Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Blog about EO
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:40:25 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-17 1:24 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: compile-time for efl itself. you have to build it without checking. i'd advise against it because efll uses its own objects internally and if efl has a mistake in it you just nuked efl's own internal safety. i highly suggest not doing this. it may be that we remove the ability to compile without this check in the end as i an just see it now. gentoo ricers are going to add a use flag to turn this off and then we will get tonnes of stability complaints because the rest of us normal people run without turning the safety off. it's worth keeping this safety on. it doesn't cost much and is totally worth it. I'd like to see this checking disabled per call only, not globally. Then only bindings for safe languages would use it. I'll leave the safety checks turned on. They're worth. Also, EFL is for GUI only and heavy computing sensitive data can be implemented without negative impact by just not touching EFL (temporally). I disagree with that. Parts of EFL are not specific to GUI stuff, like Eina data structures and the functions to manage them, logging, file manipulation, executable running, etc. Even EFL based thread support. I use EFL in applications that don't have a GUI, using those sorts of things. In fact I do heavy computing using those EFL data structures and threading. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Blog about EO
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:37:32 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:02:09 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com said: 2014-08-16 2:36 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/1//post/yet_another_c_object_model_but_better/ I want to comment over there, but it requires facebook login. Is this authentication method the only supported on the Enlightenment blog? yup. thats what phab does. phabricator is what we use for our dev site and it's written by a bunch of ex facebook guys. thus fb is what it supports. that's odd. blender uses phab as well, and I have a regular local user account and password there. special code they've added maybe? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: Extreme fear can neither fight nor fly. -- William Shakespeare, The Rape of Lucrece -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Blog about EO
You think they'd let you comment via your phab account... :-\ Yomi On Aug 16, 2014 9:07 PM, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-16 2:36 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/1//post/yet_another_c_object_model_but_better/ I want to comment over there, but it requires facebook login. Is this authentication method the only supported on the Enlightenment blog? -- Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira https://about.me/vinipsmaker -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Blog about EO
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:02:09 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com said: 2014-08-16 2:36 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/1//post/yet_another_c_object_model_but_better/ I want to comment over there, but it requires facebook login. Is this authentication method the only supported on the Enlightenment blog? yup. thats what phab does. phabricator is what we use for our dev site and it's written by a bunch of ex facebook guys. thus fb is what it supports. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Blog about EO
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:11:51 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com said: 2014-08-16 23:37 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: yup. thats what phab does. phabricator is what we use for our dev site and it's written by a bunch of ex facebook guys. thus fb is what it supports. I don't have a fb account, so I'm replying here. First, good to see you posting again. Secondly, it looks very promising. Good to see the EFL community is still improving its technologies. Now, just a few questions: - A few languages can guarantee that dangling references cannot be created or have its own techniques to detect them. Is the object-checking (dis)activatable? I mean, is there an alternative way to call the Eo functions without the unnecessary checking cost? compile-time for efl itself. you have to build it without checking. i'd advise against it because efll uses its own objects internally and if efl has a mistake in it you just nuked efl's own internal safety. i highly suggest not doing this. it may be that we remove the ability to compile without this check in the end as i an just see it now. gentoo ricers are going to add a use flag to turn this off and then we will get tonnes of stability complaints because the rest of us normal people run without turning the safety off. it's worth keeping this safety on. it doesn't cost much and is totally worth it. - Is it thread-safe? I know it's a silly question, but a word confirming it would be good. eo is. yes. efl in general (evas, edje etc.) are not, but eo is. -- Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira https://about.me/vinipsmaker -- ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
