Re: the latest splat

2004-09-10 Thread DPrice
Michael, Yes, aerogel is the name. And Twin Palms, apparently, is the place to hang out, though Sharon and I met on the Internet. We're getting married this fall after being together for a year and a half. I'm told they might have used the kind of balloons they used on the recent Martian

Re: the latest splat

2004-09-10 Thread Michael Turner
I'm told they might have used the kind of balloons they used on the recent Martian landings, but that would have greatly increased the weight -- and therefore the cost -- of what was supposed to be a relatively inexpensive return system. But I bet they're rethinking that now. Maybe the

Re: the latest splat

2004-09-10 Thread Michael Turner
Jeff Bell is a bit depressed about this whole thing. http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-04z.html He slightly disparages mid-air helicopter retrieval, even though that seemed to be one of the bits of good news in this story: it can be done. He also has some rather unkind words for

Fw: Genesis Mission Status: Conducting Inventory of Canister

2004-09-10 Thread LARRY KLAES
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The Andromeda Strain (was Re: the latest splat)

2004-09-10 Thread LARRY KLAES
I am rather surprised atBell's dumping upon of the 1971 SF film The Andromeda Strain, which is one of the very few SF films I have ever seen that strove hard to get the science and technology right (for the early 1970s, of course). And I thought the scientists in the film acted like

Re: the latest splat

2004-09-10 Thread James McEnanly
In the early manned space program, all of the capsules landed at sea. How well would a water landing work? --- Michael Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm told they might have used the kind of balloons they used on the recent Martian landings, but that would have greatly increased the

Re: the latest splat

2004-09-10 Thread Joe Latrell
That a good idea A system can be designed to use a streamlined capsule that could hit the water at rather high velocity without jarring the payload. Make it bouyant and you get it back when it floats to the surface. If something goes wrong and it cracks when hitting the water, you would at

Re: the latest splat

2004-09-10 Thread Gary McMurtry
The question would be can you design a vehicle to transition from air to water at 200+ miles per hour with minimum shock? Shape it to dive like a duck, then come back up to float on surface, with finder beacons. That a good idea A system can be designed to use a streamlined capsule that could

Fw: Genesis Scientists Bouncing Back From Hard Landing

2004-09-10 Thread LARRY KLAES
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Re: the latest splat

2004-09-10 Thread James McEnanly
Or rather a cone, weighted so that the apex points more or less in the direction of travel. Think of a high diver --- Gary McMurtry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question would be can you design a vehicle to transition from air to water at 200+ miles per hour with minimum shock? Shape

Re: The Andromeda Strain (was Re: the latest splat)

2004-09-10 Thread Michael Turner
Michael, Larry, et al., I didn't know that Jeff has apparently retired. That's how his articles are signed - he has at least retired from space science in some sense. Isn't he still on the faculty though? He writes a good article, but why he thinks there are no Mars meteorites is beyond