[EUG-LUG:2451] Re: Wiki

2001-08-22 Thread Seth Cohn
--- Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, TheWikiIsReallyCool yes, it is. [ReverendTrance] You don't need to bracket that. It's a WikiWord already. Hitcount you can see pretty easily already. Easy method: goto a page the page links to, look at the bottom of the page, and

[EUG-LUG:2453] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
Jacob, you are giving me a headache, man. I don't care. I just don't like deception. Let's drop it. I don't care. Yes, MySQL AB should've don't there homework. The only reason they have a domain name at all is that some well meaning fan had the foresight to lease mysql.com and immediately signed

[EUG-LUG:2454] FW: I PROTEST YOUR VIOLATION OF MYSQL GPL ~:(X){fyifyifyifyi...

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
Please, Jacob, pull that impacted hair out of your ass. I send this along simply for closure on the subject. For the record, the response from Marten Mickos of MySQL AB (below) was to a copy of Mike Furgal's reply to my protest sent to the webmaster of mySQL.org. I don't know Mike's job title at

[EUG-LUG:2455] Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Kent Loobey
Where is the Thursday night meeting going to be held? Thanks. Kent

[EUG-LUG:2456] Re: Kernel

2001-08-22 Thread Julia Coolman
Wait now, why do you need to go upgrading to sid first? My install of woody runs happily with 2.2.17 thru 2.4.8. Julia Coolman [EMAIL PROTECTED] When the revolution comes, we're going to need a very big wall. On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Rob Hudson wrote: I'm thinking it's time to upgrade from

[EUG-LUG:2457] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy

2001-08-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 01:36:52AM -0700, Dennis J. Eberl wrote: Let's not waste bandwidth with another go around, Ok? I just don't care. Ahwright. Sometimes I like to play devil's advocate. After all, I do advocate an OS that has a daemon as a mascot. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

[EUG-LUG:2458] Re: Wiki

2001-08-22 Thread Seth Cohn
--- Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as far as knowing who hit a particular page, I wanted to filter out the times I've been to my pages and see if anyone else has read any of the stuff I've written, Whats the point of writing if no one reads. as i said, I've got a apache

[EUG-LUG:2459] Re: NFS

2001-08-22 Thread Ralph Zeller
Bob, I ran a little speed-test to compare nfs and samba, using a single 65M file, as described in the NFS-Howto. In summary, the file took 19sec to read off the local disk, 23sec to read from another host using nfs, and 27sec to read from another host using samba. Looks like it's time to

[EUG-LUG:2460] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread larry a price
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Kent Loobey wrote: Where is the Thursday night meeting going to be held? Thanks. Kent There's two of them, at the present time. One meeting at efn, is focused on doing the necessary prep for having a classroom full of linux based public access terminals. so far

[EUG-LUG:2461] Sparc Debian potato and apache 1.3.9 Woes

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
I am at a loss. I have a default install of apache on my sparc debain potato install. I have modified the conf verry little (added a virtual host, and corrected some document locations for Premierelink policy). I didn't touch the port settings. However, instead of being avaliable on port 80 (the

[EUG-LUG:2462] Re: Sparc Debian potato and apache 1.3.9 Woes

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
Never mind. I had Listen 216.36.9.7 instead of Listen 216.36.9.7:80 On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:48:30AM -0700, Christopher Maujean wrote: I am at a loss. I have a default install of apache on my sparc debain potato install. I have modified the conf verry little (added a virtual

[EUG-LUG:2463] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
Bless you, Jacob. Does BSD still have a better TCP/IP stack than Linux? Dennis From: Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:19:34 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EUG-LUG:2457] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy On Wed, Aug 22, 2001

[EUG-LUG:2464] Re: Wiki

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:25:40AM -0700, Seth Cohn wrote: --- Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as far as knowing who hit a particular page, I wanted to filter out the times I've been to my pages and see if anyone else has read any of the stuff I've written, Whats

[EUG-LUG:2465] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
That was a nicely informative, useful reply. I have no wish to be hit by the drunken bus of progress, but aren't your plans at EFN a little ambitious if what you are doing is trying to attract joe public to free *nix as an alternative to Windows? I mean who, who is not already a member of

[EUG-LUG:2466] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Tim Howe
my veiwI think the Linux lab is sort of a test case for EFN to see if they can get out from under the oppressive yoke of Microsoft. They are a non-proffit organization and as such need every penny they have. They are also a free speech oganization I suppose; they help bridge the 'digital

[EUG-LUG:2467] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy

2001-08-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 11:24:26AM -0700, Dennis J. Eberl wrote: Bless you, Jacob. Does BSD still have a better TCP/IP stack than Linux? Heheheh!!! Hahahahah!!! Ooohh, yah. You like to argue as much as I, eh? Why don't you ask your friend, Blinky? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EUG-LUG:2468] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
Below. From: Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:14:01 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EUG-LUG:2467] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 11:24:26AM -0700, Dennis J. Eberl wrote: Bless you, Jacob. Does BSD

[EUG-LUG:2469] Re: Wiki

2001-08-22 Thread larry a price
I'm interested in the idea of using the wiki as a meeting-ground for different pieces of code that various people write, i've actually thought of using python's httplib to write a wikipage auto-update feature. but it'd be nice to have a feature to specify a url and format and have the wiki just

[EUG-LUG:2471] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:07:36PM -0700, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:07:57PM -0700, Dennis J. Eberl wrote: I don't really care very much about this issue, but my opinion is that using mySQL as part or their domain name is deceptive Maybe I misunderstand capitalism, but

[EUG-LUG:2472] Port 6010

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
Was trippin on this for awhile, but i found out that it is created by sshd when a user logs via ssh, when X11 Forwarding is enabled in sshd_conf. -- Christopher Maujean IT DirectorPremierelink Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.premierelink.com

[EUG-LUG:2473] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Tim Howe
That sounds pretty amazing. Where did you learn about this? I would like to show my office managers.. Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher Maujean Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EUG-LUG:2474] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
Huh, thought it had already happend but can't find the article anymore. heres one about the beginning of the process, from early 2000 http://fyi.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/03/08/france.open.source/ On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 01:11:21PM -0700, Tim Howe wrote: That sounds pretty amazing. Where

[EUG-LUG:2475] Re: NuSphere vs MySQL GPL controversy

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
You know, this is all very interesting, and I would love to sit down over a beer and talk about these issues with you, but don't you think this is all a bit off topic at this point? Dennis From: Patrick R. Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:47:30

[EUG-LUG:2476] off subject, but may be funny...

2001-08-22 Thread Justin Bengtson
i just received AOL's new offer in the mail (to my workplace... go figure...) so, being the destructive little heterosexual hairless ape that i am, i tried to snap the offending CD in half before depositing it in my local refuse container. AOL's CDs are tough! i bent the thing into a nice

[EUG-LUG:2477] Re: off subject, but may be funny...

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
A couple of years ago my dad gave _every one_ in the family a set of 8 aol cd's nicely wrapped with a handmade case. He called them the AOL Coaster Set. ReverendTrance On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 03:56:00PM -0700, Justin Bengtson wrote: i just received AOL's new offer in the mail (to my

[EUG-LUG:2480] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
Yup, this confirms my suspicion that the French are _totally_ fos. parlepoopdeeyea!beakupgogglesonupupandaway}(X)%~ From: Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:33:25 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EUG-LUG:2474] Re: Thursdays

[EUG-LUG:2481] RedHat 7.0 installation question...

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
I'm -- for reasons I'd prefer not to have to defend (the devil you know is...) reinstalling RedHat 7.0 on my only Linux box. I remember that 7.0 or 7.1 had a flawed compiler or glibc library or something that was so serious even Linus himself felt compelled to comment on it. Does anyone remember

[EUG-LUG:2483] Re: RedHat 7.0 installation question...

2001-08-22 Thread Garl R. Grigsby
There is an updated gcc avalible off of their site. This was fixed in 7.1. Garl Dennis J. Eberl wrote: I'm -- for reasons I'd prefer not to have to defend (the devil you know is...) reinstalling RedHat 7.0 on my only Linux box. I remember that 7.0 or 7.1 had a flawed compiler or glibc

[EUG-LUG:2484] Re: RedHat 7.0 installation question...

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
don't use 7.0 If you must to use redhat, make a descision, 6.2 or 7.1 don't use 7.0 as far as the devil goes.. thats a freebsd thing. On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:16:37PM -0700, Dennis J. Eberl wrote: I'm -- for reasons I'd prefer not to have to defend (the devil you know is...) reinstalling

[EUG-LUG:2485] Re: RedHat 7.0 installation question...

2001-08-22 Thread Dennis J. Eberl
Thanks, Christopher. I will use 7.0 just long enough to upgrade to 7.1. From: Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:13:22 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EUG-LUG:2484] Re: RedHat 7.0 installation question... don't use 7.0 If

[EUG-LUG:2486] Re: loop devices and raw files created with dd.

2001-08-22 Thread Christopher Maujean
interesting. i did: mknod /dev/loop22 b 7 0 dd of=/tmp/archive if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=65536 /sbin/losetup /dev/loop21 /tmp/archive mkdir /archive /sbin/mkfs /dev/loop22 mount /dev/loop22 /archive cp -r /etc /archive unmount /archive cd /tmp gzip archive # it was just over a meg,

[EUG-LUG:2487] Re: off subject, but may be funny...

2001-08-22 Thread Bob Miller
Justin Bengtson wrote: AOL's CDs are tough! i bent the thing into a nice half circle several times and it refuses to break! Stick it in the microwave instead. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL

[EUG-LUG:2488] Re: RedHat 7.0 installation question...

2001-08-22 Thread Garl R. Grigsby
Dennis, If need be I have the 7.1 iso. I can burn you cds if you want. Garl Dennis J. Eberl wrote: Thanks, Christopher. I will use 7.0 just long enough to upgrade to 7.1. From: Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:13:22

[EUG-LUG:2489] Re: loop devices and raw files created with dd.

2001-08-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:57:44PM -0700, Christopher Maujean wrote: am I missing some important part of the equation? an international kernel and --encryption ? kerneli.org, encryptionhowto.sourceforge.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EUG-LUG:2490] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread mro
Of course I'm gonna post!! Nice foresight Larry. REBEL LUGheads unite and all you dyslexics untie. Who, what, when, where, and why the heck not? Yes, you all are welcome to drop in here at: 1725 5th St. Apt 105 (FountainCourt apts) just below Qst here in Spfd. Things get going at 6:30 and last

[EUG-LUG:2491] Re: NFS

2001-08-22 Thread Garl R. Grigsby
Bob, I saw the earlier posting earlier and thought I would throw my $0.02 in as well. I ran the test using the following four machines: eugsrv1- Dual PII 350, 512 MB Ram, Intel 82559 Fast Ethernet NIC, LVD-SE Drives lnxets1 - PPro200, 196 Mb Ram, 3Com 3c595 100baseTx - SCSI2 Drives lnxets2

[EUG-LUG:2492] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread James S. Kaplan
At 11:54 AM 8/22/2001 -0700, Timmy wrote: my veiwI think the Linux lab is sort of a test case for EFN to see if they can get out from under the oppressive yoke of Microsoft. They are a non-proffit organization and as such need every penny they have. They are also a free speech oganization I

[EUG-LUG:2493] Re: sendmail

2001-08-22 Thread Seth Cohn
--- Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to go to exim, but i just don't have the time to learn a new mail system at this point. So, I'd like to keep up with current versions. Current released (non-beta) version of sendmail is in the 8.11.6 range, but potato is at 8.9.

[EUG-LUG:2494] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 07:59:44PM -0700, James S. Kaplan wrote: Oh puhlezeEFN is as much a lefty tax break scam as it is a lesbian and queer gold-star e-mail address badge. ? OPN/EFN, etc. said years ago one tenet was free/cheap access for the masses... Today? Liberal pillars of society

[EUG-LUG:2495] Re: RedHat 7.0 installation question...

2001-08-22 Thread mro
Is it me or is the the mail all FUBAR today? If you're going to wait to do RedHat then you may as well hold off another 2 weeks and 7.2 will be out. I already have 7.1.93 and it looks pretty spiffy but I'll have the ISOs to 7.2 within a day or two of them being available. On Wednesday 22

[EUG-LUG:2496] Re: Thursdays meeting...

2001-08-22 Thread Seth Cohn
Patrick, just ignore him. If Kaplan doesn't get enough complaining and whining in his life, he just finds something new to complain about. On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 07:59:44PM -0700, James S. Kaplan wrote: Oh puhlezeEFN is as much a lefty tax break scam as it is a lesbian and queer