happened.

> I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* mount
> drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and
> uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion".

In e17 it's Settings > All > Files > File Manager.

Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick is 
inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/). 
Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else.

Setting it to open file manager on insert also does nothing. File 
manager does not run when a USB stick is inserted.

However, when I UNclick open file manager on insert and then click 
Apply, a little spinner flashes up briefly in the bottom LH corner of 
the screen.

So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything 
meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be 
certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in.

I'm running e17 on Xubuntu 14.04.3 LTS

> What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices,
> but not always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no).

When I first saw Eject as an option for USB drives, I thought how nice 
it would be if the socket had a spring-loaded ejecter like a tape drive 
does :-)

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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

2015-10-07 Thread Dale Snell 
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 22:48:01 +0100, in message
56159311.7020...@silmaril.ie, Peter Flynn wrote:

> On 07/10/15 20:45, Roy Reese wrote:
> > Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first
> > place, or would like to unmount them?
> 
> I can'd speak for David, but I'd just like an icon to appear on my 
> desktop when I insert a USB device. One I can click on to mount, 
> unmount, open fileman, or whatever. Right now, e17 out of the box 
> doesn't recognise anything has happened.
> 
> > I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not*
> > mount drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and
> > uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion".
> 
> In e17 it's Settings > All > Files > File Manager.
> 
> Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick
> is inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/). 
> Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else.

I don't know where Debian or Ubuntu mount hot-pluggable drives,
however, Fedora mounts them in /run/media//.  I
don't know why they changed from /media to /run/media, but they
did.  Perhaps Debian did the same.

> > What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices,
> > but not always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no).
> 
> When I first saw Eject as an option for USB drives, I thought how
> nice it would be if the socket had a spring-loaded ejecter like a
> tape drive does :-)

I can see it now, USB memory sticks flying about the room at Very
High Speed, Indeed.  Reminds me of the old DEC assembly
pseudo-instructions.  Such wonderful things as Execute Programmer
Immediate, Halt And Catch Fire, and our favorite, Eject Disk
Immediate.  Given the the usual disk in those days was an RK05,
which had a one-foot diameter aluminum platter spinning at 3600
RPM, it makes for one heck of a Frizbie.  :-)  :-)  :-)

Ancient humor aside, I hope this helps.

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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

2015-10-07 Thread Davide Andreoli 
2015-10-07 19:56 GMT+02:00 David Myers :

> Hello all,
>
> I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie).
>
> I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any
> other external HDD I plug into a usb port).
>
> I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto
> unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives,
> and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and
> often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and
> still eject my disk.
>
> I've read about some 'places viewer'  plugin type thing, but I can't
> find it anywhere in the repo's for debian,
>

You are searching for the places module:
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/emodules/places/

It let you mount/unmount volumes at your wish.
Dunno if there are precompiled debs, but you should be able to build
it from source (using the enlightenment-0.17 branch)


>
> currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of
> enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of
> things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me).
>
> If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to
> know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me.
>
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> David
>
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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

2015-10-07 Thread Mick 
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2015 18:56:36 David Myers wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie).
> 
> I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any
> other external HDD I plug into a usb port).
> 
> I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto
> unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives,
> and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and
> often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and
> still eject my disk.
> 
> I've read about some 'places viewer'  plugin type thing, but I can't
> find it anywhere in the repo's for debian,
> 
> currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of
> enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of
> things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me).
> 
> If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to
> know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me.
> 
> 
> thanks in advance.
> 
> David

Have a look at this thread - in two parts:

http://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-users/thread/CACEbyX3xjauqccaqrtA6m9CdGb72bEEpqQr3jOJ1O1FVChNDvg%40mail.gmail.com/#msg34479487

http://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-users/thread/20150922121721.3a0f314b64db555e495ed26c%40rasterman.com/#msg34479757

Current build from trunk should have been fixed.
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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

2015-10-07 Thread Roy Reese 
miércoles 7 de octubre de 2015 a las 19:56, David Myers wrote:

> Hello all,

> I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie).

> I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any
> other external HDD I plug into a usb port).
> 
> I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto
> unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives,
> and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and
> often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and
> still eject my disk.
> 
> I've read about some 'places viewer' plugin type thing, but I can't
> find it anywhere in the repo's for debian,
> 
> currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of
> enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of
> things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me).
> 
> If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to
> know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me.
> 
> thanks in advance.
> 
> David


Hi David,

Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first place, or would 
like to unmount them?

I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* mount drives 
automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and uncheck "Mount volumes 
on insertion".

What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices, but not 
always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no).

If you are unable to unmount them in Debian (I'm on Manjaro), there are two 
options. First, perhaps someone could suggest a simple bash script that would 
work the magic outside of EFM. Second, simply use another FM. EFM is not the 
greatest FM around (and intolerably slow on a 32-bit machine until about 6 
months ago) and there are a lot of good ones out there. I have used 
DoubleCommander for over a year in part because it automatically mounts the Win 
partitions on my dual-boot machine -- and I love the dual pane managers. 
SpaceFM is similar and much lighter. You can also install LXDE's PCmanFM or 
XFCE's Thunar. (The irony in all these suggestions is that although I now 
sometimes use EFM, I have mostly kept it active for mounting and unmounting 
external drives!)

By the way, the Places module is constantly criticised for not playing nice in 
E, so Debian may not have elected to include in in the repositories.

I hope some of these ramblings help.

Best,
Roy

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