[EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Lynn Root
To the EuroPython organizers, talk reviewers, and community at large, For those of you who do not know me, I am a board member of the Python Software Foundation, the founder and leader of PyLadies San Francisco, and an engineer at Spotify. I have been a speaker at the last two EuroPythons, with

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Daniel Kraft
Absolute ack! - Ursprüngliche Mail - To the EuroPython organizers, talk reviewers, and community at large, For those of you who do not know me, I am a board member of the Python Software Foundation, the founder and leader of PyLadies San Francisco, and an engineer at Spotify. I

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 04/15/2014 02:14 PM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 04/15/2014 02:11 PM, Simon Cross wrote: Greetings Is it possible to get some demographics on authors who submitted talks vs authors of accepted talks? It would be good to know whether the blind selection process functioned as intended

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Nicholas H.Tollervey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes! On 15/04/14 10:28, Lynn Root wrote: - limit speakers to only give one talk. +1 Perhaps too late for this year, but I wish this were the case for every conference. N. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Filip Kłębczyk
W dniu 15.04.2014 14:32, Andreas Jung pisze: At least for the last EuroPython in Florence you could vote for talks (can not recall if you could see the speaker and its gender) you could see speakers data in EP2013 - did it make a huge difference? The question is how many talks conducted

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Hynek Schlawack
On 15 Apr 2014, at 8:37, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: Yes! On 15/04/14 10:28, Lynn Root wrote: - limit speakers to only give one talk. +1 Perhaps too late for this year, but I wish this were the case for every conference. First of all I’m glad that after the troubling discussion

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
If it helps, I'd happily free up this slot in the selected talks list (https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/event/schedule/): 43 - Embedded Devices - Marc-Andre Lemburg - Home Automation with Kivy, Raspberry Pi and MQTT and perhaps do the talk as open space session, if there's interest. BTW: This

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Roberto Polli
Hi @all, On Tuesday 15 April 2014 02:28:50 Lynn Root wrote: For those of you who do not know me.. Everybody.py knows you, Lynn! - talk selection was/is being done blindly, as in no identifying information about the speaker is revealed -#2 there are very little women on that preliminary talk

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On 04/15/2014 03:07 PM, Hynek Schlawack wrote: - And finally walking the walk: my talk is still in the queue and I will happily retract my proposal if it helps to have a more diverse conference. Good point. My talk is also in the queue. I don't know whether it's rejected or not. If

[EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I thought I'd give my preferences for conference length in the future. It's just my point of view, but I had it for a while now, and I figure I'd better share it to be more constructive. For some years, EuroPython was 3 days of conference, with perhaps 3 or 4 parallel tracks with

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Stefan Scherfke
Am 2014-04-15 um 15:07 schrieb Hynek Schlawack h...@ox.cx: - Having speakers have 3 slots is ridiculous, 2 should be a very rare exception. So ask them which talk is more important and there you have some free slots. I wrote an email to the EP help desk a few days ago and offered to

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Murre
+1 for going back to the original 3-day length of the conference, not to criticize the organisation, it's just my personal preference. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.comwrote: Hi there, I thought I'd give my preferences for conference length in the

[EuroPython] R: conference length

2014-04-15 Thread roberto.polli
Sorry but mobile forces top posting and laconic mode.  Martijn suggests shorter conferences.  I think that one week is fine: the last 2 EPs were a perfect mix of tech and social event.  To foster Python community we need not just a guru conference, but a place to share and meet the diverse

[EuroPython] R: Re: conference length

2014-04-15 Thread roberto.polli
Right time to discuss: no.  Right Place to discuss: probably yes.  Enough said for me, people. Peace.  R Inviato da Samsung Mobile Messaggio originale Da: Andreas Jung e...@zopyx.com Data:15/04/2014 20:56 (GMT+01:00) A: Jan Murre jan.mu...@gmail.com Cc:

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Steve Barnes
On 15/04/14 20:48, Andreas Jung wrote: You will not reach _all_ different stakeholders through this list. An open-space at the conference, a public survey at the conference …something like that would be representative…but peace (but there was no war) :-) Andreas Am 15.04.2014 um 15:46 schrieb

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
On 04/15/2014 08:56 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I think it is neither the right place Oh, sorry, what is the right mailing list to bring this up? nor the right way You don't want feedback with constructive intent? nor the right time to discuss Should I have brought it up earlier or later?

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Nelle Varoquaux
On Apr 15, 2014 3:25 PM, Roberto Polli roberto.po...@babel.it wrote: Hi @all, On Tuesday 15 April 2014 02:28:50 Lynn Root wrote: For those of you who do not know me.. Everybody.py knows you, Lynn! - talk selection was/is being done blindly, as in no identifying information about the

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Horst Gutmann
Hi Martjin, I definitely see where you're coming from having had the same reaction at first when I saw the schedule for the first Europython in Florence a couple of years back. For me personally, though, the idea of making your own conference worked really well in the end. Every conference

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Horst Gutmann
On 15.04.2014, at 15:58, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: On 04/15/2014 08:56 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I think it is neither the right place Oh, sorry, what is the right mailing list to bring this up? nor the right way You don't want feedback with constructive intent?

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi all, hi Nelle, On 15 April 2014 22:23, Nelle Varoquaux nelle.varoqu...@gmail.com wrote: As a member of a minority , I feel very uncomfortable with such quotas, and if you ask women in computer science around Europe, they tend to feel the same way (this may be very different in North

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Hynek Schlawack
On 15 Apr 2014, at 16:23, Nelle Varoquaux wrote: Not entirely fair, even for ladies awaiting for the final schedule. I agree instead to set gender quotas (eg. 40% minimum for the less-represented gender). But imho rules should be set *before* the review process. As a member of a minority , I

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
On 04/15/2014 11:06 PM, Armin Rigo wrote: In this case, woman participation is going slowly up year after year. I certainly think (and hope!) that it's not just because of favorable discrimination; instead, it is most probably just a slow process of natural regulation that occurs inside a

Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

2014-04-15 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 16 Apr 2014 00:26:59 +0200, Martijn Faassen writes: * Considering whether we want a self-selected democracy for anonymously selecting talks based on individual merits, or whether we want to involve other methods too. Say a smaller group of people that looks at the overall

[EuroPython] Incorrect charset for the Europython mailing list

2014-04-15 Thread Laura Creighton
The EP mailing list is configured so that it has: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii while the footer has: EuroPython 2014 \x96 Berlin, 21th\x9627th July Notice the two \x96 characters. The intent is almost certainly to have those interpreted in the windows-1252 charset, where they