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2021-12-07 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Or you can buy your own vaccuum pump, around here buying all of the equipment needed was a fraction of the cost of hiring someone to install it. As for whether or not it's legal for individuals install freon, it depens on where you live. Arizona has a long history of thumbing it's nose and

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2021-12-04 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Dec 04 16:27:53 PST 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >To make this on-topic, I've wondered whether a mini-split heat pump could be >adapted for an EV conversion. They're usually 240v so their inverters might >be able to accept input from some of the higher voltage EV batteries. I've >heard of

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2021-12-04 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 4 Dec 2021 at 18:03, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > But it would seem that th length of the lines will make a difference > in the degree of charging. I'm not an expert, but when I looked into splits for my home about 8 years ago, I read that the charge did indeed have to be adjusted for

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2021-12-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
But it would seem that th length of the lines will make a difference in the degree of charging. Maybe they have a huge reservoir? I'd think the mmain unit does not contain any more piping inside than the lines outside so there is a lof of difference depending on how long the lines are? Bob On

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2021-12-04 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
We have a ventless clothes dryer. We run a portable fan to blow the hot air into the house in winter. Lawrence Rhodes ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub

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2021-12-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Indeed, efficiency is the key. That is why I was not too worried about using the existing gas connection for heating purposes, but switching to heatpump appliances (which *move* easily 4x the amount of heat they consume) makes them an easy winner in terms of efficiency. As for using gas for

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2021-12-03 Thread nathan christiansn via EV
The problem I have with using electricity for heat is that as an entire system, it is less efficient unless your electricity usage is 100% covered by solar panels. However, heat pumps may be an exception to this - it probably depends on where you live. I am not entirely sure. For example, say

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2021-12-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
John, My experience too that most experts don't like small/repair jobs (unless it is on their own systems). Luckily I have a good friend who owns a small HVAC business, so we made the deal of me and my son doing all the grunt work, saving him a lot of time that he does not have as he is good and

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2021-12-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Fri Dec 03 16:09:16 PST 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >The new outdoor unit that I installed just required the unit to be >pumped to vacuum and checked for maintaining vacuum, which tells you 2 >things: no leaks and no foreign materials that are outgassing/boiling >in the lines. Then it is just

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2021-12-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
The new outdoor unit that I installed just required the unit to be pumped to vacuum and checked for maintaining vacuum, which tells you 2 things: no leaks and no foreign materials that are outgassing/boiling in the lines. Then it is just a matter of opening the built-in reservoir to release the

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2021-12-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Fri Dec 03 13:59:11 PST 2021 bruni...@usna.edu said: >How do you do the freon by DIY? >On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 11:04 AM John Lussmyer via EV wrote: >> Or, if you want one that just works both ways automatically, just buy one of >> the Mini-Split heatpump systems off Amazon and install it

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2021-12-03 Thread Steves via EV
The units are pre charged for a certain amount of pipe length. You still need to evacuate the pipes before opening up the system so you need an HVAC person . -Steve > On Dec 3, 2021, at 7:00 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 3 Dec 2021 at 16:59, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > >> How

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2021-12-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 3 Dec 2021 at 16:59, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > How do you do the freon by DIY? >From what I've read, illegally. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt

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2021-12-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
How do you do the freon by DIY? Bob On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 11:04 AM John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > On Fri Dec 03 07:56:13 PST 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: > >BEST DEAL IS FINDING a dual hose or single hose portable AC and pui tting it > >outside to blow inside. Or put itin the basement or

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2021-12-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 2 Dec 2021 at 22:47, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > We have a gas clothes dryer as that freed up the 30A circuit to power > a Level 2 charging station (see, this post is still on-topic) also > because our house connection is only 100A, so we need to be efficient > with our electricity.

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2021-12-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Fri Dec 03 07:56:13 PST 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >BEST DEAL IS FINDING a dual hose or single hose portable AC and pui tting it >outside to blow inside. Or put itin the basement or unused (OK to be cold) >room >and let the hot side hose blow up into your occupied space. Or, if you want

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2021-12-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Using a heat pump instead of space heaters would save THREE times in cost. Several DIY ways to do it. A Heatpump and an old AC unit are the same thing, just depends on which way you put it in the window! I pickup used AC units along the street and there is never anything wrong with the

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2021-12-03 Thread Rod Hower via EV
"we still stay within Baseline consumption, which means less than about 10kWh a day."I use 10kWh to drive 21 miles to work each day one way with my 2014 Chevy Volt, another 10kWh to drive home! On Friday, December 3, 2021, 02:10:06 AM EST, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: We have been

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2021-12-02 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
We have been converting over a decade. Solar panels about 15 years ago. Cost too much and too small. However it makes it big difference when you can do a lot of chores using 120vac appliances. We replaced the 1935 electric water heater with a new one in 2015. We bought a used Bosch ventless

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2021-12-02 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I see it is dedicated to San Francisco area. Home electrification is going to happen. I have lived in an apartment that did not have a gas connection. In our current home, I replaced the dying central gas heater and unrepairable airco with a modern Panasonic 5-zone heatpump, so we still have an

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2021-12-02 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
https://nextdoor.com/g/cd7f0gycj/  People here discuss issues relating to 100% electric homes. So far so good for us. $450 total energy cost last year. Transportation and house.  Lawrence Rhodes ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other