EV digest 5631
EV Digest 5631 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: An Automotive Zoo, Horns for EV's by James Massey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: DC Motor torque calculations, choosing accessory motor by Richard Furniss [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) RE: Whr/mile by Mike Willmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Taurus EV by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Fun with Z-regs by Steve Condie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) RE: Taurus EV by Mike Willmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: Taurus EV by John G. Lussmyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Another note from Jay, was 214 mph cycle by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: DC-DC wishlist by Nick Viera [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) String equalization and lifetime, was: Taurus EV by Cor van de Water [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: An Automotive Zoo, Horns for EV's by Seppo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: New 214 MPH Electric Motorcycle (rant slightly OT) by Philippe Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: New 214 MPH Electric Motorcycle by Philippe Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: Looking for a quite vacuum pump by Nick Viera [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) EV for a different customer. by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: Current Eliminator running? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Current Eliminator running? by Jack Knopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: DC Motor torque calculations by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: EV for a different customer. by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) RE: DC Motor torque calculations by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) RE: DC-DC wishlist by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Re: DC-DC wishlist by Dave Cover [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Daytona 675 specs?, was 214 mph MC by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- At 04:55 PM 7/07/06 -0500, you wrote: This is the one that will be the voice of my EV. They call it the hammer and it is a quad train horn. It is pretty light weight even though it is all metal construction and I already have the compressor and air tank for the air lift system. These things are LOUD! , not the toy horns you see that run off 12 volts! I hooked this thing up and it about took the rest of the hair off my head! :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140005621750ih=004category=60203ssPageName=STORE:PROMOBOX:NEWLIST Why not? Mark Ward G'day Mark, and all Why not? you ask, because the SUV driver is so busy looking for the train that he runs over your Saab! A friend had a set of truck horns in his little jappy econobox, and he had a couple of close calls that he later worked out were due to the drivers' that nearly 'collected' him were busy looking for the Mack (etc) that was honking. Better to have loud honking *car* horns and be safe, in my opinion and practices. Regards [Technik] James ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- (out of lurk mode) There all kinds of ways to get your power steering going again in a EV, two of my favorite ways is (1) use the electric power steering rack out of a Prius for vehicles with power steering racks or (2) GM's new hybrid PU truck uses a electric power steering pump, I don't know if it's a 12 volt or a 36 volt motor or PWM for that matter but I will put a note in my lunch box to remind me to look it up next week. This GM power steering pump may help out the people who want to play with automatic transmissions that needs to keep the pressure up when the main motor isn't spinning. I was surprised with how quiet this pump was and more surprised when it increased in speed when a load was put on it, nice job GM. Richard Furniss is it suppose to smoke like that ? Since Air conditioning and power steering are different types of loads, perhaps we could somehow detect when power steering is needed and then just release the AC clutch when the power steering pump is on. Some of the newer pumps have a bypass and it can freewheel. A Variation in this could turn the motor one direction for Power steering and turn the other way for AC, a simple one way lets the power steering pump stop and the typical AC clutch is wired tot he reversing contactor. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I only have just over a month (~600 miles) on my 4000 lb truck. But I can say the numbers look like this on average: Up to 10 mile trips sees ~175Wh/mi Between 10 to 20 mile trips ~285Wh/mi Between 20 to 30 mile trips (only have a handful) ~350Wh/mi These are under normal driving conditions, no hard accelerations to beat the kid next to me to the next light, fairly flat, stop-n-go on secondary streets 35-50 mph. If I give a few demo rides to friends where I do about 10 miles with a bunch of full power accelerations that seems to net me about 400Wh/mi. If I did that for about 20 miles I'm sure it would be a pitiful number. I haven't gone hard on them if I want to make over 20 mile
EV digest 5632
EV Digest 5632 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Looking for a quite vacuum pump by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: DC Motor torque calculations, choosing accessory motor by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Fun with Z-regs by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: EV for a different customer. by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: Looking for a quite vacuum pump by Phil Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Tire info link / weight of wheels question by Steven Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) RE: Daytona 675 specs?, was 214 mph MC by Roger Stockton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: String equalization and lifetime, was: Taurus EV by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: Return to manzanita micro dc-dc idea by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: DC Motor torque calculations by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: DC Motor torque calculations, auto trans by Richard Furniss [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: Looking for a quite vacuum pump by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: Fun with Z-regs by Paul G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: Daytona 675 specs?, was 214 mph MC by mreish [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: String equalization and lifetime, was: Taurus EV by Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: Return to manzanita micro dc-dc idea by Nick Viera [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) RE: Whr/mile by Cor van de Water [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: New 214 MPH Electric Motorcycle by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: Electrics Wow the PIR Crowd Friday Night! (pt. 1) by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: DC-DC wishlist by Michaela Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: Commercial BMSs (was RE: Taurus EV) by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Brian, I know we sell one but I always recommend using enhanced manual brakes. I also hate the sound of a vacuum pump. It is one of the first things I gave the Ford rep crap about on their EV Ranger when I saw my first one. His explanation when I asked them why the engineers did not do away with it was actually quite logical. They wanted to use as much OEM parts as possible. Anyway, years ago, I don't remember when exactly, they invented the lever. I was probably a kid then. This device allowed you to put a little pressure in one end and get a lot out the other depending on where you put the fulcrum :-) Smart ass mode off now. In our Ford Taurus race car and in GP we used a Wilwood 7 to 1 brake pedal assembly. http://www.wilwood.com/Products/005-PedalAssemblies/002-FSMP/clutch/index.asp Yes it is a bit of work to install but the resulting silence is golden. Roderick Roderick Wilde, President, EV Parts Inc. Your Online EV Superstore www.evparts.com 1-360-385-7082 Phone: 360-582-1270 Fax: 360-582-1272 PO Box 834, Carlsborg, WA 98324 108-B Business Park Loop, Sequim, WA 98382 - Original Message - From: Jody Dewey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: RE: Looking for a quite vacuum pump EVparts.com sells a brand new one for $209. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lewis, Brian K Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:21 AM To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Subject: Looking for a quite vacuum pump The GM vacuum pump that I got from a junk yard is starting to go out. When I start the car (turn the car on) it does not always power up right away. Today it took about 10 mins before I had a vacuum. I have never been happy with the pump. It was good for the price I paid but it is embarrassing having to explain to everyone what the horrendous noise is on an otherwise quite ride. I am looking for other options. Surly with all the hybrids on the road someone out there has already tried one in an EV? Brian -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Saturn Vue has electric power steering also. May be the same unit. The interesting thing about this delphi unit is that it attaches to the column, above the rack or gearbox, So it is more readily adapted to vehilces. It looks like I could fit it in, but to tell you the truth, I don't seem to miss it. I don't know about the prius one yet, but the honda has the motor on the rack itself, so kinda of more model specific. For AC, I have decided when I get some bucks to go get a 2004 prius compressor and convert the car to r134, I will put the compressor, old condensor, and a fan in the space where the fuel tank was because the original area has 7 of my batteries. ---End Message---
EV digest 5633
EV Digest 5633 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Roderick Wilde did something to my motor! by Jim Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) RE: Electrics Wow the PIR Crowd Friday Night! (pt. 1) by Roger Stockton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) RE: Daytona 675 specs?, was 214 mph MC by Shawn M. Waggoner \(EVDL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: New 214 MPH Electric Motorcycle by Philippe Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) RE: Fun with Z-regs by Roger Stockton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: String equalization and lifetime, was: Taurus EV by Doug Weathers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) RE: Commercial BMSs (was RE: Taurus EV) by Roger Stockton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Fun with Z-regs by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: String equalization and lifetime, was: Taurus EV by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: DC Motor torque calculations by Peter Shabino [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: Roderick Wilde did something to my motor! by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Tesla Motors electric car unveiling moved from July 12 to July 19, in Santa Monica by Jorg Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: Roderick Wilde did something to my motor! by Jim Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Burned Motor by John G. Lussmyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: EV for a different customer. by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: DC Motor torque calculations by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: New 214 MPH Electric Motorcycle by [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: Burned Motor by Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: New 214 MPH Electric Motorcycle by Steve Condie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: New 214 MPH Electric Motorcycle by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: DC Motor torque calculations by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Dear List It has come to my attention that 'Ol Rod has abused his motor once again! Since it's also come to my attention that Rod enjoys a good public tar and feathering I've submitted pics to my site for your viewing and judging pleasure 8^ P Rod chastised me for not having put any links to his sites, so I've remedied that for your ease in a public intervention to help stop this horrid motor abuse. I ask that you all read the charges and judge him both severly, and promptly! Rod you know I still love you but sometimes you just have to whip out the tough love! 8^ P Hope you all enjoy. Cya Jim Husted Hi-Torque Electric http://www.hitorqueelectric.com - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Rich Rudman wrote: That's what the SB175 need ...you have to walk them. If you use a SB350.. it's about 1/2 the forces. You must have some bum SB175s; mine plug and unplug fine. The SB350 in my doesn't seem significantly different in insertion force than the SB175s, but I do tend to walk it when unmating. Get scared.. check the SBX700 out.. it comes with a latch and lever system. The latch and lever system is available for the SB350s (and perhaps the smaller models too?); it certainly does make the connectors friendly to users with little upper body strength ;^ OK I win!! My connectors are larger than yours!!! Yep; you win! ;^ They have 10 Aux 20 amp pins inbetween the main pins that you can stick your Thumb into. This is what makes them a bear to mate/unmate; even just the 2 PowerPole aux contacts in the SBX make a huge difference between an SB175 and SBX175 (the main contacts are identical other than length). Cheers, Roger. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi Rod, Like Mike also chimed in, it's really hard to find good published numbers on sport bikes. Comparing it to some other similarly styled bikes, my guess would be in the mid .7's for the 675, but this is just a SWAG based on styling similarities to other types of bikes of the same size. Also keep in mind that part of that number is based on the frontal area of the bike, which has to include the rider as well - and that is dynamic value. There is a really good spreadsheet that was published last year that allows you to input a variety of values to review the effects of lift, drag, loading and performance on the bike at speed. It also has some power results as well. You could input the range of Cd and specs from the 675 to see how the results vary. Here is the link to the spreadsheet: http://www.msgroup.org/forums/mtt/images/DragLift.xls Hope that helps, Shawn Waggoner Florida EAA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roderick Wilde Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 10:36 AM To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Subject: Daytona 675 specs?, was 214 mph MC Does anyone know what the actual drag coefficient is for a
