Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] processing steps, restartable downloads and ECF

2007-09-10 Thread Jeff McAffer
Scott Lewis wrote on 09/10/2007 12:58:10 PM:

> Actually, I'm a little surprised that you have so far passed the 
> ProcessingSteps as output streams directly to the ECF OutputStream, 
> as I was expecting that you would have a temporary file to receive 
> the file contents, and then when the file reception is done *then* 
> apply the ProcessingSteps. 

Is there something wrong with passing the data along immediate?  I guess 
it would be a trade off.  Some steps only work on whole files while others 
can be streamed.  Streaming is more effecient since you have the bytes 
right there.  there may be some buffering (e.g., performance) but there 
are several opportunities for optimization.  We could also add a step at 
the beginning of a chain that buffers up the data in a file and then pumps 
it through.  This sort of step could be used to do the restarting but if 
ECF already had (or could have) something, that seems like more fun.

> But in any event, we can add impl support for pause/resume/caching 
> etc to the ECF receive implementations w/o changing API to support 
> required use cases.  I would appreciate a little better 
> understanding of the existing ProcessingSteps and their function...
> so could someone point me at the relevant packages/classes and I'll 
> take more of a look?

The current code is in my workspace as I have been doing some significant 
reworking and have not finished.  I will post to this list when it is 
released.

> Seems like this would also be a good topic for the upcoming Equinox 
> Summit:  what enhancements are needed for file transfer both at API 
> and impl:  e.g. pause/resume enhancements, file caching, 
> monitoring/transfer statistics collection?, support more/other 
providers, etc.

yes.  I added this to the list.  Under your name :-)

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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread Jeff McAffer
yes!  re confusing names.  Renaming the JarProcessor one sounds good to 
me.   Unless of course the p2 artifact repo processing steps make sense in 
the JAR processor.   :-)

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I'm not sure it will be necessary to use JarProcessor for this.  The main 
benefit of using the JarProcessor is when doing modifications recursively 
on nested jars.  To verify during install, I think it's sufficient to 
verify the top level artifact, so recursion isn't needed. Also, since 
verification involves user participation(presenting certificates, asking 
if they trust the signer, etc), it may not work well as a processing step. 


An aside: it's already confusing me to have IProcessStep in the jar 
processor bundle, and IProcessingStep in the artifact repository. We 
should probably rename the former to IJarProcessStep, or some such. 



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+1

There is currently provisional API in the org.eclipse.osgi which is 
currently used by update to check the certificate trust and to verify the 
content of signed bundles. I assume the jar processor API can use an 
IProcessStep to which uses the API from the framework to perform this type 
of check? Or would verifying the signed content continue to be a separate 
step as it is today in update?

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+1 

As for doing it now, is there any benefit to waiting? 
There is some amount of work that will depend on this change. Both 
update.core and pde.build will need to be updated after this change. As 
well, the p2.jarprocessor is considered HEAD for bug fixes (there is at 
least https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=190064 that should be 
fixed). and clients would not get these fixes until it is promoted. 
While there is no particular rush on these changes, it is good to get 
anything that might block them out of the way. 

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In the long, there is no discussion about doing this change. However the
benefits of doing it right away are not clear to me.

+0

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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels 
of
Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the processor
(pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this function as a
stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the p2 work we did
just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content
from an incubator.

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate 
the
current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code in
the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3.3.  All we are
doing is putting it in a separate bundle. The only thing at issue is the
shape of the API and that can evolve until the API freeze just as any 
other
bundle in HEAD.

So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle.
+1 from me.

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Re: [equinox-dev] Reconciling two profiles

2007-09-10 Thread Pascal Rapicault
Hi,

As you guessed, doing a "become" followed by an installation of the bits
installed in the user profile will cause a loss of information, since after
the completion of the become the profile will have completely forgotten
about the user IUs (the IUs that had been installed in the user profile)
with all the consequences this could mean.
Given that the current implementation of "become" analyzes the dependencies
and adds what is necessary for satisfaction of the installation, what you
may want to do is:
- create a profile IU  that refers to:
1 all the IUs referred to from the shared profile
2 all the user IUs, (maybe not all, but just the ones that were
installed by the user in the first place (entry points))
- call become on the IU resulting from the previous computation.

Another approach, that may not work with the current implementation but may
worth thinking about is:
- the user profile contains an IU representing the shared profile (if you
were to list the IUs in the profile you would see this IU).
- then, when the shared profile changes, the reconciliation operation
consists in replacing (IDirector.replace()) the IU representing the old
version of the shared profile by the new one and "let the magic happen"
Pros of this approach:
- it is really explicit that this profile is 'derived' from another one
since there is a reference to it
Cons:
- the reference to the profile may turn out to be problematic when the user
IUs need to cause changes in what is referred from it
- reconciliation could only happen on such profiles, whereas the concept of
reconciliation is interesting in other contexts (for example, I want to
make my profile like Andrew's one but I want to keep the IUs that I had).

HTH,

PaScaL




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Hi,

As we discussed on the call today, Tim and I have been working on a
Reconciler.  Pascal mentioned his contentiously-named become operation
in the Director.  This is very similar to what I wrote in our Reconciler
but now I'm at the stage where I want to "re-install" what was initially
in the "user" (for lack of better source/target mandatory/optional
terminology) profile.  Should we do just that:  re-install the IUs that
were previously there?  That would be simple and we could just use
Director.become and then a bunch of install operations.  But will this
mess up preferences or other things that may be stored in profiles?
What about stuff that was configured in the profile?  Ideally everything
would be the same as it was before except if it _needed_ to be changed
by the morphing of the underlying "base" profile.

Thoughts?

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[equinox-dev] Equinox projects tagged for 3.4 I-build

2007-09-10 Thread Thomas Watson

The map file has been updated for the following Bug changes:
+ Bug 165964. Process Bundle-NativeCode at resolve time (FIXED)
+ Bug 200068. AdapterManager fails to find correct IAdapterFactory if the
IAdapterFactory implementation class loader cannot load the class returned
by the getAdapterList() method (FIXED)
+ Bug 201489. [osgi R5] multiple versions of a fragment should not attach
to the same host (FIXED)

The following projects have changed:
org.eclipse.osgi.tests
org.eclipse.osgi
org.eclipse.equinox.common
org.eclipse.equinox.supplement

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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Comments on "Equinox Provisioning Engine" Wiki page

2007-09-10 Thread James D Miles





I have posted a new page "Multi-User Proposal for P2"
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Multi-User_Proposal_For_P2



   
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Most of these questions and requirements center on how to implement a
multiuser implementation. I will post information on that in bug 185826
today, hopefully. Then we can continue the discussion as appropriate. Sorry
I am so late to the party.

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> Simon thanks for adding the info to the wiki. I have a lot of
> questions and comments but will constrain myself to a few here. Once
> these are clarified I will attack the remainder.
>
> In the section "Engine processing model and phases"
> You list collect, validate, uninstall/unconfigure,...
> Is this the order that an operation is asked if it wants to participate
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That's right, the engine will run over the phases in order. The list of
phases provided on the wiki is really a starting point as they fit with the
code we have in the engine.
I'm hoping we will have stable set of phases sooner rather than later as
this can affect operations and also the touchpoint action content in IUs
when we get to that.

> The uninstall/unconfigure is not clear. I view these as separate
> phases. And unconfigure would come first.
> In general I don't know what is meant by the use of the '/' means.
The '/' was meant to denote uncertainty.
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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread John Arthorne
I'm not sure it will be necessary to use JarProcessor for this.  The main 
benefit of using the JarProcessor is when doing modifications recursively 
on nested jars.  To verify during install, I think it's sufficient to 
verify the top level artifact, so recursion isn't needed. Also, since 
verification involves user participation(presenting certificates, asking 
if they trust the signer, etc), it may not work well as a processing step.

An aside: it's already confusing me to have IProcessStep in the jar 
processor bundle, and IProcessingStep in the artifact repository. We 
should probably rename the former to IJarProcessStep, or some such.




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+1

There is currently provisional API in the org.eclipse.osgi which is 
currently used by update to check the certificate trust and to verify the 
content of signed bundles. I assume the jar processor API can use an 
IProcessStep to which uses the API from the framework to perform this type 
of check? Or would verifying the signed content continue to be a separate 
step as it is today in update?

Tom



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+1 

As for doing it now, is there any benefit to waiting? 
There is some amount of work that will depend on this change. Both 
update.core and pde.build will need to be updated after this change. As 
well, the p2.jarprocessor is considered HEAD for bug fixes (there is at 
least https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=190064 that should be 
fixed). and clients would not get these fixes until it is promoted. 
While there is no particular rush on these changes, it is good to get 
anything that might block them out of the way. 

-Andrew 

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In the long, there is no discussion about doing this change. However the
benefits of doing it right away are not clear to me.

+0

PaScaL


  
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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels 
of
Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the processor
(pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this function as a
stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the p2 work we did
just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content
from an incubator.

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate 
the
current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code in
the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3.3.  All we are
doing is putting it in a separate bundle. The only thing at issue is the
shape of the API and that can evolve until the API freeze just as any 
other
bundle in HEAD.

So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle.
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[equinox-dev] Reconciling two profiles

2007-09-10 Thread Andrew Overholt
Hi,

As we discussed on the call today, Tim and I have been working on a
Reconciler.  Pascal mentioned his contentiously-named become operation
in the Director.  This is very similar to what I wrote in our Reconciler
but now I'm at the stage where I want to "re-install" what was initially
in the "user" (for lack of better source/target mandatory/optional
terminology) profile.  Should we do just that:  re-install the IUs that
were previously there?  That would be simple and we could just use
Director.become and then a bunch of install operations.  But will this
mess up preferences or other things that may be stored in profiles?
What about stuff that was configured in the profile?  Ideally everything
would be the same as it was before except if it _needed_ to be changed
by the morphing of the underlying "base" profile.

Thoughts?

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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread Pascal Rapicault
I did not know it included some fixes that were necessary.
+1





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+1

As for doing it now, is there any benefit to waiting?
There is some amount of work that will depend on this change.  Both
update.core and pde.build will need to be updated after this change.  As
well, the p2.jarprocessor is considered HEAD for bug fixes (there is at
least https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=190064 that should be
fixed). and clients would not get these fixes until it is promoted.
While there is no particular rush on these changes, it is good to get
anything that might block them out of the way.

-Andrew

   
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In the long, there is no discussion about doing this change. However the
benefits of doing it right away are not clear to me.

+0

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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels of
Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the processor
(pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this function as a
stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the p2 work we did
just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content
from an incubator.

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate the
current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code in
the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3.3.  All we are
doing is putting it in a separate bundle. The only thing at issue is the
shape of the API and that can evolve until the API freeze just as any other
bundle in HEAD.

So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle.
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] processing steps, restartable downloads and ECF

2007-09-10 Thread Scott Lewis

Hi Jeff,

Jeff McAffer wrote:


Thanks to Stefan we have been introducing  the notion of 
ProcessingSteps to munge the content as it is downloaded from an 
artifact repository.  This allows for things like inline MD5 digest 
checking, unpack200 processing, delta merging, signature checking, ... 
 All great stuff.  Pascal just raised a very interesting question. 
 How do we handle restarting?  Some background.  In the current 
prototype (in my workspace, not yet in CVS) there is a chain of 
ProcessingStep objects.  Each step is actually an OutputStream that 
knows about the next step (output stream) in the chain.  When a byte 
is written to step/stream N, it is processed (counted, transformed, 
...) and then the result passed on to step N+1.  This repeats until 
finally the content gets to the last stream in the chain which is 
usually a FileOutputStream of some sort and so the content is then 
written to disk.  All is well.


Now, what happens if we crash or the user somehow pauses the download? 
 The content is partially processed/transformed but it would likely be 
too costly for each step to persist its intermediate results.  It 
would be more likely that somehow the raw content coming in to the 
head of the chain of steps is cached and then when the download is 
restarted after a crash/exit, the chain is recreated and the download 
is effectively replayed through the chain from the cache.  When that 
is done, the further content from the source would then be pushed 
through the chain.


So, two questions.  Does this make sense?  and if so, how should we 
implement this?  I wonder if ECF has some technology/support/designs 
in this area since it seems they support restartable downloads.  Scott?


Unfortunately not as much as we would like.  We do have API support for 
pausing/resuming downloads (IFileTransferPausable), and the existing 
impls do naively support this interface, but we need/want to add 
further/better implementation support (e.g. direct protocol support for 
protocols that have pause/resume, partial file caching, etc).


Actually, I'm a little surprised that you have so far passed the 
ProcessingSteps as output streams directly to the ECF OutputStream, as I 
was expecting that you would have a temporary file to receive the file 
contents, and then when the file reception is done *then* apply the 
ProcessingSteps. 

But in any event, we can add impl support for pause/resume/caching etc 
to the ECF receive implementations w/o changing API to support required 
use cases.  I would appreciate a little better understanding of the 
existing ProcessingSteps and their function...so could someone point me 
at the relevant packages/classes and I'll take more of a look?


Seems like this would also be a good topic for the upcoming Equinox 
Summit:  what enhancements are needed for file transfer both at API and 
impl:  e.g. pause/resume enhancements, file caching, monitoring/transfer 
statistics collection?, support more/other providers, etc.


Scott



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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread Thomas Watson

+1

There is currently provisional API in the org.eclipse.osgi which is
currently used by update to check the certificate trust and to verify the
content of signed bundles.  I assume the jar processor API can use an
IProcessStep to which uses the API from the framework to perform this type
of check?  Or would verifying the signed content continue to be a separate
step as it is today in update?

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+1

As for doing it now, is there any benefit to waiting?
There is some amount of work that will depend on this change.  Both
update.core and pde.build will need to be updated after this change.  As
well, the p2.jarprocessor is considered HEAD for bug fixes (there is at
least https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=190064 that should be
fixed). and clients would not get these fixes until it is promoted.
While there is no particular rush on these changes, it is good to get
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In the long, there is no discussion about doing this change. However the
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+0

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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels of
Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the processor
(pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this function as a
stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the p2 work we did
just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content
from an incubator.

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate the
current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code in
the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3

Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread Andrew Niefer
+1

As for doing it now, is there any benefit to waiting?
There is some amount of work that will depend on this change.  Both 
update.core and pde.build will need to be updated after this change.  As 
well, the p2.jarprocessor is considered HEAD for bug fixes (there is at 
least https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=190064 that should be 
fixed). and clients would not get these fixes until it is promoted.
While there is no particular rush on these changes, it is good to get 
anything that might block them out of the way.

-Andrew



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In the long, there is no discussion about doing this change. However the
benefits of doing it right away are not clear to me.

+0

PaScaL


  
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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels 
of
Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the processor
(pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this function as a
stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the p2 work we did
just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content
from an incubator.

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate 
the
current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code in
the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3.3.  All we are
doing is putting it in a separate bundle. The only thing at issue is the
shape of the API and that can evolve until the API freeze just as any 
other
bundle in HEAD.

So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle.
+1 from me.

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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread Simon Kaegi
+1

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/09/2007 11:05:07 PM:

>
> As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the
> bowels of Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for
> the processor (pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having
> this function as a stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).
> So in the p2 work we did just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.
> p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
> talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course,
> the current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To
> date I think we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK
> based on content from an incubator.
>
> We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can
> graduate the current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter
> since the code in the bundle is unchanged from the original that
> shipped in 3.3.  All we are doing is putting it in a separate
> bundle. The only thing at issue is the shape of the API and that can
> evolve until the API freeze just as any other bundle in HEAD.
>
> So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the org.
> eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle.
> +1 from me.
>
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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread John Arthorne
+1. This is release-hardened code, and deserves graduation. It is in wide 
production use today in Eclipse 3.3, and in the eclipse.org jar signing 
infrastructure. It needs a bit of cleanup (such as javadoc for its API), 
but there is plenty of time for that in the 3.4 release cycle.





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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels 
of Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the 
processor (pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this 
function as a stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the 
p2 work we did just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor. 
Bug 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564   
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the 
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think 
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content 
from an incubator. 

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate 
the current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code 
in the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3.3.  All we 
are doing is putting it in a separate bundle. The only thing at issue is 
the shape of the API and that can evolve until the API freeze just as any 
other bundle in HEAD. 

So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the 
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle. 
+1 from me. 

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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread Pascal Rapicault
In the long, there is no discussion about doing this change. However the
benefits of doing it right away are not clear to me.

+0

PaScaL




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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels of
Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the processor
(pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this function as a
stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the p2 work we did
just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content
from an incubator.

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate the
current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code in
the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3.3.  All we are
doing is putting it in a separate bundle. The only thing at issue is the
shape of the API and that can evolve until the API freeze just as any other
bundle in HEAD.

So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle.
+1 from me.

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Re: [equinox-dev] [vote] graduating the new jar processor bundle

2007-09-10 Thread DJ Houghton
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As you may know, we used to have the JARProcessor embedded in the bowels of
Update manager.  Turns out that there are several uses for the processor
(pack200 support, signing, verifying, ...) and having this function as a
stand-alone bundle would be "a good thing"(tm).  So in the p2 work we did
just that and created org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor.  Bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198564
talks about updating update to use the new processor.  Of course, the
current JarProcessor bundle is in the Equinox Incubator.  To date I think
we have avoided cases where we build the mainstream SDK based on content
from an incubator.

We have two choices, we can wait to move Update over or we can graduate the
current JARProcessor bundle.  Here I popose the latter since the code in
the bundle is unchanged from the original that shipped in 3.3.  All we are
doing is putting it in a separate bundle. The only thing at issue is the
shape of the API and that can evolve until the API freeze just as any other
bundle in HEAD.

So consider this a formal call for voting on graduating the
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.jarprocessor bundle.
+1 from me.

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