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The reason that we are discovering gas giant sized worlds at such a great pace may be that with our current search methods, such worlds are relatively easy to find. It is like taking a census of fish in a lake with a net with 5 inch gaps.
I also think that we may yet find a somewhat Earth-like
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> cylinder? If so,
> >given the rarity of atmosphere, an orbit could be
> achieved where the
> >craft could be caused to fly through the eject
> Old Soviet nuclear powered satellites leaked a trail
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As I understand it, the recent findings by the rovers
indicate deposits of gypsum and salt, which dissolve
in water, but not in supercritical CO2
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> more recently under attack
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embered that there was stuff on July 20 about the moon landing but few heard this quote, and fewer cared.Gregg==You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/Sincerely
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y the late Carl Sagan, and the first financed by a media outlet, Cosmos Studios, a science-based entertainment company run by Ann Druyan, Saganâs widow and collaborator.
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legend?> > > > >> > > > > If these claims are true, does anyone know who is most directly> > > > > responsible for the termination of the knowledge of how to build> > > > > a Saturn 5 -- and whether they are still alive -- because I'd> > > > > certainly like to contact them and give them a piece of my mind.> > > > >> > > > > (A related but slightly different conversation vector is whetheror> > > > > not Russia still has the ability to build the Energia since it is> > > > > the most recently flown rocket that might be considered to have> > > > > heavy lift capacity.)> > > > >> > > > > Robert> > > > >> Sincerely
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http://vesuvius.jsc.nasa.gov/er_er/html/sprint/index.htm
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/assembly/sprint/
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ack to the surface
without having to leave the vicinity.
So what do you think? Think we can convince a space agency
to look into this more? Think we can design a detailed prototype?
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I've seen similar documentaries. They tend to move into them.
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t; life swimming in the seas of Europa!> >> > Larry> >> >> > - Original Message -> > From: wmarcus> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:51 PM> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: What about intelligent life on Europa?> >> > Wel
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It wpuld probably on the order of an octopus, which on Earth, are about as smart as cats. They communicate by changing body shape and color.
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Personally i think it is very possible for intelligent life forms to evolve naturally on Europa. Man is just finding ou
Ditto for Mars and Venus. In fact from what I've heard, the area just above the cloud-tops on Venus has an atmospheric pressure equal to that of Earth at Sea Level.
John Sheff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lack of atmosphere *is* a big deal. Its my understanding that zeppelins work on the pri
I seem to recall an article, which I will post later, about how it is easier to go between Lagrange points than low planetary orbits. A station at the L-1 point would be an ideal place from which to launch probes to other planets.
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See the first article:
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Ist there a stable plutonium isotope?
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http://www.spacedaily.com/news/materials-02zu.htmlGainesville - Dec 2, 2002 - Scientists have discovered superconductivity in a most unlikely place: the
How well would these things work inside a fusion reactor?
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Fom today's Space.com "AstroNotes":_Solar Cell BreakthroughA material that allows creation of "full spectrum" solar cells has beenaccidentally uncovered. The unexpected discove
For all we know, there might be those out there who would consider this as we would an offer of a packet of free vegetable seeds.
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I offer to the Universe fresh primal post doctorate DNA and you want me to give money to donate my precious body imprint?!
I do n
Weren't the Deep Space 2 probes on the Mars Polar lander geophones?
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Message- Original Message -From: Thomas GreenTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:15 PMSubject: RE: Listening to EuropaThis might be flawed thinking. Assuming the
e station into orbit.
"By Western and even former-Soviet standards, the Chinese manned space program is progressing at a painfully slow rate," Clark notes. "But then again, historically, the Chinese have always taken their time with programs and have taken little notice of the expectat
I have found this article on the Chinese Manned Space program (Shenzou) They seem to be going very slowly, as compared to similar stages in the US and Russian programs.
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political. I doubt the US Government in
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Consider that like most government agencies,NASA has to make decisions that are politically correct. If an agency fails to put an important operation in the proper congressional district, there will be trouble.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTE
It would also be a good idea to lay these blocks on a sloope, to simulate Europan gravity, rather than using full Terrestrial gravity.
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That's no joke. Unlike everyone else who would just go to Wal-Mart to pickup a printer stand, they had us custom make som
Why not stack blocks of ice? It would be a lot simpler than hauling our gear out to some ice-bound wasteland.
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Does Dr. Drake mean right now, or over the age of the MWG? It could mean the difference between sending diplomats on our first intertellar mission, or sending archaeologists
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menon, where a
> progenitor must eat its
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> If our prospective star-faring species is truly
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"Put the lodge over there, and a chair lift there..."
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You're right. The Greco-Roman Pantheon is just about exhausted. I am wondering what we are going to do when we get serious about naming extrasolar planets.
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http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=9446This is a measurement using the technique -- whose acc
If Cruithne's orbit is determine by both the Earth and Luna, it would be more like a Trojan asteroid than a moon.
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Not to nitpick, but doesn't a moon have to orbit the planet? It seems like Cruithne should be designated "co-dependent minor planet". :) A
You may want to just put the entire website in babelfish.
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Does anybody know how to make that damned "World Keyboard" at the Babelfishsite actually switch to another keyboard setup than English? I'm trying totranslate an article on Beagle 2 at "Der Zeit" into
When I read about the Gaia hypothesis, I think about Adam Smith's 'invisible hand'. One might think of the ecosystem
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I have to agree mightily with Tom Green's thoughts on Gaia and the human "condition". To think that Life cares about mass extinctions is
Microwave ovens are more recent, circa 1947. They arrived in homes in the mid to late 70's.
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Actually, it is a small fringe that tends to protest whenever NASA lanches a nuclear powered probe. I think they just enjoy carrying signs and shouting their lungs out. It would take a Jedi knight to convince them.
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Considering that the first space tourist was sent up despite NASA's vehement objections, it would seem more likely that the Dutch would go up with the program with a proven track record as being friendly to tourists.
The Russians
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Rather than de-orbitibg, why not sell it, as Mir Corp had with the Mir Station. The ISS is in somewhat better shape than Mir was at the time.
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We have seen two US Mars Penetrator missions. Unfortunatly, we lost contact with them
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. We should use it just to annoy all the protesters that came out for the Cassini 4. An Earth gravity assist would be safe as long as we don't let the same people who calculated the last Mars "lander" do it this time. They seem to have the very hard trigonometry and
I found this in the Astronomy picture of the day site. While this is Callisto, not Europa, I thin that it is somewhat appropriate.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap010828.html
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I am wondering why we consider ourselves to be such a delicacy to Extraterrestrials. Most of the predators on this planet consider us a food of last resort. Sharks take a bite or too, and when they discover that we are not seals, swim away. Big cats eat us only when they cannot find their normal p
The physics of doing this are straight Newtonian, but the engineering is Vorlon
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The fact that we can feel remorse for the lossof the
species might be a sign ofa more mature attitude as a
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I wouldn't even justify calling it 'fiction'. Good fiction can instruct and inspire. This program did neither. Even the old "Lost in Space" series, helped to inspire the current crop of astronauts, as well as introduce a first rate composer to the world of robots, rogues and ray-guns.
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Does anyone know some good websites that defend NASAagainst all those accusations that we never reallylanded on the moon, etc. I need to direct anirritating friend to them . . . thanks.
I have seen 2010, and read the book on the production design. Much of the design is based on Shuttle and Salyut hardware, which the 2001 esigners didn't have as a model. Also Syd Mead, the designer in the later film, used a submarine design philosophy when laying out the Leonov.
What is really tel
I recently read an article in the BBC about a computer that talks like a baby. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1194000/1194565.stm
It reminded me of a story by Isaac Asimov about a robot that developed pathways in its brain, rather than having them built in. The similarities to th
It could be that Earth is a rarity, a planet orbitting a G-class star without a larger planet. The civilizations that grow in the light of the red dwarves might not think to look here for life. After all, we have a short-lived star, and our gas giants are too far out to be habitable.
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a group of schoolchildren there. He
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> the whole class to Florida to view a shuttle launch
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this sort.I'm surpirised they haven't blamed OJ's
legal troubles on his appearance inthis movie.
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Capricorn One is not a true proof that the Apollo landings were faked, as the special effects crew had Apollo footage to emulate for their fictional Mars landing. Rather, note the way the Lunar explorers in 2001 moved about, as compared to the actual Apollo crews. I have seen the movie, and notice
k"? (Of course, given
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nderlying tenet of nearly every
> Earthside religion? Presume that
> biotechnology advances, that it is possible to
> create an artificial human, an
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mean that
we have to classify communications satellites,
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> whether it has learned to override its more basic
> instincts. Bear in
> mind, too, the variation in character that can exist
> between individuals
> within a species. Will the first representative of
> an alien race that
> we encounter be a Hitler or a Gandhi?
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> More on
It was Vladimir Komarov, aboard Soyuz 1, due to parachute failure.
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One other Soviet cosmonaut died on reentry. Name escapes me at present - wasit Soyuz 1?; but Gagarin - who had attempted to prevent the flight, as itwas known on the factory floor t
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I'm surprised they didn't stick it in the patas monkey enclosure at the local zoo. If the woodland zoo had chimps, so much the better
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No more than the availibility of lifeboats makes companies less careful with their ships
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