Sure, but what is crazy about this situation is that people *want* to buy the
blessed thing, the reviews are all very good and the engineering faultless
(apparently) and here is this chap Sergio Marchionne saying basically that he
can't be bothered to work out a way to make money selling the
For sure the economies of scale are not there yet. If you are a buyer of
shares in companies - the prospect of profits is the main thing - or really
even better (if you are an RD driven company) - the prospects of high free
cash flow.
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV
I think you're missing my point. I understand it's not free. But if you were
to apply Fiat's accounting to other situations, nobody should ever launch a new
product or start a company because it's guaranteed to sell at a loss for the
first few months/years after it hits production, regardless
My point is, and I am able to evaluate this having had a fairly close
vantage point, no car can be made profitable without sufficient volume.
And it is very easy to make a car that has almost no profit associated
with it - ask GM.
This is a compliance car - that means it is not going to carry
http://autos.aol.com/article/fiat-chryler-ceo-please-dont-buy-the-fiat-500e/
Fiat-Chryler CEO: Please Don't Buy The Fiat 500e
May 21, 2014
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The 500e is costing Fiat $14,000
It seems way too soon to expect that it would be profitable yet.
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On May 23, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Zeke Yewdall via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Does anyone have any idea how Nissan is doing profitwise, on the similarly
priced Leaf? They're selling really well around here (I
How exactly is it that Fiat can't produce a teensy car with a tiny battery for
less than $46k when small (i.e. lacking economies of scale) upstart Tesla is
able to rake in 25% gross margins on a massive, high-performance luxury car
with 3x the battery that starts at 70k (which puts the
No, there is no economy of scale with the low numbers they are building.
That is a fact.
I developed cam and crank sensors for a while. The tooling for a cam
sensor with 10 small components in it (I am even counting tiny neo magnets
and some discreet electronic components and an IC) will easily
