Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

My EVSE didn't die. My wife didn't plug in all the way until the J1772 adapter clicked into place...sheesh. At least I now have all the parts to make an adapter.  Lawrence  -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] 2012 leaf large 12 volt battery

irectly or from the battery pack. On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 8:49 PM redscooter via EV wrote: > > I thinking of having extra batteries in the 12 volt system so I can > have extra capacity to run 12 volt inveter with out using traction > battery. I have like an other 300 amps hours 12

[EVDL] charging 24kw battery out car.

I have the very low soc battery out of the car and want to charge it as the whole pack to kept it for capity. someone sent somthing about using a diode and resitor devider. they said i'd have to be care full not letting power go back into the grid, I have an off grid invertor to stop the pr

[EVDL] 2012 leaf large 12 volt battery

I thinking of having extra batteries in the 12 volt system so I can have extra capacity to run 12 volt inveter with out using traction battery. I have like an other 300 amps hours 12 volt to have the car charge while normally charging. but will car the stop charging the 12 volt adtional b

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Where electrons have defeated gasoline

Cryptocurrency and NFTs could probably charge EV's worldwide!  Not sure what they actually do other than waste energy and create fake money? On Tuesday, September 17, 2024 at 09:34:50 PM EDT, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: In Norway, registered EVs now outnumber registered gas

[EVDL] EVLN: Where electrons have defeated gasoline

In Norway, registered EVs now outnumber registered gasoline ICEVs. That's the good news. The bad news is that Diesels still outnumber both. But with 90% of new vehicle sales now EVs, Diesel days are numbered. Full story: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240917-electric-cars-overtake-pe

Re: [EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

it does include the cell housing. But it doesn't matter as the densities are so great. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message ------ From: "Ron via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "

Re: [EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

lling to push the battery that hard. On September 15, 2024 7:57:17 p.m. CST, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: >Hi Folks >Has anyone experienced an electric speed boat that can pull skiers for several >hours before recharging? Or is it made of Unobtanium. When I electrified my >www.eval

Re: [EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

require a less weighty battery pack. Bill D  On 9/16/2024 1:57 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi Folks Has anyone experienced an electric speed boat that can pull skiers for several hours before recharging? Or is it made of Unobtanium. When I electrified my www.evalbum.com/2749 E Cat max

[EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

Hi Folks Has anyone experienced an electric speed boat that can pull skiers for several hours before recharging? Or is it made of Unobtanium. When I electrified my www.evalbum.com/2749 E Cat max speed was 7mph on a displacement hull for 30 miles with 48V 10Kwh LiFePo4 Caleb batteries about 10

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

V.com > -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of Dave Davidson via EV > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 9:39 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Dave Davidson ; Lawrence Rhodes > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral? > > The

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

can cause issues. On Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 10:31 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > The trusting wife to analyze an electrical or any technical problem is > useless and you wind up chasing your tail. I will make an adapter and check > to see if the EVSE is really broken. On all the normal

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

how to get control of the setting in the EVSE and can change it to 24A when plugging into a 30A circuit like now. Most times I am charging with my Leaf, so there is no urgency to get this solved. Hope this clarifies, Cor. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 1:26 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 1

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

On 13 Sep 2024 at 12:56, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > You shouldn't be pulling more than 20A on #12 anyway For sure, and that only for short periods. Continuous loads shouldn't exceed 16 amps (80% of maximum). Not to be too preachy here, but if you really have AWG 12, your wiri

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

eptable voltage drop even at only 20A. (about 17% even at only 20A!) Attempting to pull 30A is way outside of NEC limits! (30A would be 25% loss!!!) On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 12:44 PM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Maybe in interesting tidbit for Phil: > My Tesla (2013 S with dual charger)

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

if you can >>> > do board-level repair due to their mechanical design. I suggest just >>> > ordering a used one for a couple hundred $. >>> > >>> > If you wanted to save buying one, you could convert the existing slave to >>> > a ma

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

The trusting wife to analyze an electrical or any technical problem is useless and you wind up chasing your tail. I will make an adapter and check to see if the EVSE is really broken. On all the normal family stuff she is very good.  Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HT

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

age- > From: EV On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV > Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 10:25 AM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: (-Phil-) ; Lawrence Rhodes > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral? > > Code-wise, You can't have an outlet (ada

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

uestion is - since the Tesla 14-50 >> Plug has no wire connected to the neutral pin, is it code acceptable? >> >> Best, >> >> Rush Dougherty >> TucsonEV >> www.TucsonEV.com >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: EV On Behal

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

since the Tesla 14-50 > Plug has no wire connected to the neutral pin, is it code acceptable? > > Best, > > Rush Dougherty > TucsonEV > www.TucsonEV.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: EV On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV > > Sent: Monday, Sep

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

t, the UMC will not function. On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 6:31 AM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > On 9 Sep 2024 at 6:33, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > > My Think EVSE finally died, after a decade of use... > > Very sorry to hear of your loss. > > > If I can trust my

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

On 9 Sep 2024 at 6:33, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > My Think EVSE finally died, after a decade of use... Very sorry to hear of your loss. > If I can trust my wife. If you can't, you - and she - have more problems than a dead EVSE, and I don't think that this li

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

s not as well known. I made an extension cord for my mobile charger. My wall outlet only had 3 wires (2 hots & ground). I connected them up and did not connect anything to the neutral. It worked fine. Mike > On 09/09/2024 12:44 AM MDT Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > > >

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

NEMA 14-50 plug to draw up to 40A. But there may be adapters for a 30A circuit that will program it to draw only 24A. I have not used my mobile charger so long that I don't remember other than a NEMA 5-15 and 14-50 plug. On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 11:34 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > >

[EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

It's been a while since I have needed to make an adapter for my EVSE. My Think EVSE finally died, after a decade of use...If I can trust my wife. There is an L-30 twist lock. I need to adapt it to 14-30 to accommodate the Tesla EVSE. I saw one diagram that simply didn't connect the neutral. Two

[EVDL] EVLN: EVs 94% of Norway sales

In August, 94% of the cars sold in Norway were EVs. For the year to date, it's 87%. When a nation's goverment actually WANTS its people driving EVs, they implement policies that make it happen. It probably helps that Norway has no craven, hidebound ICEV manufacturers to whine and wail about

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

Rush wrote: > The J1772 Spec from the 2017 SAE Standard states - > > Table 9 - AC charging electrical ratings (North America) > AC Level 2 208 to 240 V AC, 1-phase ≤ 80 A Per NEC 625 > > So your 245VAC may not be safe for some EV's Rush, isn't this the nominal voltage? Voltage ratings usually incl

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

to deliver either 220V -6%/+10% (207-242) or for the former 240V countries, 240V -10%/+6% which is 216-254 so that if you produced equipment for 230V +/-10% then it would work everywhere: that range works out to 207-253V On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 3:28 AM Jay Summet via EV wrote: > > I have a

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

:28 AM Jay Summet via EV wrote: > > I have a solar system on my house, and have seen my "240" volt circuit > jump as high as 245 when the solar system is adding 10 kw flowing back > into the grid, never had an issue charging my Nissan Leaf at that > slightly over spec r

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

limits are 230V + 10% or - 6% (253.3V-216.2V). Jay On 9/4/24 01:23, Rush via EV wrote: The J1772 Spec from the 2017 SAE Standard states - Table 9 - AC charging electrical ratings (North America) AC Level 2 208 to 240 V AC, 1-phase ≤ 80 A Per NEC 625 So your 245VAC may not be safe for some

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

- > From: EV On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 6:24 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Cor van de Water > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla > > So, best to use a little step-down transformer on your TeslaT

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

PM (-Phil-) wrote: > > > > Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla > > destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV > > wrote: > >> > >> The only c

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:55 PM (-Phil-) wrote: > > Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla > destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: >> >> The only concern I would

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > The only concern I would have with using a TeslaTap on an unknown > destination charger is that you a

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

n may use a commercial site's 277V parking lot lighting connection to wire up a destination charger, making it very dangerous for any non-Tesla EV to plug in... On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 2:15 PM Rush via EV wrote: > > There are currently lots of versions of the 'teslatap'. It

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

h Dougherty TucsonEV www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes via EV > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 8:37 AM > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: Lawrence Rhodes > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla > > I have used a Tesl

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

They are using the ISO15118 "plug-n-charge" protocol which uses TLS certificates, so if your vehicle does not have those certs, you can't supercharge. On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 7:38 AM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > How does the system used by Ford and Rivian work? The article dis

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

I have used a TeslaTap at destination chargers for years, on a Leaf. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: __

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

How does the system used by Ford and Rivian work? The article discusses "software coordination with Tesla". With an actual Tesla, you just plug in, the car satisfies the charger that it should be charged, and billing communication is handled by the car. With magic dock, you can charge any CCS ca

[EVDL] List downtime

Because of server maintenance, the EV list will be unavailable for a few hours on Thursday 5 September. I can't predict exactly when or how long. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.or

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Improving lithium cycle life

wers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "EV List Lackey via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "EV List Lackey" Sent: 02-Sep-24 05:03:10 Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Improving lithium cycle life Researchers from the SLAC-Stanford Battery Center (formerly S

[EVDL] EVLN: Improving lithium cycle life

> Researchers from the SLAC-Stanford Battery Center (formerly Stanford > Linear Accelerator Center) said that charging lithium-ion batteries > for the very first time at unusually high [rates] extends their > lifespan by an average of 50% and up to a maximum of 70%. Full story: https://insideev

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla kills "master plan"?

On 2 Sep 2024 at 1:04, Rod Hower via EV wrote: > Forbes wants you to pay to view the article.  Maybe paste the text here. Sorry. Odd, I didn't hit a paywall here. Oh well. - Elon Musk´s 2006 Climate Manifesto For Tesla Is Gone From Its Website The "Secret Master Plan

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

27;s cheaper to drive the Mach E on electric.  I will drive the Insight on the bad winter days in NE Ohio since it's all aluminum and still looks new at 24 years old, need to keep the Mach E nice. On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 04:24:55 PM EDT, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: I r

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla kills "master plan"?

Forbes wants you to pay to view the article.  Maybe paste the text here. On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 09:45:03 AM EDT, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Apparently it was junked in a purge of old blog posts. There is some implication in the story that the purge may have been done, at

[EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

I read in this NY Times article https://archive.ph/1yLYu that supplies of NACS adapters are short, and that > Some Ford and Rivian owners have gotten tired of waiting and bought > adapters from other suppliers whose products are not endorsed by > automakers. Their experience suggests that acces

[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla kills "master plan"?

Apparently it was junked in a purge of old blog posts. There is some implication in the story that the purge may have been done, at least in part, to hide potential evidence from investigations into Tesla's autonomy software. The posts are also unavailable in the Internet Archive. Do you t

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

On 27 Aug 2024 at 12:56, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > It seems automakers just don't think you won't use your car at least once a > week! We don't always, and I don't think we're that unusual. We're retired, and we live in a highly walkable town. We have e-bi

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

It seems automakers just don't think you won't use your car at least once a week! On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 8:57 AM Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Wow. I've had a dead battery so many times because one of the many > interior lights were left on. (They're hard to notice

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

; -- Original Message -- From: "Lee Hart via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Lee Hart" Sent: 26-Aug-24 22:41:08 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw Both vehicles will turn off the headlights (or radio or dome light etc.) if left on

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

Both vehicles will turn off the headlights (or radio or dome light etc.) if left on for more than ~15 minutes. But... both had 12v accessory outlets that remained *on* when the car was off. Leaving a cellphone charger or other gadget plugged into them *would* run the battery down. Or, just leav

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

So, if you leave the lights on and drain the battery, you need to have it towed to a dealer ? There must be another piece to the story. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Lee Hart via EV" To: "

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

Phil wrote: > If you are going to routinely leave any car, EV or not, parked without > attention for more than 2 weeks routinely, I advise a 12v battery switch > be installed on the negative lead. That's good advice, with one caveat. Some cars have standard-equipment anti-theft systems that must

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

battery disconnected and the HV pack off, it will be OK for at least a year. On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:51 AM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > First of all, charging and discharging the batteries in the middle of > their range hardly affects the life of the batteries at all. > If for some r

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

, otherwise the fuse is no longer bolted down, but the wire will pull directly on the fuse itself, which is a failure waiting to happen. Sigh, why does Tesla want to re-invent everything? Cor. On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 7:46 AM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > >From: "(-Phil-)" >Date:

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

From: "(-Phil-)" Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:53:48 -0700 What model? If it's an older S/X then unfortunately they don't have the hardware to sleep fully. Yes, it is a 2015 Model S, so that explains it. If it's plugged in, then it will take it from the wall when SoC drops a bit

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

What model? If it's an older S/X then unfortunately they don't have the hardware to sleep fully. If it's plugged in, then it will take it from the wall when SoC drops a bit. On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 4:19 PM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > Thanks, Phil! > >From: "

[EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

Thanks, Phil! From: "(-Phil-)" Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 16:30:58 -0700 Teslas will use a lot of power if you leave sentry mode running, but without that, it should sleep and not use much range. Sentry keeps the contactors closed 24/7 and sucks down about 200W. That is about 5kWh/

Re: [EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

Rod, thanks for your post. There's a real gold mine of information in it. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

Do what Tesla recommends and don’t do what you read on forums. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, August 24, 2024, 3:40 PM, Ken Olum via EV wrote: Interesting.  What if you have NCA batteries, which seem to be what is in older Teslas? I guess I've been doing the wr

Re: [EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

hout that, it should sleep and not use much range. Sentry keeps the contactors closed 24/7 and sucks down about 200W. On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 1:41 PM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > Interesting. What if you have NCA batteries, which seem to be what is > in older Teslas? > > I guess I'v

Re: [EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

Interesting. What if you have NCA batteries, which seem to be what is in older Teslas? I guess I've been doing the wrong thing, because I've never charged to 100%. It doesn't give any more range than 98%, unless you always start by driving on the highway or up a hill, because you don't get regen

Re: [EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

r outside of that, it's possible. That's only a 3.3% range estimation error in a 300 mile battery pack but 10 miles is a big deal if the car stops driving.Show less On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 09:07:19 AM EDT, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 24 Aug 2024 at 4:28, Lawrence

Re: [EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

On 24 Aug 2024 at 4:28, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > https://youtu.be/w1zKfIQUQ-s Thanks - that's an interesting and well produced piece. I've always read that 20-80% is the optimum for energy throughput with most battery types. I wonder why they didn't test that reg

[EVDL] How to ruin your EV's Battery - LFP edition.

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[EVDL] Hyundai Kona Electric "Refill Inverter Coolant" - back from Dealer

I got the Refill Inverter Coolant message intermittently on my 2021 Hyundai Kona EV (Ultimate). I have owned it for just over 1 year. I searched on Google and it seemed to indicate that there is a tool the dealers have for cleaning the radiator. I gave it to the dealer on July 8. They decided it n

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 142, Issue 15

Thanks all. David, I am not a lease guy. I want to pay for it up front which is why the low price range. Mark > On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:01 PM, ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org wrote: > > Send EV mailing list submissions to >ev@lists.evdl.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide W

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

It's also worth looking for off-lease EVs being sold by the big car rental companies. A guy in Minneapolis/St. Paul just purchased a 2022 Polestar for $10,000. -- Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James But it *does* require attention to detail! -- Lee Hart -- Lee A. Hart https://w

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

Also if you live in Colorado you can get a new 40kWh leaf on lease for basically nothing, (like, $1000 / year) after incentives. See outofspec channel on YouTube, they have the details. Sent from my iPhone > On 19 Aug 2024, at 19:23, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > > At that price r

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

essage- From: EV On Behalf Of Mark Laity-Snyder via EV Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 2:16 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Mark Laity-Snyder Subject: [EVDL] Used EVs I am interested in getting a cheap EV.  What are your favorite EVs that are a great deal for the money.  I am l

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

-program/ Craig On Mon, Aug 19, 2024, 11:23 AM Jay Summet via EV wrote: > At that price range, I'd recommend looking at the (Gen 2, 2018 and > later) Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt. > > Both of those I've seen in the 12-16K range depending upon age/miles and > trim level. >

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

.5) Nissan Leaf's...they have less range but can be had in the 8k-10k range.  [But mostly useful as an around town car due to smaller battery capacity and lower range.] Jay On 8/19/24 14:15, Mark Laity-Snyder via EV wrote: > I am interested in getting a cheap EV.? What are your favor

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

don't need 2. Mike > On 08/19/2024 12:15 PM MDT Mark Laity-Snyder via EV wrote: > > > I am interested in getting a cheap EV.  What are your favorite EVs that are a > great deal for the money.  I am looking to spend less than $13K. > -- next part

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

I'm not a vehicle leasing type, but if that's something you might consider, try looking here: https://insideevs.com/features/410039/best-electric-car-deals-this-month/ David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

.5) Nissan Leaf's...they have less range but can be had in the 8k-10k range. [But mostly useful as an around town car due to smaller battery capacity and lower range.] Jay On 8/19/24 14:15, Mark Laity-Snyder via EV wrote: I am interested in getting a cheap EV.  What are your favorite EVs th

[EVDL] Used EVs

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[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-powered Porsche

Who says EV conversion is dead? Here's a kit to improve a Porsche 911. Warning: you'll need rather deep pockets. https://insideevs.com/news/730253/porsche-911-964-ev-conversion/ David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my off

Re: [EVDL] Reverse voltage spikes (was: Tesla contactors Re: pre-charge)

to a metal vapor mist... Cor. On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 6:29 PM Bill Dube via EV wrote: > > As an aside, I would like to note that the reverse voltage spike that > occurs when you switch off power to coils, motors, etc. on the 12 volt > side of things must be dealt with. The magnetic

[EVDL] Reverse voltage spikes (was: Tesla contactors Re: pre-charge)

on its own.     I have seen all sorts of "mysterious" failures of all sorts of 12 volt devices that "mysteriously" vanished when these reverse voltage spikes on coils were properly addressed. Bill D. On 8/17/2024 3:47 AM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Yes, all EV contractors

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

at 3:04 AM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I believe the Tesla onboard charger is always connected, both to the > charge port and to the battery. The only contactors I saw in the box > regulating the power are the two contactors for the Supercharging, > which uses the same charging inlet

Re: [EVDL] Tesla contactors Re: pre-charge

. You don't want fixed freewheeling diodes across your coil if you ever expect to break a load, as it will cause the coil to release slowly. Yes, you absolutely cannot just connect the coils to 12v, they will burn up. On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 5:06 PM Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > I was wond

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

battery from the rest of the car. On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:20 PM Bill Dube via EV wrote: > > >>> Comments on your advice <<< > All good advice with a couple of minor oversights: > > 1) Manzanita chargers have a substantial output capacitance. (I use one > to cha

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: You don't like spiders and snakes?

DENNIS Owner via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Just as an amusing aside, there was a marmot that took up residence in our > Chevy Volt last year. Once the garage door was closed, he couldn't get > out, so he ransacked the contents of the garage, knocking over just about > ev

[EVDL] Tesla contactors Re: pre-charge

I was wondering if most EV's keep chargers connected to pack full time. I want mine disconnected unless charging so that there is no pack voltage outside the battery box (charger is in the cab). I have the DC fast charge contactors from a Tesla Model 3. They seem to be custom made by Gigavac.

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

of those BMS units, and left them partially brain damaged. Sad story. :-( On 8/16/2024 3:25 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Precharging isn't as simple as it first appears. Here are a few things off the top of my head: Precharge circuits *must* used DC-rated parts with an appropriate voltage

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: No good deed goes unpunished

T, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: >In France, vehicle registration costs are based on the car's puissance >fiscal, literally "fiscal [horse]power." The number is calculated from a >formula that considers actual drivetrain power ih HP (surprisingly not KW), >and the rate

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: You don't like spiders and snakes?

Oddly, when I opened the garage door, instead of leaving, he would climb back under the hood and stay there. Bill On Thu, 15 Aug, 2024 at 10:25 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: evp...@drmm.net Then you might want to check under your brand new Tesla Model 3, if you

[EVDL] EVLN: No good deed goes unpunished

In France, vehicle registration costs are based on the car's puissance fiscal, literally "fiscal [horse]power." The number is calculated from a formula that considers actual drivetrain power ih HP (surprisingly not KW), and the rated carbon emissions. However, EVs get a total pass - registra

[EVDL] EVLN: You don't like spiders and snakes?

Then you might want to check under your brand new Tesla Model 3, if you live in Florida. Tesla is reportedly storing unsold new Model 3s in long-grass fields, which can invite spiders, snakes, rats, and other critters to take up residence in the cars. Full story: https://www.thedrive.com/ne

[EVDL] EVLN: Drive electric < $10k

Remember the days of cheap Nissan Leaves when the 2011 - 2014 models fell off lease? Cheap used EVs a're back, but this time with much more usable range: some used Chevrolet Bolts are now selling for under US$10k. There's also a used EV credit. Depending on your income, that could drop the pri

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

Precharging isn't as simple as it first appears. Here are a few things off the top of my head: Precharge circuits *must* used DC-rated parts with an appropriate voltage rating. An AC-rated switch, relay, or fuse will fail *on*! If the switch or relay fails "on", the precharge resistor can overh

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

y module. I have a bundle of Leaf pre-charge > resistors so let me know if you need one or a couple. > Cor. > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 5:21 PM Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am going to have a Manzanita PFC40 charger behind the passe

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

module. I have a bundle of Leaf pre-charge resistors so let me know if you need one or a couple. Cor. On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 5:21 PM Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > > > > > I am going to have a Manzanita PFC40 charger behind the passenger seat > in my S-10 pickup. > > I wan

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

On 8/14/2024 5:20 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: I am going to have a Manzanita PFC40 charger behind the passenger seat in my S-10 pickup. I want pack voltage connected only when charging. I will use a contactor for that. Make ABSOLUTELY SURE that the pack is connected BEFORE the PFC-50

[EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

I am going to have a Manzanita PFC40 charger behind the passenger seat in my S-10 pickup. I want pack voltage connected only when charging. I will use a contactor for that. I am assuming I will need a pre-charge resistor, relay and fuse to limit inrush current. A 200 ohm resistor woul

[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Cybertruck prices raised

Also, the $61k base model is no more. So now you need at least $100k to get into the clubhouse. But if you have the fat wallet, you can have a CT right away. https://jalopnik.com/tesla-cuts-base-cybertruck-raises-all-prices-by-20-00- 1851618492 shortcut: https://cntp.me/JymM7y3 If you've pre-

Re: [EVDL] Charging Port Locations

> Although the Bolt says no towing, guess I’m always voiding warranties. That's the spirit, Mark! :-) Loose the screws, cut the cable. Take it apart as best you're able. Void the warranty, hack the code. Reuse, rewire, rebuild, reload! Lee Hart ___ A

Re: [EVDL] Charging port locations

drive into a spot I'm trying to back into. Neither confusion nor anger has any place in driving, so I try to avoid causing them. On August 8, 2024 1:18:59 p.m. CST, Collin Kidder via EV wrote: >Well, I despise people who back into parking spots. So, there's that. It's >proba

[EVDL] Charging Port Locations

at Mr BigShotEngineer Elon doesn't want Teslas to have? Rear cross traffic radar. Rear cross traffic radar is great. Between that and 4-way cameras I don't feel like backing out of spots is any big deal at all. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 12:39?PM (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > What I don't

Re: [EVDL] Charging port locations

spots is any big deal at all. On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 12:39 PM (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > What I don't understand is WHY this way is the minority? Is it because > people just don't think that far ahead? Is it because I'm an Engineer and > I have EBS? (Engineer Brain Syn

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