RE: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-13 Thread Andy Robinson
> Well done! I looked at his web page and he looks like a lot of thought > and a lot of fun. For anyone interested in foreign languages, his > diatribe on Dutch spelling ('An Englishman's Difficulties with the > Dutch') is extremely entertaining. If he is equally informative and > witty in front of

RE: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-13 Thread Beatrice Fontaine
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 15:08, Andy Robinson wrote: > I did, and he just said "yes"! Jacob was copied > and introduced as the 'chairperson'. I'll try > to get a draft title out of him, and let him know of > the list's existence in case he wants to know more > or chat to everyone. Well done! I loo

RE: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-13 Thread Andy Robinson
al Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Harald Armin MassaSent: 13 April 2005 08:02To: Andy RobinsonCc: Michael Hudson; Europython ListSubject: Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters Andy,   do I understand correctly that you have or are going to send an

RE: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-13 Thread Andy Robinson
-From: Harald Armin Massa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 13 April 2005 08:02To: Andy RobinsonCc: Michael Hudson; Europython ListSubject: Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters Andy,   do I understand correctly that you have or are going to send an introduction to Mr. Pemberton?   That is good

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-13 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Andy,   do I understand correctly that you have or are going to send an introduction to Mr. Pemberton?   That is good news than, just want to be sure that I did understand correctly.   Harald   On 4/12/05, Andy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jacob, I guess.I'll wait to hear if Jacob agrees,

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Jacob Hallen
tisdag 12 april 2005 20.26 skrev Andy Robinson: > > Jacob, I guess. > > I'll wait to hear if Jacob agrees, and then send > an email introducing them. I agree. Jacob ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

RE: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Andy Robinson
> Jacob, I guess. I'll wait to hear if Jacob agrees, and then send an email introducing them. Thanks, Andy ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Jacob Hallen
tisdag 12 april 2005 09.33 skrev Harald Armin Massa: > And me. Who wants to send him a mail? > __ > > > _ > > Can someone please elighten me what the conditions for a keynote speaker > are? > > I read he has free entrence to EuroPython. Does EP also agree

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Martijn Faassen
Harald Armin Massa wrote: Especially, Mr. Pemberton is dutch and therefor can more easily understand some things in python according to import this; and his hairstyle fits to the bdfl. I think he's British, just based here, but I've heard good things about him and think I read some funny stuff by

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:12:50 BST, Michael Hudson writes: >Laura Creighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >him == "Paul Graham", yes? :) Yes -- sorry sorry. Laura > >> I heard him at PyCon 2 or 3 years ago. At that point in time my positi >on >> was that he was bright, could speak w

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Especially, Mr. Pemberton is dutch and therefor can more easily understand some things in python according to import this; and his hairstyle fits to the bdfl. harald -- GHUM Harald Massapersuasion python postgresqlHarald Armin MassaReinsburgstraße 202b70197 Stuttgart0173/9409607__

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Hudson
Laura Creighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: him == "Paul Graham", yes? :) > I heard him at PyCon 2 or 3 years ago. At that point in time my position > was that he was bright, could speak well, but didn't really know > all that much about Python. He was speaking on 'the language for > the year

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Laura Creighton
I heard him at PyCon 2 or 3 years ago. At that point in time my position was that he was bright, could speak well, but didn't really know all that much about Python. He was speaking on 'the language for the year 3000 or some such' and some of the stuff he wanted, we already have. His love of Li

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Hudson
Harald Armin Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And me. Who wants to send him a mail? > __ > > _ > > Can someone please elighten me what the conditions for a keynote speaker > are? > > I read he has free entrence to EuroPython. Does EP also agree (if

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Harald Armin Massa
And me.  Who wants to send him a mail? __ _ Can someone please elighten me what the conditions for a keynote speaker are? I read he has free entrence to EuroPython. Does EP also agree (if absolutely necessary) to pay his travelling costs? And and and..

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Hudson
Harald Armin Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>His talk was about 'keeping things simple' and human-oriented >>in programming in general. It was quite inspiring and very funny. > > Sounds great to me. +1 And me. Who wants to send him a mail? Cheers, mwh -- 48. The best book on programming

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-11 Thread Harald Armin Massa
>His talk was about 'keeping things simple' and human-oriented >in programming in general.  It was quite inspiring and very funny. Sounds great to me. +1 And did BDFLs hairstyle change ? Harald -- GHUM Harald Massapersuasion python postgresqlHarald Armin MassaReinsburgstraße 202b70197 Stuttgart0

RE: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-11 Thread Andy Robinson
At XML Europe last year, there was a keynote I really enjoyed from Steven Pemberton at the W3C. He's chair of various key W3C committees with an impressive resume. http://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/ He was a colleague of Guido's in the early days at CWI (and had photos of both of them with som

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-11 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 11 April 2005 07:01, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > This is where I think Europython has done better than Pycon. We have had > > keynote speakers (apart from Guido), who have talked about things that > > transcend Python, and I think this has affected the whole spirit of > > Europython. > > A

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-11 Thread Martijn Faassen
Harald Armin Massa wrote: [snip] So, anyway: who ist that guy? http://dirtsimple.org/ I think he might fit into that Python and transcending idea. I DO NOT want him to talk about generic functions, WHATEVER that may be... but he has a lot of transcending stuff. Phillip Eby. If we're going for Pyt

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-11 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Martijn, yeah, SoftwarePatents are evil. And you are right: I personally don't want to hear more preaching to the choir about theevils of software patterns; as a talk, yes, but as a keynote, please no.Something inspirational is needed, not something depressing... a keynote would be preaching to

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-11 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jacob Hallén wrote: [snip] This is where I think Europython has done better than Pycon. We have had keynote speakers (apart from Guido), who have talked about things that transcend Python, and I think this has affected the whole spirit of Europython. As a datapoint: At the first PyCon, there was

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-11 Thread Martijn Faassen
Henrion Benjamin wrote: Nicolas Chauvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050406]: On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:30:36PM +0100, John Pinner wrote: Someone from the FFII? Lots of ignorance about the importance of the patents issue in the Python community, I fear. +1 Most people active on the issue will be lobbyi

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-10 Thread Harald Armin Massa
All members of the KNSRT! >This is where I think Europython has done better than Pycon. We have had >keynote speakers (apart from Guido), who have talked about things that >transcend Python, and I think this has affected the whole spirit of >Europython. I support this idea. Often I see python tr

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-06 Thread Jacob Hallén
Good to have a discussion going. I agree with a lot of what John, said, but I do have a few other aspects I'd like to mention. The first one is the marketing aspect. A keynote gives you a poster name, and it matters in two ways. One is that an interesting sounding keynote will actually attract

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-06 Thread Henrion Benjamin
Nicolas Chauvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050406]: > On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:30:36PM +0100, John Pinner wrote: > > > Someone from the FFII? Lots of ignorance about the importance of the > > patents issue in the Python community, I fear. > > +1 Most people active on the issue will be lobbying in B

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-06 Thread Nicolas Chauvat
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:30:36PM +0100, John Pinner wrote: > Someone from the FFII? Lots of ignorance about the importance of the > patents issue in the Python community, I fear. +1 -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avancée et gestion de connaissances __

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-06 Thread John Pinner
Michael Hudson wrote: Jacob Hallén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On onsdag 06 april 2005 15:54, Harald Armin Massa wrote: Hello to all the members of the KeyNoteSpeaker recruiting Team (KNSrT) Who knows anything 'bout http://www.paulgraham.com/index.html Paul Graham ??? He wrote "hackers and painter

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Hudson
Jacob Hallén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On onsdag 06 april 2005 15:54, Harald Armin Massa wrote: >> Hello to all the members of the KeyNoteSpeaker recruiting Team (KNSrT) >> >> >> Who knows anything 'bout >> >> http://www.paulgraham.com/index.html >> >> Paul Graham ??? >> >> He wrote "hackers a

Re: [EuroPython] KeyNoters

2005-04-06 Thread Jacob Hallén
On onsdag 06 april 2005 15:54, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Hello to all the members of the KeyNoteSpeaker recruiting Team (KNSrT) > > > Who knows anything 'bout > > http://www.paulgraham.com/index.html > > Paul Graham ??? > > He wrote "hackers and painters", got a Millionair during > dot.com