Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-28 Thread Horst Gutmann
That sounds great :-) This February's DjangoWeekend in Cardiff was a great example of how awesome such a small event can be. IIRC PyCon UK has also been sized down in recent years (sadly couldn't attend since 2008). -- Horst On 24 Apr 2014, at 20:40, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Just as teaser:

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-24 Thread Martijn Faassen
On 04/23/2014 11:18 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: We all have ideas about what is good. bottom line: it's complicated. There are no unit tests, just personal judgment. Some group of people plan and run an event = good. To this year's team, and really all PyCon's I have been aware of, keep up the

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-24 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 24.04.2014 12:17, Martijn Faassen wrote: On 04/23/2014 07:13 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 23.04.2014 16:20, Martijn Faassen wrote: I would also account for the fact that almost 900 people joined EuroPython in Florence last year, with more than a 2x boost in 3 years, and the general feedback

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-24 Thread Dinu Gherman
Martijn Faassen: I'm trying to understand the intent your email. Are you telling some of us to just go away and do our own thing? This isn't an us versus them. We're not outsiders barging in; we're old friends. I do count as one of the people who has helped organize EuroPython in the past,

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-24 Thread Martijn Faassen
On 04/24/2014 01:13 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: [snip] Yes, I understand PyCon US is more like EuroPython back in 2009, with 3 days conference proper, 2 days training. I've been talking about the actual conference days. Yep, but the total length is two days more. In 2009 at EuroPython I

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-24 Thread Carl Karsten
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Dinu Gherman gher...@darwin.in-berlin.dewrote: Martijn Faassen: I'm trying to understand the intent your email. Are you telling some of us to just go away and do our own thing? This isn't an us versus them. We're not outsiders barging in; we're old friends.

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-24 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Just as teaser: The EPS has some ideas on a new additional format to complement the main EuroPython conference. The idea is to have a format which does not require huge rooms, but rather several smaller ones, so that the event can be held at venues such as universities, colleges, etc. At this

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On 04/17/2014 04:40 PM, Giovanni Bajo wrote: At the end of the day, more talks for more days seems like a better overall solution, and people are welcome to consider it a 3-days conference if they feel so. Consider that the submissions far exceed even the current schedule, so it’s not like

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:13:56 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg writes: snip We should probably put the question of which format is preferred on the conference feedback form and then see whether a change would be worthwhile to improve the attendee experience. You have to be careful with

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-23 Thread Carl Karsten
We all have ideas about what is good. bottom line: it's complicated. There are no unit tests, just personal judgment. Some group of people plan and run an event = good. To this year's team, and really all PyCon's I have been aware of, keep up the good work. I am not aware of any event that

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Carina.Haupt
An: europython@python.org Betreff: Re: [EuroPython] conference length Hey, On 04/15/2014 10:33 PM, Horst Gutmann wrote: Every conference I've attended so far had at least on or two time slots each day where none of the talks appealed to me and so I went to explore the city or just got some sleep

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Carina, On 04/17/2014 10:24 AM, carina.ha...@dlr.de wrote: This definitely it not a perfect compensation for attending a talk live, but it might help some of you to consider this. I personally use this a lot on conferences which offer streaming and/or recordings. Okay, I now I gave my two

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Il giorno 17/apr/2014, alle ore 14:29, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com ha scritto: Hey Carina, On 04/17/2014 10:24 AM, carina.ha...@dlr.de wrote: This definitely it not a perfect compensation for attending a talk live, but it might help some of you to consider this. I personally

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Roberto Polli
There is people that organized his (family) holiday around EP. Moving across Europe for just 3 days in the middle of July will reduce the appeal of tech-tourism and make things like partner-program less effective. My 2¢. Peace, R. -- Roberto Polli Community Manager Babel - a business unit of

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Viner
For those who prefer a shorter Python conference, may I recommend the excellent PyConUK in September (and presumably other national conferences - in quotes because there's a good spread of nationalities present in my experience). See http://2013.pyconuk.org/#Agenda for an idea of the schedule from

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-16 Thread Martijn Faassen
On 04/16/2014 10:24 AM, Tom Viner wrote: For those who prefer a shorter Python conference, may I recommend the excellent PyConUK in September (and presumably other national conferences - in quotes because there's a good spread of nationalities present in my experience). See

[EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I thought I'd give my preferences for conference length in the future. It's just my point of view, but I had it for a while now, and I figure I'd better share it to be more constructive. For some years, EuroPython was 3 days of conference, with perhaps 3 or 4 parallel tracks with

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Murre
+1 for going back to the original 3-day length of the conference, not to criticize the organisation, it's just my personal preference. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.comwrote: Hi there, I thought I'd give my preferences for conference length in the

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Steve Barnes
On 15/04/14 20:48, Andreas Jung wrote: You will not reach _all_ different stakeholders through this list. An open-space at the conference, a public survey at the conference …something like that would be representative…but peace (but there was no war) :-) Andreas Am 15.04.2014 um 15:46 schrieb

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
On 04/15/2014 08:56 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I think it is neither the right place Oh, sorry, what is the right mailing list to bring this up? nor the right way You don't want feedback with constructive intent? nor the right time to discuss Should I have brought it up earlier or later?

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Horst Gutmann
Hi Martjin, I definitely see where you're coming from having had the same reaction at first when I saw the schedule for the first Europython in Florence a couple of years back. For me personally, though, the idea of making your own conference worked really well in the end. Every conference

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-15 Thread Horst Gutmann
On 15.04.2014, at 15:58, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: On 04/15/2014 08:56 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I think it is neither the right place Oh, sorry, what is the right mailing list to bring this up? nor the right way You don't want feedback with constructive intent?