The 100 square miles of solar panels in Arizona was simply an example for
scale... What you would actually do is use all of the existing modern
structures roof area, which is very likely some factor greater up to
perhaps an order more than the 100 square miles of surface area... Then
humanity
Yes, he stated they would need storage facilities, that’s obvious because of
nightfall.
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 6:28 PM, Michael Ross
wrote:
Musk proposed a seat of the pants estimate in an interview about how much solar
array surface area would
Musk proposed a seat of the pants estimate in an interview about how much
solar array surface area would produce as much energy as THE ENTIRE HUMAN
RACE.
He used the output of average solar equipment at less than optimal
output (I forget, maybe it was 15% efficient cells).
I did my own seat of
Elon Musk said he can power the whole US with 100 square miles on solar panels
in Arizona
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On Monday, November 6, 2023, 12:41 PM, Michael Ross via EV
wrote:
I note a couple things about Zeihan's POV: He is talking about global
defossilizing. Not mere
On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:40 PM 63urban via EV wrote:
> Please explain how a flammable gas is not an energy source?
Propane, from the gas in a well - capture it, light it, it burns and heat
is released. There are tons of calories in oil or natural gas.
Hydrogen cracked from the gas and oil
Michael Ross wrote:
> All the comments on this thread have failed to actually understand
> what he is talking about, or even watch it, seemingly.
I watched it, and think I do understand his point. Our high-tech society is
using up huge amounts of resources for quick and easy short-term gains. It
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not a green success. What? Hydrogen is NOT an alternative to Nuclear!
Hydrogen is a STORAGE MEDIUM, not an energy source! Just like a battery
pack, something needs to charge it (generate the hydrogen).Not to get too far
off base, but Nuclear does not rea
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> michael.e.r...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV's not a green success. I
> note a couple things about Zeihan's POV: He is talking about
> globaldefossilizing. Not mere vehicle electrification. We face the fact
> that EVsare just a small p
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[EVDL] EV's not a green success. I note a couple things about Zeihan's POV: He
is talking about globaldefossilizing. Not mere vehicle electrification. We face
the fact that EVsare just a small part of what needs solving.If he
I note a couple things about Zeihan's POV: He is talking about global
defossilizing. Not mere vehicle electrification. We face the fact that EVs
are just a small part of what needs solving.
If he is correct, and his business is doing the math, we need to work on
things that have a possibility of
On 11/5/2023 8:18 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
On 5 Nov 2023 at 8:49, Thos True via EV wrote:
I'm not an engineer, but I suspect that the main concern isn't so much the
total energy used as the peak load.
Which is why the larger Tesla sites have Megapacks installed.
I think it's likely in
On 5 Nov 2023 at 8:49, Thos True via EV wrote:
> I find it difficult to believe that we are once again being drawn into
> the argument that the grid cannot support the demand for EV's ... Most
> vehicles use around the same amount of electricity per charge as
> running a dryer for a couple of
I find it difficult to believe that we are once again being drawn into the
argument that the grid cannot support the demand for EV's.
Society has been in this situation several times since the early 1900's.
With each new electrical product's popularity (televisions, refrigerators,
air
Well, once again, it looks like the thread has strayed from EV's into
politics...
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EV List Lackey wrote -
> "To understand the Republican party, or the Democratic party, for that matter,
it is
On 4 Nov 2023 at 11:51, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote:
> > Part of the problem is that our "leaders" are actually followers.
>
> Entirely true and as it should be, after all we elect our leaders and
> they are supposed to follow the will of the people.
You (and I) wish. Nope; they follow the
> Part of the problem is that our "leaders" are actually followers.
Entirely true and as it should be, after all we elect our leaders and they are
supposed to follow the will of the people. And if we don't think they are
'following' us, then we don't re-elect them as was the case with trump (one
> Gloom and doom... wow. Innovation breeds innovation!
> Of course based on what we see today things are impossible.
> But with each step forward the creative juices flow.
So true! Part of the problem is that our "leaders" are actually followers. They
follow the polls, they follow the money,
group I am at times
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Date: 2023-11-03 10:30 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: Michael Ross Subject: [EVDL]
EV's
I found a lot of faults with his assessment, but he's a sharp guy.
He doesn't understand that even if coal powers an EV it's still cleaner
than ICE. He also doesn't think the grid can support EVs, which is also
not true.
As far as materials, when there's a demand, the market will provide.
On
I can't evaluate this. But I approve of the broad stroke analysis.
He thinks it could take a century to replace ICE with EVs. Among other
things.
Why EVs Aren't The GreenTech Panacea || Peter Zeihan
https://youtu.be/8P95NFlAnmY?si=T460QtOCo9lwqfsz
Bottom line for him, we should be spending our
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