Re: [e-users] no tray-SOLVED

2015-10-11 Thread Simon Lees



On 10/11/2015 11:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:58:34 -0400 Paul Cartwright 
said:


so there is no log ?? I should have written down that error, but I
didn't think it was important at the time..

~/.e-crashdump.txt

every segv that will be appended to. it requires gdb be installed and that you
disable yama ptrace "security" (this stops one process from ptracing another if
it is not a parent).

Heres one I just found running through the wizard, although it maybe in 
fribidi_get_bidi_type, I also used to see them after enabling openGL in  
that wizard page with a particular obscure combo of card and driver.  
The connman page also had one for a while at one point but i'm pretty 
sure thats fixed. The wizard has always suffered from a lack of testing 
given that most people run it once and forget about it.


Cheers

Simon

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#5  0x7f2cde71f08d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
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Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f2ce2376900 (LWP 11485)):
Python Exception  No module named gdb.frames: 
#0  0x7f2ce140120d in pause () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#1  
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#2  0x7f2cdcd3e40b in fribidi_get_bidi_type () from 
/usr/lib64/libfribidi.so.0
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L"\xde9db748缬\x1e6aac0") at lib/evas/common/language/evas_bidi_utils.c:89
type = 
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(eina_ustr=eina_ustr@entry=0x1e64ae0 L"\xde9db748缬\x1e6aac0", len=len@entry=3, 
segment_idxs=segment_idxs@entry=0x0) at 
lib/evas/common/language/evas_bidi_utils.c:241
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L"\xde9db748缬\x1e6aac0", o=0x1d8f9a0, eo_obj=0x80ba05d1) at 
lib/evas/canvas/evas_object_text.c:720
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lib/evas/canvas/evas_object_text.c:1924
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Re: [e-users] Releases

2015-10-11 Thread Simon Lees


On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
>  said:
>
>> Hi,
>> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
>> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
>> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
>>
>> Looks wrong for me.
> eh? won't work with eachother?
>
>
Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
mentioned in the release notes.



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Re: [e-users] Releases

2015-10-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:

> 
> 
> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> >  said:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> >>
> >> Looks wrong for me.
> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> >
> >
> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
> mentioned in the release notes.

why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of anything.
you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells you what is
missing.

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Re: [e-users] Releases

2015-10-11 Thread Wolfgang Morawetz
The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released 
version of efl 1.15.2

I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all 
releases let someone think the work with each other's. 



 Carsten Haitzler schrieb 

>On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
>
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
>> >  said:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
>> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
>> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
>> >>
>> >> Looks wrong for me.
>> > eh? won't work with eachother?
>> >
>> >
>> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
>> mentioned in the release notes.
>
>why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of anything.
>you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells you what is
>missing.
>
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Re: [e-users] Releases

2015-10-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:54:37 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
 said:

> The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released
> version of efl 1.15.2
> 
> I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all
> releases let someone think the work with each other's. 

enventor's release manager/maintainer needs to handle this - that page should
NOT go listing specific release info as it's basically a nightmare to then
maintain it in parallel to readme's and what is in each and every app.

as such nothing should get a release that doesn't work against the latest
official efl release at the time it is released (it should also work against
future versions too - but a break would imply an abi/api break in efl we have
to fix, or the app relied on undefined behavior or mis-used api's and new
updates got stricter or .. changed undefined behavior).

>  Carsten Haitzler schrieb 
> 
> >On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> >> >  said:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> >> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> >> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Looks wrong for me.
> >> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
> >> mentioned in the release notes.
> >
> >why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of
> >anything. you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells
> >you what is missing.
> >
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Re: [e-users] Missing icons

2015-10-11 Thread Markus Törnqvist
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 10:23:05AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 18:49:17 +0300 Markus Törnqvist  said:

>> Efreet seems dead though, does it exist anymore and is it relevant?
>
>not dead. still used. you should have an efreetd running. the efreet lib will
>launch an efreet automatically if it cant be contacted. i moved it from dbus to
>ecore ipc (sockets) several months ago.

Ooh nice! I see it in the process list.

>> I do have this symlink in place:

[Ethumb.service.link]

>> There is no Ethumb service running though.
>ethumb not needed. and it would run on demand - not all the time.

Ok, this makes sense :)

After banging my head against a wall for long enough, I got the icon situation
_kind of_ fixed, through a workaround that makes little sense.

Wrote about it on https://phab.enlightenment.org/T751 but the TL;DR
is that I deleted the module.everything.cache files, which don't even
refer to icons, and now it finds the icons :P

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Re: [e-users] Releases

2015-10-11 Thread marcel-hollerbach
I think what wfx means is that enventor is not working with 1.15.2, but
e forces you to use 1.15.2, so you have the decision, use up to date e
or enventor.

On enventor side the problem are the .eo files which are incompatible
with 1.15.2 because of the new eolian syntax.

Greetings bu5hm4n

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 09:23:15PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:54:37 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
>  said:
> 
> > The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released
> > version of efl 1.15.2
> > 
> > I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all
> > releases let someone think the work with each other's. 
> 
> enventor's release manager/maintainer needs to handle this - that page should
> NOT go listing specific release info as it's basically a nightmare to then
> maintain it in parallel to readme's and what is in each and every app.
> 
> as such nothing should get a release that doesn't work against the latest
> official efl release at the time it is released (it should also work against
> future versions too - but a break would imply an abi/api break in efl we have
> to fix, or the app relied on undefined behavior or mis-used api's and new
> updates got stricter or .. changed undefined behavior).
> 
> >  Carsten Haitzler schrieb 
> > 
> > >On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
> > >
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > >> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> > >> >  said:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> > >> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> > >> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Looks wrong for me.
> > >> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which was 
> > >> mentioned in the release notes.
> > >
> > >why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of
> > >anything. you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it tells
> > >you what is missing.
> > >
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Re: [e-users] Releases

2015-10-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:25:18 +0200 marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de said:

> I think what wfx means is that enventor is not working with 1.15.2, but
> e forces you to use 1.15.2, so you have the decision, use up to date e
> or enventor.
> 
> On enventor side the problem are the .eo files which are incompatible
> with 1.15.2 because of the new eolian syntax.

fundamental bug in relying on eo in a RELEASED piece of sw. eo/eolian are
unstable. they break.

> Greetings bu5hm4n
> 
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 09:23:15PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:54:37 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> >  said:
> > 
> > > The released application like eventor 0.6.0 do not work with the released
> > > version of efl 1.15.2
> > > 
> > > I think it would be nicer to give some sidenote about this. To list all
> > > releases let someone think the work with each other's. 
> > 
> > enventor's release manager/maintainer needs to handle this - that page
> > should NOT go listing specific release info as it's basically a nightmare
> > to then maintain it in parallel to readme's and what is in each and every
> > app.
> > 
> > as such nothing should get a release that doesn't work against the latest
> > official efl release at the time it is released (it should also work against
> > future versions too - but a break would imply an abi/api break in efl we
> > have to fix, or the app relied on undefined behavior or mis-used api's and
> > new updates got stricter or .. changed undefined behavior).
> > 
> > >  Carsten Haitzler schrieb 
> > > 
> > > >On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:48:17 +1030 Simon Lees  said:
> > > >
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> On 10/11/2015 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > >> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:22:16 +0200 Wolfgang Morawetz
> > > >> >  said:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi,
> > > >> >> on https://www.enlightenment.org/download
> > > >> >> can you read about the latest sourcecode releases but
> > > >> >> you dont write down that the wont work with each other.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Looks wrong for me.
> > > >> > eh? won't work with eachother?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> Maybe he's talking about the fact e19.12 requires efl 1.15.2? Which
> > > >> was mentioned in the release notes.
> > > >
> > > >why do we need to start listing all of that there? get the latest of
> > > >anything. you will find out soon enough when you run configure and it
> > > >tells you what is missing.
> > > >
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Re: [e-users] Releases

2015-10-11 Thread Markus Törnqvist
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 05:47:44AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>
>fundamental bug in relying on eo in a RELEASED piece of sw. eo/eolian are
>unstable. they break.

I disabled Enventor from my build script because of fails, to be investigated
later.

That makes me think should it be "un-released"? Or is there an estimate
for eo/eolian stability?

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