just for record sake, I've re-explained what's the issue here in a node.js
related thread:
https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/7587#issuecomment-42796524
Best Regards
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Andrea Giammarchi
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also, on top of this ... I'd like to
On May 8, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Mathias Bynens wrote:
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:44 AM, John-David Dalton
john.david.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
Should I create a spec bug for tracking this?
Please do.
Even better, submit a strawman proposal
allen
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just wrote this down ... it takes an eye blink to agree with and adopt even
in ES6, IMHO
https://gist.github.com/WebReflection/48aecb771e61e8a3e168
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:08 AM, John-David Dalton
john.david.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
Rock, will do. Thanks!
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also, on top of this ... I'd like to add the fact that es5-sham, the drop
in everyone thinks is cool to use to support old browsers not compatible
with ES5, is entirely based on own properties since ever:
https://github.com/es-shims/es5-shim/blob/master/es5-sham.js#L310
the owns definition in
ES6 additions like Object.assign use [[OwnPropertyKeys]] for getting the
keys of `source` objects. This helps avoid the method gotchas faced by
developers previously with things like `Object.prototype.writable = true`
and `Object.defineProperty(o, 'foo', { value: 'bar' })`.
See
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Date: Thursday, May 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM
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Subject: ToPropertyDescriptor, [[HasProperty]], [[HasOwnProperty]]
ES6 additions like Object.assign use [[OwnPropertyKeys
I agree with you that this would be a much better design, but it would
break backwards compatibility with ES5, no?
There have been other changes to the spec that are technically back-compat
breaking like Object.keys('x') no longer throwing an error.
I think this change would benefit developers
that does not save you from errors when `Object.prototype.get =
function(){}` since `writable` and `get/set` cannot coexist in a descriptor
... a safe approach is to create `var descriptor = Object.create(null);`
and then set its `value` later on before assignment.
I remember early discussion
iw=say ... is way
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrea Giammarchi
andrea.giammar...@gmail.com wrote:
that does not save you from errors when `Object.prototype.get =
function(){}` since `writable` and `get/set` cannot coexist in a descriptor
... a safe approach is to create `var descriptor
OK, hasOwnProperty per descriptor would work too ... probably even easier
as spec change than having all null objects
+1 to that
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:35 PM, John-David Dalton
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I agree with you that this would be a much better design, but it would
break
On May 8, 2014, at 1:25 PM, John-David Dalton wrote:
ES6 additions like Object.assign use [[OwnPropertyKeys]] for getting the keys
of `source` objects. This helps avoid the method gotchas faced by developers
previously with things like `Object.prototype.writable = true` and
Thanks for the discussion links, Allen.
I'm I reading it right that there was no concrete resolution to the issue?
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On May 8, 2014, at 4:05 PM, John-David Dalton wrote:
Thanks for the discussion links, Allen.
I'm I reading it right that there was no concrete resolution to the issue?
Right, nothing concrete came out of it so won't happen for ES6.
Post-ES6 is always possible.
Allen
Is Post-ES6 up for discussion? Should I create a spec bug for tracking this?
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On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:44 AM, John-David Dalton
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Should I create a spec bug for tracking this?
Please do.
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