RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-13 Thread Reeve, Jack W.
2004 13:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? Good points, and I'd forgotten about the idea of a string of puck transceivers. They would probably be distributed so that if one fails, the whole network doesn't go down. OK, here's a really dumb idea

RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-13 Thread Paul Lavin
Message - From: Reeve, Jack W. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:06 PM Subject: RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? We're re-inventing the wheel here. Seems that there was a plan wherein a series of puck-like transceivers could be left

RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-12 Thread Schmidt Mickey D Civ HQ USAFA/DF
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Lavin Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? I'm not sure that the whales communicate over 100s of miles but their vocalisations can probably be heard that far away. Let's not forget

RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-12 Thread Paul Lavin
]] On Behalf Of Paul Lavin Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? I'm not sure that the whales communicate over 100s of miles but their vocalisations can probably be heard that far away. Let's not forget

Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-12 Thread Michael Turner
PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Paul Lavin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:35 PM Subject: RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? A skeptic that is not an acute observer of life? (Europan or otherwise) ;-)Obviously

Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-12 Thread Gary McMurtry
Title: Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? Paul's humorous example was merely aimed at faulty processor speeds after the signals were transmitted, they got there at appropriately fast rates. Seriously folks, we already have the capability to signal process out random noise, so

RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-12 Thread Sean McCutcheon
Title: Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? Some good ideas being floated around here... but if thelander was prepared for the worst-case depth of 100 km and the tether was only 2 cm thick (which probably would not be good enough without exotic materials), that would

RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-12 Thread Reeve, Jack W.
-From: Sean McCutcheon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday 13 October 2004 02:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? Some good ideas being floated around here... but if thelander was prepared for the worst-case depth of 100 km and the tether

Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-12 Thread Michael Turner
ainly deep enough. -michael - Original Message - From: Reeve, Jack W. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:06 PM Subject: RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? We're re-inventing the wheel here. Seems that there was a pl

RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-11 Thread Paul Lavin
as Michael T for a few years. Jack W. Reeve -Original Message- From: LARRY KLAES [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday 09 October 2004 16:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? So maybe we can drop a large flat antenna on Icepick's landing

RE: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-10 Thread Reeve, Jack W.
Asia, so I'll be sharing the same clock as Michael T for a few years. Jack W. Reeve -Original Message-From: LARRY KLAES [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday 09 October 2004 16:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? So maybe we can

Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-09 Thread Michael Turner
If radar worked through ice, it would probably work through water. Submarines echolocate by sonar, rather than radar. That should tell you something. (This, by the way, may be a flaw in Deception Point. I'd been assuming that the meteorite buried deep in Arctic ice in that novel was

Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice?

2004-10-09 Thread LARRY KLAES
- Original Message - From: James McEnanly To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: How far can radio signals penetrate through ice? Usually it is by way of Extremely Low Frequencies. The antennae y=used for this are often acres, if not square