Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-21 Thread David Rees via EV
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Michael Ross michael.e.r...@gmail.com wrote: Where were you able to learn these xVolts = y%SOC? I logged them from my LEAF using a CAN bus reader (both LeafDD and Leaf Spy). -Dave ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-21 Thread David Rees via EV
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Paul Dove dov...@bellsouth.net wrote: Electrolyte breakdown occurs over 4.17 volts I couldn't tell you exactly when electrolyte breakdown occurs on the LEAF cells, but I can pretty much guarantee that it will vary depending on things like temperature, voltage and

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Ross via EV
A word of warning then - a scientific paper may not represent what is actually manufactured, particularly if much time has elapsed. A year or two out of date I might worry. There is more to it than only the positive electrode chemistry. Electrolyte chemistry, construction details and so on. On

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-21 Thread Paul Dove via EV
4.17 comes from a Scientific paper. I am not home right now to attach a copy but when I get back Thursday I will Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2015, at 4:23 AM, Michael Ross michael.e.r...@gmail.com wrote: I think really knowing this about Li ion cells is critical. Anecdotal is not good

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I think really knowing this about Li ion cells is critical. Anecdotal is not good enough, being wrong about the electrode chemistry is to be wrong about critical information. Knowing how to avoid 100% SOC is critical. A perfectly fine pack can be misused and its life ruined. On Tue, Apr 21,

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-20 Thread Michael Ross via EV
-David, Where were you able to learn these xVolts = y%SOC? I think you are very right about the max voltage, I don't what numbers are right for a given version of any cell, but I am certain that 0.2V too high can really mess things up. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:42 PM, David Rees via EV

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-20 Thread David Rees via EV
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:16 PM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I’m finally getting the new pack together and it’s made up of Leaf cells. What voltage range should these cells have? I want to be conservative and make this new pack last a very long time. The LEAF charges them up to 4.10V on

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-20 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Electrolyte breakdown occurs over 4.17 volts Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2015, at 8:42 PM, David Rees via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:16 PM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I’m finally getting the new pack together and it’s made up of Leaf cells. What voltage

[EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-19 Thread via EV
I’m finally getting the new pack together and it’s made up of Leaf cells. What voltage range should these cells have? I want to be conservative and make this new pack last a very long time. Bruce ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-19 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage I am curious, do we know the electrode composition for Leaf cells? On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Jay Summet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Absolute max 4.2 volts per cell. (Note