Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-17 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 10/14/2021 20:09, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: It's possible to get reasonable radio reception on the FM band. I had a Honda del Sol conversion with an Elcon DC-DC converter that had reasonable reception on FM. FM is not a big problem.  AM is a HUGE problem.  Both the operating frequency

[EVDL] Radio noise issue, proper EMI design

2021-10-15 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi folks All the EVs I’ve converted over the years until 2011 , Electro Metro, Cushman, Cheese Wedge, Geo Tracker, Porsche 914, Karmann Ghia, I was able to pick up all radio stations including AM but mostly listen to NPR on low band FM. I used to design switching power supplies and class D

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-14 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
were in the trunk and half under the hood, with cables running through the transmission tunnel. Mike -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of nathan christiansn via EV Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:36 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: nathan christiansn Subject: Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-14 Thread nathan christiansn via EV
Interestingly enough, the noise is coming in on the FM band. I like Jay’s idea of a separate 12v battery and a 2p2t switch - just need to find a place for the other battery. Thanks for all your suggestions, Nathan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-14 Thread David Chapman via EV
Well the only solution then is to encase the AM radio in Cavorite. Or listen to media on your phone as you suggested earlier... Dach. "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are" - Theodore Roosevelt “We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes I

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-14 Thread Bill Dube via EV
There is zero hope for an AM radio to function correctly in a home built EV. You are inside a metal box next to a 100 kW unshielded broadband AM radio transmitter. Many of the early OEM EV's simply didn't have an AM radio at all, for just this issue. Bill D. On 10/15/2021 1:03 AM, paul

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-14 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Separate small (motorcycle sized) 12v battery behind a 2p2t switch to separate both positive & negative lines powering the radio only. Turn switch on to charge battery from DC2DC, turn off when you want to listen to the radio. [If the interference really is only coming along the power

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-14 Thread paul dove via EV
Try connecting the radio to a separate battery isolated from the vehicle  Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 6:48 PM, nathan christiansn via EV wrote: Hello Everyone, I have a Geo Metro that I converted electric and the radio has never been able to pick up

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Forget about it. THink of the converter as a 10 kW Pulse RDIO TRANSMITTER. Unless car is designed from ground up to eliminate EMI, it just is impossible. Bob On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 7:48 PM nathan christiansn via EV wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I have a Geo Metro that I converted electric

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Oh by the way, I too have a lightly used Geo Metro Tracker 1996 in Glen Burnie Md that is going on the market soon. 4 wheel drive, etc. Still gas though... Bob On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 8:19 PM Bill Dube via EV wrote: > > Radio, particularly AM, is a lost cause on home conversions. The EMI and >

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread Bill Dube via EV
AM radio will pick up EMI via the antenna. A portable AM radio won't work in a homebuilt EV. No hope. A small portable AM radio is a very useful sensor for crude EMI leak detection. Tune to a vacant portion on the dial and move the radio around the device to find were EMI is leaking out.

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Could you power the radio from its own battery? Charge it separately with its own charger. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Radio, particularly AM, is a lost cause on home conversions. The EMI and RFI is just to difficult for the home converter to deal with. Takes serious and time consuming work on shielding and filtering of the EV components and wiring to get it down to a level where you can listen to an ordinary

Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread nathan christiansn via EV
I forgot to add - I would like to avoid getting a new dc-dc converter if possible. Nathan On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 5:48 PM nathan christiansn wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have a Geo Metro that I converted electric and the radio has never been > able to pick up more than one station because of

[EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread nathan christiansn via EV
Hello Everyone, I have a Geo Metro that I converted electric and the radio has never been able to pick up more than one station because of all the noise the dc-dc converter outputs. I have been able to verify that the noise is being picked up through the 12 volt input of the radio and not through