Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-24 Thread doktor5000
Mirek schrieb:
> http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_linux_display_x86_1.0-9625.html
>
> There are other more actual drivers, but those are working best. You 
> have to use at least these options:
>
>  Option  "ConnectedMonitor"  "DFP"
>  Option  "NoLogo""TRUE"
>  Option  "HWcursor"
>  Option  "RenderAccel"   "true"
>  Option  "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
>  Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
>  Option  "NvAGP" "0"
>  Option  "DynamicTwinView" "false"
>
> Mirek
>   
FYI, everything older than 9629 are beta drivers, and 9629 final
got some added functionality. Additionally, for beryl you would only
need the following, according to you distro you may have to change a 
little bit:

Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
Option  "RenderAccel"   "true" 
Option  "DisableGLXRootClipping" "true"


You missed:

Section "Extensions" 
Option  "Composite" "Enable" 
Option  "RENDER" "Enable"



Everything else is not needed according to beryl Developers.

Kind Regards


Florian

  

  





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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Mirek
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_linux_display_x86_1.0-9625.html

There are other more actual drivers, but those are working best. You 
have to use at least these options:

 Option  "ConnectedMonitor"  "DFP"
 Option  "NoLogo""TRUE"
 Option  "HWcursor"
 Option  "RenderAccel"   "true"
 Option  "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
 Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
 Option  "NvAGP" "0"
 Option  "DynamicTwinView" "false"

Mirek

Paul Stejskal napsal(a):
> Mirek wrote:
>> That is true, I have working Beryl in KDE and Gnome with nvidia 9625 
>> drivers, Xorg 7.1 and nvidia GF 6800 GS without XGL or AIGLX. The main 
>> advantages are: very easy installation, working tvtime and normal X 
>> server which is better than XGL (keyboard issues).
>>
>> Mirek
>>
>> Edward Crabtree napsal(a):
>>   
> This is probably a stupid question and I apologize, but how do you get 
> the 9625 drivers? I only see the 8000 series on nvidia's site? (I have a 
> FX5200 graphics card).
> 
> Paul
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Edward Crabtree
Here is a link to the drivers you seek:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9629.html

Enjoy :D


>From: Paul Stejskal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?
>Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:20:48 -0600
>
>Mirek wrote:
> > That is true, I have working Beryl in KDE and Gnome with nvidia 9625
> > drivers, Xorg 7.1 and nvidia GF 6800 GS without XGL or AIGLX. The main
> > advantages are: very easy installation, working tvtime and normal X
> > server which is better than XGL (keyboard issues).
> >
> > Mirek
> >
> > Edward Crabtree napsal(a):
> >
>This is probably a stupid question and I apologize, but how do you get
>the 9625 drivers? I only see the 8000 series on nvidia's site? (I have a
>FX5200 graphics card).
>
>Paul
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Paul Stejskal
Mirek wrote:
> That is true, I have working Beryl in KDE and Gnome with nvidia 9625 
> drivers, Xorg 7.1 and nvidia GF 6800 GS without XGL or AIGLX. The main 
> advantages are: very easy installation, working tvtime and normal X 
> server which is better than XGL (keyboard issues).
>
> Mirek
>
> Edward Crabtree napsal(a):
>   
This is probably a stupid question and I apologize, but how do you get 
the 9625 drivers? I only see the 8000 series on nvidia's site? (I have a 
FX5200 graphics card).

Paul

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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Nils Larsson
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:27:15 +1100
Metrics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 05:34:22AM -0500, Jean-Marie Verdun wrote:
> > This is a good news ... So, now where can we find some tarball with source
> > code as to test and contribute to this promising software.
> > I particulary like the "expose" like function.
> > 
> > Jm
> > 
> 
> To put an end to this long running thread full of thoughts and
> assumptions. This is how it stands. Currently the bang module is not for
> general use. It ONLY works on XGL. It requires patches throughout E17
> (which last I checked didn't apply properly). It is unstable.
> 
> metrics

Thanks to all the hype and buzzwords, XGL is now super ambiguous. To specify, 
you will need you system to support the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension( 
glxinfo | grep  GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap ). You also need either a AIGLX 
enabled X.Org server, or nvidia's|ATI's proprietary blob, both with a card that 
supports that particular extension. 

On the matter of XGL, quoting http://principe.homelinux.net/ ( a good read BTW )
"Xgl is [a] new X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL: it doesn't need 
X drivers anymore, but just OpenGL drivers for all its rendering. Current 
implementation of Xgl is Xglx. It's just an "hack" to see what Xgl is capable 
of."

Read the last sentence of that quote at least twice.

I would argue that running E17( remember, it's pre-pre alpha ) on top of an X 
server with features so immature( and a "hack" if it's XGL ), is pretty much 
asking for it. Patience is a virtue, wait for this technology to mature before 
you jump the GLX wagon. 

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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Jean-Marie Verdun
Bling does not provide expose like function, but Beryl yes.

What I am thinking about since a couple of weeks/months is that it should
be possible to make an expose like function + translucency without OpenGL
support, but "only" Composite extension from the X Server.

What I like in enlightenment it is his speed, small memory footprint,
responsiveness and beauty. I make it run using xserver from X11R7 (no 3D
effect only 2D acceleration) and that is enough and really fast. That is
true that I would like to see functions like expose and windows
translucency.

I was waiting for such solution to happen and bling is a good step
forward. As soon as I will have some times, I will try to code a patch to
implement an expose like based on compositing and adding some functions to
bling like translucency changes during windows movement. Unfortunatly I am
pretty busy right now and it could requires some times except, if beryl or
bang could run without Xgl ...

The key issue with Beryl is that it is a full window manager, I believe
that bang has extract some part of the code and ported it to e17, I just
would like to avoid redoing the work that somebody has done.

Jm

> I tought you needed AXGL + bang! to get expose, blig does not provide
> that, am I wrong?
>
> On 11/23/06, Jean-Marie Verdun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> This is a good news ... So, now where can we find some tarball with
>> source
>> code as to test and contribute to this promising software.
>> I particulary like the "expose" like function.
>>
>> Jm
>>
>>
>> > That is true, I have working Beryl in KDE and Gnome with nvidia 9625
>> > drivers, Xorg 7.1 and nvidia GF 6800 GS without XGL or AIGLX. The main
>> > advantages are: very easy installation, working tvtime and normal X
>> > server which is better than XGL (keyboard issues).
>> >
>> > Mirek
>> >
>> > Edward Crabtree napsal(a):
>> >> Modular X and the new nVidia drivers have native composite support,
>> so
>> >> you
>> >> shouldn't require XGL to run beryl... I haven't tried it myself
>> though.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> From: "Michele Caini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> To: "Daniel Kasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> CC: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>> Subject: Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?
>> >>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:59:25 +0100
>> >>>
>> >>> Ok, bling is... Perfect!!
>> >>> Only one question: how can I set transparency percentage?
>> >>> Thanks a lot...
>> >>>
>> >>> 2006/11/22, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Perhaps a stupid question, but does this require Xgl ? It will be
>> >>> great
>> >>>> if
>> >>>>> it requires only Compositing extension. It seems really promising.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> It's based on compiz, so it will have the same requirements: XGL or
>> >>> AIGLX.
>> >>>> --
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>> >>>> IT Developer
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Asfand Yar Qazi
On 11/22/06, Michele Caini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, bling is... Perfect!!
> Only one question: how can I set transparency percentage?
> Thanks a lot...
>

You can't.  the E17 team aren't concentrating on translucency and
bells/whistles like that - bling is all you've got.  A recent query to
Rasterman  about it got me the answer that it is translucency support
like in E16 is not expected to be included in E17, but may be in E18.

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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Metrics
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 05:34:22AM -0500, Jean-Marie Verdun wrote:
> This is a good news ... So, now where can we find some tarball with source
> code as to test and contribute to this promising software.
> I particulary like the "expose" like function.
> 
> Jm
> 

To put an end to this long running thread full of thoughts and
assumptions. This is how it stands. Currently the bang module is not for
general use. It ONLY works on XGL. It requires patches throughout E17
(which last I checked didn't apply properly). It is unstable.

metrics

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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread muzzle
I tought you needed AXGL + bang! to get expose, blig does not provide
that, am I wrong?

On 11/23/06, Jean-Marie Verdun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a good news ... So, now where can we find some tarball with source
> code as to test and contribute to this promising software.
> I particulary like the "expose" like function.
>
> Jm
>
>
> > That is true, I have working Beryl in KDE and Gnome with nvidia 9625
> > drivers, Xorg 7.1 and nvidia GF 6800 GS without XGL or AIGLX. The main
> > advantages are: very easy installation, working tvtime and normal X
> > server which is better than XGL (keyboard issues).
> >
> > Mirek
> >
> > Edward Crabtree napsal(a):
> >> Modular X and the new nVidia drivers have native composite support, so
> >> you
> >> shouldn't require XGL to run beryl... I haven't tried it myself though.
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: "Michele Caini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "Daniel Kasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> CC: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?
> >>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:59:25 +0100
> >>>
> >>> Ok, bling is... Perfect!!
> >>> Only one question: how can I set transparency percentage?
> >>> Thanks a lot...
> >>>
> >>> 2006/11/22, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps a stupid question, but does this require Xgl ? It will be
> >>> great
> >>>> if
> >>>>> it requires only Compositing extension. It seems really promising.
> >>>>>
> >>>> It's based on compiz, so it will have the same requirements: XGL or
> >>> AIGLX.
> >>>> --
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-23 Thread Jean-Marie Verdun
This is a good news ... So, now where can we find some tarball with source
code as to test and contribute to this promising software.
I particulary like the "expose" like function.

Jm


> That is true, I have working Beryl in KDE and Gnome with nvidia 9625
> drivers, Xorg 7.1 and nvidia GF 6800 GS without XGL or AIGLX. The main
> advantages are: very easy installation, working tvtime and normal X
> server which is better than XGL (keyboard issues).
>
> Mirek
>
> Edward Crabtree napsal(a):
>> Modular X and the new nVidia drivers have native composite support, so
>> you
>> shouldn't require XGL to run beryl... I haven't tried it myself though.
>>
>>
>>> From: "Michele Caini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Daniel Kasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> CC: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:59:25 +0100
>>>
>>> Ok, bling is... Perfect!!
>>> Only one question: how can I set transparency percentage?
>>> Thanks a lot...
>>>
>>> 2006/11/22, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps a stupid question, but does this require Xgl ? It will be
>>> great
>>>> if
>>>>> it requires only Compositing extension. It seems really promising.
>>>>>
>>>> It's based on compiz, so it will have the same requirements: XGL or
>>> AIGLX.
>>>> --
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>>>> IT Developer
>>>> NUS Consulting Group
>>>> Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway
>>>> North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-22 Thread Mirek
That is true, I have working Beryl in KDE and Gnome with nvidia 9625 
drivers, Xorg 7.1 and nvidia GF 6800 GS without XGL or AIGLX. The main 
advantages are: very easy installation, working tvtime and normal X 
server which is better than XGL (keyboard issues).

Mirek

Edward Crabtree napsal(a):
> Modular X and the new nVidia drivers have native composite support, so you 
> shouldn't require XGL to run beryl... I haven't tried it myself though.
> 
> 
>> From: "Michele Caini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Daniel Kasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> CC: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?
>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:59:25 +0100
>>
>> Ok, bling is... Perfect!!
>> Only one question: how can I set transparency percentage?
>> Thanks a lot...
>>
>> 2006/11/22, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps a stupid question, but does this require Xgl ? It will be 
>> great
>>> if
>>>> it requires only Compositing extension. It seems really promising.
>>>>
>>> It's based on compiz, so it will have the same requirements: XGL or 
>> AIGLX.
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kasak
>>> IT Developer
>>> NUS Consulting Group
>>> Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-22 Thread Edward Crabtree
Modular X and the new nVidia drivers have native composite support, so you 
shouldn't require XGL to run beryl... I haven't tried it myself though.


>From: "Michele Caini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Daniel Kasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?
>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:59:25 +0100
>
>Ok, bling is... Perfect!!
>Only one question: how can I set transparency percentage?
>Thanks a lot...
>
>2006/11/22, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > > Hi,
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> > > Perhaps a stupid question, but does this require Xgl ? It will be 
>great
> > if
> > > it requires only Compositing extension. It seems really promising.
> > >
> >
> > It's based on compiz, so it will have the same requirements: XGL or 
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-22 Thread Michele Caini
Ok, bling is... Perfect!!
Only one question: how can I set transparency percentage?
Thanks a lot...

2006/11/22, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > Hi,
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> >
>
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-21 Thread Nikolas Arend
Michele Caini wrote:
> Hi...
>   
>> found this video in google
>> 
> Yes, Is like what I speak about!!
> I try to use elicite (I will try bling) once but now is impossible to
> compile e_modules and I don't know how to load any modules!!
> So, no elicite, no bling, no engage, nothing!
Slightly off-topic... The top-level e_modules Makefile stops when any 
module fails to build, but you can always compile the modules 
separately. Some won't compile, but most of them will. You can also just 
modify the top-level Makefile to continue in case of an error.

HTH,  Nick.


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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-21 Thread benh
I found this thread on the forums that points to some code... dont
know how useful it is though?

http://edevelop.org/node/2885



On 11/21/06, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michele Caini wrote:
>
> > Yes, Is like what I speak about!!
> > I try to use elicite (I will try bling) once but now is impossible to
> > compile e_modules and I don't know how to load any modules!!
> > So, no elicite, no bling, no engage, nothing!!
> > Oh... I'm so happy using e17 but I've some problem... Sgrunf!! :)
> > I'll solve it... maybe!!
> > Do you know how?
> > Thanks a lot...
> >
>
> Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any source released yet - only
> videos. There's nothing in the svn repository. Someone could contact the
> author and ask about plans for a release - but you have to assume
> they'll release it "when it's ready" :)
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-19 Thread Mirek
Ok, it was X server, there was no beatiful white box of death :)

Mirek

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) napsal(a):
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:12:09 +0100 Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
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>> For me e17 crashed to entrance after beryl-start
> 
> are you sure e17 crashed and not x? when e17 crashes - it puts up a nice
> friendly "white box of death".
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>> Mirek
>>
>> Michele Caini napsal(a):
>>> Hi,
>>> I'd like to try beryl with e17.
>>> I read about compiz with e17 and beryl comes from compiz, so...
>>> It's possible?
>>> Please, help me...
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:12:09 +0100 Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> For me e17 crashed to entrance after beryl-start

are you sure e17 crashed and not x? when e17 crashes - it puts up a nice
friendly "white box of death".

> Mirek
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> Michele Caini napsal(a):
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Re: [e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-19 Thread Mirek
For me e17 crashed to entrance after beryl-start

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Michele Caini napsal(a):
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[e-users] beryl + e17: possible?

2006-11-19 Thread Michele Caini
Hi,
I'd like to try beryl with e17.
I read about compiz with e17 and beryl comes from compiz, so...
It's possible?
Please, help me...
Thanks!!
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