Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on “Right to Repair” enforcement

2021-07-29 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Some people feel that "Right to Repair" includes "Right to modify software", that was mentioned in the article. My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key July 28, 2021 2:51 PM, "Peri Hartman via EV" wrote: > Honestly, I don't think that has anything to do with "right to repair." >

[EVDL] Nikola founder Trevor Milton pleads not guilty to fraud charges, released on $100 million bail

2021-07-29 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/29/nikola-founder-trevor-milton-pleads-not-guilty-to-fraud-charges.html I hope the inventor of "Gravity Drive" goes to jail for a long time. Lawrence Rhodes ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO

Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on ?Right to Repair? enforcement

2021-07-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 7/29/21 6:56 PM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: Mine include not driving a bug-eyed clown car that I can't fix myself. If they are so wonderful, why did it take three of them to go 160k? Yes, Gen1/1.5 Leaf's look a bit weird. I've dismantled a 2013 completely and was quite impressed with

Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on ?Right to Repair? enforcement

2021-07-29 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> You just don't know what you are missing I would encourage you to refrain from making assumptions on which you have no basis to make a judgement. My "conversion" is a factory conversion, not a home-built conversion It nicely handles my needs, which are modest I ~have~ driven it "cross

[EVDL] The Tesla Model 3's Aero Wheel Covers Improve Efficiency

2021-07-29 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
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Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on ?Right to Repair? enforcement

2021-07-29 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I have built and still tinker with EVs of all sorts. My Nissan which I probably couldn't diagnose or fix anything on has been a blessing. It meets all my needs. I could never make a car like that for 14k which is what I paid used and new for my two Leafs. Your conversion will never go cross

Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on “Right to Repair” enforcement

2021-07-29 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> Ford doesn't teach dealer mechanices how to work > on the cars their dealers sell? Considering how hard the "big three' automakers are trying to build market and sell EV's, how much time do you suppose they invest in teaching the repair department in a stealership serving a town of 5,000 to

Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on “Right to Repair” enforcement

2021-07-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Jul 2021 at 20:41, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > What finally killed [the Ford Focus EV] in my mind was that if it > needed more than the windshield washer fluid checked or brake pads > replaced, the stealership would be helpless and it would probably be > trucked to Portland (3 hours away)

Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on “Right to Repair” enforcement

2021-07-29 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
There are some on this list who are holding back from purchasing a production EV due to the perception that the offerings are too "closed source" for their sensibilities. Whether it be remote shut down, forced updates, feature takebacks, or just plain data tracking (spying). Some years back,