Re: Removal of language features

2017-07-21 Thread Bob Myers
Let me weigh in as an Angular programmer. Angular does not "encourage use of non-standard and/or unstable language features". It encourages (indeed for all practical purposes mandates) the use of TypeScript, which like it or not is a perfectly well-defined language. The TypeScript designers walk

Re: Removal of language features

2017-07-21 Thread Isiah Meadows
Inline. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:00 PM, kai zhu wrote: > > Can you produce any data at all to back that up? I've never seen any > appetite in that regard at all. > > no hard data admittedly. i regularly attend tech meetups in hong kong. at > these gatherings, the general

Re: Removal of language features

2017-07-21 Thread kai zhu
> Can you produce any data at all to back that up? I've never seen any appetite > in that regard at all. no hard data admittedly. i regularly attend tech meetups in hong kong. at these gatherings, the general sentiment from frontend developers is that creating webapps has gotten considerably

Re: Removal of language features

2017-07-21 Thread T.J. Crowder
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:37 PM, kai zhu wrote: > that being said, es6 is such a different beast from es5, that i > think a backwards-compatible “use es5” text pragma would be > appreciated by the significant number of veteran frontend- > programmers and established

Re: Removal of language features

2017-07-21 Thread kai zhu
pragmas although not great and should be used sparingly, are still the most feasible way forward to limiting excessive features. that being said, es6 is such a different beast from es5, that i think a backwards-compatible “use es5” text pragma would be appreciated by the significant number of

Re: Re: What is the status of Weak References?

2017-07-21 Thread Isiah Meadows
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