Sep 11 and the WMD threat (was Re: mass drivers for earth-to-orbit cargo lift (was Re: SPACE: Loss of the Satur)

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Turner
I should clarify: when I said that Sep 11 cast a shadow over the prospects for cheap (unmanned) space launch schemes, I never meant to suggest that *I* thought this was a big deal. Only that many people would be inclined to think so. In a democracy, what many people think (rightly or not) makes a

The Legend Continues (was Re: micro-nano-pico engines (was Re: Prometheus propulsion))

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Turner
Jack, you might have it all wrong about the Mexicans stealing a march on us with their secret launch facility in Cuba. I mean, maybe they *think* they are stealing a march, but they are actually clueless. Really, they are way behind the game. Last night we were treated to quite a sight: Mars rig

RE: mass drivers for earth-to-orbit cargo lift (was Re: SPACE: Loss of the Satur

2003-09-09 Thread John Sheff
Yep. That's what worked for Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. It got them into the rocket launching business ... John Sheff 12 Inman Street #64 Cambridge, MA 02139 617-547-1353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Reeve, Jack W

RE: mass drivers for earth-to-orbit cargo lift (was Re: SPACE: Loss of the Satur

2003-09-09 Thread Reeve, Jack W.
The best launch platform for any significant space exploration venture is a safe and secure country buffered by an integrated intelligence and military community rendered supremely capable and thoughtfully marshaled internationally, thereby moving the theater of conflict between ourselves and t

Re: mass drivers for earth-to-orbit cargo lift (was Re: SPACE: Loss of the Satur

2003-09-09 Thread LARRY KLAES
You know what's really frustrating?  That I currently live in an otherwise wonderful country that has a government that has messed up badly and left 9 million unemployed while asking for $87 billion on top of the $79 billion they already got to allegedly clean up a mess they created!  And here we

RE:Fate of the "last" S-5

2003-09-09 Thread Schmidt Mickey Civ 34 EDG/34ES
The urban legend gets new life. This started out as a JATO unit strapped to a car in New Mexico. Now S-5 has taken its place. Mickey D. Schmidt, Dir. USAF Academy Planetarium Battlespace Awareness Warfighting Laboratory USAF Academy, CO 80840 == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailin

RE: micro-nano-pico engines (was Re: Prometheus propulsion)

2003-09-09 Thread Reeve, Jack W.
Sorry to put the final nail in the coffin of the S5, but I have it on good account that the last existing 3rd stage engine, for which there are no existing plans or other prototypes, was obliterated in a high speed impact. Seems an LSD-addicted grad student/intern working at the Space Center here

micro-nano-pico engines (was Re: Prometheus propulsion)

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Turner
As long as we're still off-topic, please note an admirable catalogue of proposed micro-/nano-/pico-thruster technologies, found in the following paper: A Systems Study on How to Dispose of Fleets of Small Satellites Jason M. Andringa, Daniel E. Hastings http://ssl.mit.edu/publications/t