Re: Archiving from Entourage X ?

2001-11-01 Thread Allen Watson

on 1/11/01 4:00 AM, Dan Crevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 There are no new archiving features, but we have been working on performance
 in large databases for opening large folders and doing searches.  The only
 reason I see for archiving is if your backup strategy cannot handle backing
 up a single large database.

I will say that, on the one hand, if the performance improvements are
significant, and allow good performance with much larger databases, I will
doubtless archive less frequently than I used to.

However, I will still archive. FileMaker (the database engine behind
eMessage Archiver, and also the archiving scripts that originated with
Emailer by this same Dan Crevier) has search abilities that are still
lacking in Entourage, such as the ability to combine AND and OR and NOT type
searches--e.g. (From is Jones OR From is Smith) AND Sent Date is
less than 9/1/01 AND NOT Subject contains digest. Maybe there is a way
to do that specific example in Entourage, but I know I've run into the
limitation of using either All criteria  Any criteria. Plus, it keeps
the main Entourage database size down, which speeds daily backups.


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Re: Archiving from Entourage X ?

2001-10-31 Thread Allen Watson

On or near 10/31/01 8:35 AM, ::. jay.west at [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed:

 Does anyone know if email archiving will be any easier from the forthcoming
 Entourage X? I'm just wondering if I should archive today using one of the
 existing Entourage to FileMaker archivers or wait a month or two for the new
 Entourage X and archive then?

eMessage Archiver, by John Carlsen, works with Entourage 2001 and with
Entourage X. John was among the beta testers for Entourage, to our good
fortune. It also works with FMP 3, 4, 5.0 and 5.5! So, if you are running
FMP in Classic and Entourage under OS X, that will work.

In case anyone missed it, John now has available a copy of eMessage Archiver
that INCLUDES FILEMAKER PRO as a runtime module. That is, you can use his
FMP archive database, but you cannot make any changes or create other FMP
databases. YOU NO LONGER NEED TO OWN FILEMAKER TO USE EMESSAGE ARCHIVER. The
runtime is of FMP 5.0, so it will run in Classic under OS X, but that is a
minor shortcoming, surely, to have access to such a superb mail archiving
package.

Go to http://homepage.mac.com/ThinkAgain/Mac/eMA/ to download. And be sure
to pay the shareware fee!
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Re: Archiving from Entourage X ?

2001-10-31 Thread Sherman Wilcox

On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 10:12 AM, Allen Watson wrote:

 eMessage Archiver, by John Carlsen, works with Entourage 2001 and with
 Entourage X. John was among the beta testers for Entourage, to our good
 fortune. It also works with FMP 3, 4, 5.0 and 5.5! So, if you are 
 running
 FMP in Classic and Entourage under OS X, that will work.

Perhaps I'm missing something (I probably am, since I haven't read the 
docs). And I really want to love and use this archiving solution, 
especially when I upgrade to Entourage X. But...

I downloaded version 3.03. I have FMP 5.5 installed. I'm running OS X 
10.1. I fired up Classic, launched Entourage, and then opened the FMP 
5.5 version of eMessage Archiver.

I set eMA to archive Entourage in the little popup menus (lower right). 
I then went to Archiving Options and asked eMA to get my list of 
mailboxes; it asked me to first find the Script Librarian but then 
didn't show it in the scrolling list that OS X now provides (I assume 
this is an Applescript thing). So I selected Browse and found it that 
way. eMA then retrieved the list of mail folders from Entourage.

I clicked the Archive button. eMA again asked me to find the Script 
Librarian, went off and did something, but it never archived anything. I 
had selected a folder to archive (my Inbox) and selected older than 0 
days for current messages. eMA was in test mode.

I've tried this a couple of times: relaunching Entourage, FMP, eMA, etc. 
It never archives anything.

Does anyone have any idea what's wrong here?

TIA,

-- Sherman Wilcox


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Re: Archiving from Entourage X ?

2001-10-31 Thread Paul Berkowitz

Sherman,

You should join the eMA-Talk mailing list (very very low volume) from the
website where you got eMA, and you'll probably get John Carlsen himself
solving this for you. People have not had trouble with FMP 5.5. I don't have
it yet but will get it soon - I've had no trouble with 5.0 and eMA.

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 From: Sherman Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Entourage:mac Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:41:52 -0700
 To: Entourage:mac Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Archiving from Entourage X ?
 
 On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 10:12 AM, Allen Watson wrote:
 
 eMessage Archiver, by John Carlsen, works with Entourage 2001 and with
 Entourage X. John was among the beta testers for Entourage, to our good
 fortune. It also works with FMP 3, 4, 5.0 and 5.5! So, if you are
 running
 FMP in Classic and Entourage under OS X, that will work.
 
 Perhaps I'm missing something (I probably am, since I haven't read the
 docs). And I really want to love and use this archiving solution,
 especially when I upgrade to Entourage X. But...
 
 I downloaded version 3.03. I have FMP 5.5 installed. I'm running OS X
 10.1. I fired up Classic, launched Entourage, and then opened the FMP
 5.5 version of eMessage Archiver.
 
 I set eMA to archive Entourage in the little popup menus (lower right).
 I then went to Archiving Options and asked eMA to get my list of
 mailboxes; it asked me to first find the Script Librarian but then
 didn't show it in the scrolling list that OS X now provides (I assume
 this is an Applescript thing). So I selected Browse and found it that
 way. eMA then retrieved the list of mail folders from Entourage.
 
 I clicked the Archive button. eMA again asked me to find the Script
 Librarian, went off and did something, but it never archived anything. I
 had selected a folder to archive (my Inbox) and selected older than 0
 days for current messages. eMA was in test mode.
 
 I've tried this a couple of times: relaunching Entourage, FMP, eMA, etc.
 It never archives anything.
 
 Does anyone have any idea what's wrong here?
 
 TIA,
 
 -- Sherman Wilcox
 
 
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Re: Archiving from Entourage X ?

2001-10-31 Thread Paul Berkowitz

On 10/31/01 3:34 PM, David Leitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 1/11/01 4:00 AM, Dan Crevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 There are no new archiving features, but we have been working on performance
 in large databases for opening large folders and doing searches.  The only
 reason I see for archiving is if your backup strategy cannot handle backing
 up a single large database.
 
 Anaother reason might be to slim down your email program. Older mail (say
 more than 12 months old) may be moved to a backup disk.

For that, you can just drag folders to your hard disk to make MBOX text
files, then delete them (or their contents) from Entourage. But if you think
you will want search capabilities after archiving (otherwise you'd have to
drag them all back temporarily into Entourage to search there), then an
archiver such as eMA is extremely useful.

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