Re: [Eug-lug]Naked on the Net (you guys already KNEW this!)

2003-02-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:06:09PM -0800, Tim Howe wrote: I work at an ISP. People have tried stuff like this. We laugh. Perhaps most ISP employees are much more gullible than we are? We didn't even want to give this info to the Secret Service when they wanted it one time. We only did

Re: [Eug-lug]Naked on the Net (you guys already KNEW this!)

2003-02-05 Thread Tim Howe
That's funny =] On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 04:47:56 -0800 Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:06:09PM -0800, Tim Howe wrote: I work at an ISP. People have tried stuff like this. We laugh. Perhaps most ISP employees are much more gullible than we are? We didn't

[Eug-lug]staroffice 6.1 beta

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Huot
Sun is now offering a beta of their Staroffice 6.1 for small businesses. You can apply now for the test which starts on 3 March. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/beta/index.html -- ^ ^ (*) (*) = \ / = o o ?

[Eug-lug]Signed Debian packages

2003-02-05 Thread Bob Miller
This week's Debian Weekly News[0] has an item. [0] http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/05/ New Debian Archive Key. Anthony Towns announced[1] the archive key[2] for 2003, which is used to sign the Release file for the main, non-US and security archives. This key can be used with

Re: [Eug-lug]Signed Debian packages

2003-02-05 Thread Seth Cohn
--- Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep getting this feeling that if I'd just sit down and devote five years of my life to reading every scrap of Debian information on the web, I'd stop feeling completely lost in this distro... HEhehehe, as compared to which distro? Redhat? Every

[Eug-lug]WebDav and KDE

2003-02-05 Thread Tim Howe
Has anybody used KDE's WebDav functionality? How does this work and where can I find info on it? My searches came up nil. Perhaps it is trivial? I want to test out mod_dav with something... TimH ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Eug-lug]WebDav and KDE

2003-02-05 Thread Linux Rocks !
I found these pages that had interesting info about dav, but I didnt find anything specific to KDE. http://www.webdav.org/projects/ http://www.webdav.org/mod_dav/ http://www.webdav.org/other/faq.html Jamie On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:28 am, Tim Howe wrote: : Has anybody used KDE's WebDav

Re: [Eug-lug]WebDav and KDE

2003-02-05 Thread Tim Howe
Yeah, read all this... TimH On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:15:13 -0800 Linux Rocks ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found these pages that had interesting info about dav, but I didnt find anything specific to KDE. http://www.webdav.org/projects/ http://www.webdav.org/mod_dav/

Re: [Eug-lug]mail to root under postfix ?

2003-02-05 Thread Horst
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Darren Shepard wrote: ... Any mail client (gui or not) can have security bugs (eg. pine has a history of exploitable buffer overflows). ... Convinced ! -- Thanks for clarifying :-) Also thanks to Cory for the link. Indeed, http://www.postfix.com/faq.html is very well

[Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
I'm glad you posted the google-watch links, that's very interesting information. I am concerned by the popular belief that IP addresses somehow identify a single computer, however!!! In many cases, a single IP address is shared (say, via NAT) by dozens or even hundreds of computers. It can also

[Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste yeni yil firsati 1 Kutu Lens 35 Milyon USTELIK ADRESE TESLIM KACIRMAYIN_____

2003-02-05 Thread eug-lug
En ucuz lensler icin lutfen tiklayin. Bir telefonla adrese teslim. http://www.akdenizgoz.com Akdeniz Goz Merkezi FevzipaĂľa No:73 Fatih0 212 635 74 74 Listeden cikmak icin [EMAIL PROTECTED]adresine bos mail gonderiniz

[Eug-lug]WebDav and KDE

2003-02-05 Thread Tim Howe
Has anybody used KDE's WebDav functionality? How does this work and where can I find info on it? My searches came up nil. Perhaps it is trivial? I want to test out mod_dav with something... TimH ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Eug-lug]WebDav and KDE

2003-02-05 Thread Bob Miller
Tim Howe wrote: Has anybody used KDE's WebDav functionality? How does this work and where can I find info on it? My searches came up nil. Perhaps it is trivial? I want to test out mod_dav with something... Did you see this discussion? http://dot.kde.org/1011836990/1011901285/ It

Re: [Eug-lug]WebDav and KDE

2003-02-05 Thread Tim Howe
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:01:19 -0800 Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you see this discussion? http://dot.kde.org/1011836990/1011901285/ Yes. But I don't see this anywhere It looks like you need to: (1) find/build a webdav-enabled server (2) open a

[Eug-lug]weirdness

2003-02-05 Thread Rob Hudson
Can anyone else confirm this behavior... Open a URL to http://www.tuxedo.org - you get redirected to some other site, usually dealing with ethics, the eff, or the fsf. Similarly, http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr does the same. I was jumping off of google trying to look up something in the jargon

Re: [Eug-lug]weirdness

2003-02-05 Thread Linux Rocks !
I just tried it, and got re-dired to debian, then publicknowlege... I suspect its a randomized redir page fun if nothing else... completely frustrating if you need something from tuxedo.org I suppose! Jamie On Wednesday 05 February 2003 02:09 pm, Rob Hudson wrote: : Can anyone else confirm

Re: [Eug-lug]weirdness

2003-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
I was redirected to publicknowledge.org Next attempt I was redirected to techp.org Then back to publicknowledge.org, then fsf.org It's not a dns trick, it resolves only to the same dsl line: $ host tuxedo.org tuxedo.org has address 66.92.236.83 $ host 66.92.236.83 83.236.92.66.in-addr.arpa domain

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
WTH, is efn running an open relay? Received: from drmobil ([62.29.124.98]) by clavin.efn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h15IMqY11101 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:22:53 -0800 (PST) or is *this* the more important header? Received: (qmail 26248 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
An open relay means a server that re-sends outbound mail. If EFN was a open relay server then it would allow mail incoming from somewhere being sent to petersen-arne.com for instance. This message was sent to EFN thus is not being relayed. Observe: $ telnet clavin.efn.org 25 Trying

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
That's [at least] twice in one day, that you used telnet to prove your point, Cory! Pretty good for an ancient and insecure protocol. Can you prove any technical points using a floppy disk, next? ; ) thanks for the clarification (I know it wasn't open relay, but it seemed odd that the

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
echo Using Telnet as an authentication protocol over an untrusted network is insecure. However using the tool '/usr/bin/telnet' is a great way to connect one's keyboard with a tcp port on an ip address. It is ancient as far as unix goes, but is not outdated. I would go as far to say that one

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Larry Price
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Ben Barrett wrote: thanks for the clarification (I know it wasn't open relay, but it seemed odd that the message's source wasn't evident to me)... Yes Thank You Cory. twas' in fact one of the two listowners (yes the apache logs ratted out your IP address and you do connect

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: echo Using Telnet as an authentication protocol over an untrusted network is insecure. However using the tool '/usr/bin/telnet' is a great way to connect one's keyboard with a tcp port on an ip address. It is ancient as far as unix goes, but is not outdated[]

Re: [Eug-lug]weirdness

2003-02-05 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: I was redirected to publicknowledge.org Next attempt I was redirected to techp.org Then back to publicknowledge.org, then fsf.org It's not a dns trick, it resolves only to the same dsl line: $ host tuxedo.org tuxedo.org has address 66.92.236.83 $ host 66.92.236.83

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: An open relay means a server that re-sends outbound mail. If EFN was a open relay server then it would allow mail incoming from somewhere being sent to petersen-arne.com for instance. This message was sent to EFN thus is not being relayed. Observe: $ telnet

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
Its a new file system kbob. bsfs. I haven't made an fsck.bsfs yet. But it should work fine for reading and writing. Here's how to read it: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=`tty` bs=1024 count=1 Cory On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:58:33PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Cory Petkovsek wrote: echo Using Telnet as

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:38:02PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Cory Petkovsek wrote: An open relay means a server that re-sends outbound mail. If EFN was a open relay server then it would allow mail incoming from somewhere being sent to petersen-arne.com for instance. This message was sent

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Linux Rocks !
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[Eug-lug]TiVo series 2

2003-02-05 Thread Joseph Carter
I kinda wish I had read the various TiVo forums before buying my series 2 TiVo, since I may not have done so had I read about the measures employed to prevent hacking the box. (Not that reading the AVS forum would have helped anyway, given that half the idiots there swear they read that you can

Re: [Eug-lug]Signed Debian packages

2003-02-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:28:18AM -0800, Seth Cohn wrote: Every user of testing knows that he must read debian-security-announce and if needed install fixes from unstable since it can take an arbitrary amount of time until security fixes from unstable enter testing (most likely none

[Eug-lug]Re: Kontakt Lenste... and M4D 73LN37 5K1LLZ

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
On more occasions, I [wish to] use a hammer, than telnet! How could I ever reach my full potential without telnet? Maybe by hand-crafting packets... maybe by learning more about microsoft's software... Maybe I should just put the keyboard down, and start exploring some REAL potential. Of course

[Eug-lug]telnet vs. authentication question, amateur packet, and /.

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
I thought I had heard or read that telnet can use plug-in authentication methods? On that topic, there was a recent review of a book called _Radius_ about the protocol by that name, on IBM DeveloperWorks: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/wi-lounge10.html?ca=dnt-44 DW is a great

[Eug-lug]Re: TiVo series 2

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
Hey, check out some cool linux-based software: http://mythtv.org/ I was reading some threads online recently, IIRC on slashdot, and most folks said that among so many of the linux PVR projects, they either didn't work or were entirely vaporware (er, in planning stages). MythTV apparently

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net

2003-02-05 Thread Horst
Ben, you put together some interesting thoughts and links (I just finished the motherjones article and had to resist the temptation of quoting about half of it right here. Instead, let's get concrete and ask the best ISP in town (EFN) a few questions: ~ for EFN ~~~

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:28:40PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: It is ancient as far as unix goes, but is not outdated. I would go as far to say that one cannot be a good network administrator without using it on occasion. If one is operating without it then one missing part of one's

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Kontakt Lenste... and M4D 73LN37 5K1LLZ

2003-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 05:33:46PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: On more occasions, I [wish to] use a hammer, than telnet! How could I ever reach my full potential without telnet? Maybe by hand-crafting packets... maybe by learning more about microsoft's software... Maybe I should just put the

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: TiVo series 2

2003-02-05 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 07:22:13PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: Granted, encoding is being done by the CPU, but 2GHz boxen can be had for $400 now! Actually, i have been led to believe that 2GHz boxen have been available for $400 for quite some time ; pretty much since production 2GHz chips were

Re: [Eug-lug]Kontakt Lenste...

2003-02-05 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: As it should work. Here the mail server is not relaying. It is accepting inbound mail. It doesn't care where it's from as long as the domain exists. It is then the mailing list software that determines if the email is allowed through or not, probably based upon

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: TiVo series 2 vs. MythTV

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
Ahh, yes. I noticed the prices have *now* broken that barrier... The main developer stated that 1.7 or 1.8 GHz should be an expensive enough CPU to do simultaneous encoding and decoding (whilst reading and writing from the disk, I'd assume!). That was the important bit, to be able to actually

Re: [Eug-lug]WebDav and KDE

2003-02-05 Thread Bob Miller
Tim Howe wrote: But I don't see this anywhere (2) open a Konqueror window and type a URL: webdav://server/page?parameters... Ah, that would be because I was wrong. I don't know how you access a webdav page using KDE. -- Bob Miller Kbob