Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: - - Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame... I've watched some of the Rich Rebuilds videos. I wouldn't characterize his style as being overly concerned with subtlety, care, or safety. Some of the more scary points of the videos I watched

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread - - via EV
d way... ignite the hydrogen  > > Damon > > From: EV on behalf of Matthew Quitter via EV > > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 9:30 AM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Matthew Quitter > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame... &g

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread Damon Henry via EV
From: EV on behalf of Matthew Quitter via EV Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 9:30 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Matthew Quitter Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame... I still don’t know what actually caused the fault

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
4, 2018 9:40 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Matthew Quitter Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame... I still don’t know what actually caused the fault. From what I watched on the video and previous ones on that project they’re still in the preliminary

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread Matthew Quitter via EV
I still don’t know what actually caused the fault. From what I watched on the video and previous ones on that project they’re still in the preliminary planning stages. It appears the pack was not connected to anything, just placed in the car. Is that correct? Which would suggest it

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Not that I want to start an argument, but IMO those folks who say "I don't need no stinkin' BMS!" should be required to watch the hot action part of that video clip at least once -- just so they give it a little more thought. The "live ammo" question from the firefighters is telling. It DID

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
t; Sent: 04-Dec-18 3:39:11 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame... He has a you tube channel called Rich Rebuilds where he documented the whole thing. They didn’t even tie the batteries down they were just laying in the back Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-04 Thread paul dove via EV
He has a you tube channel called Rich Rebuilds where he documented the whole thing. They didn’t even tie the batteries down they were just laying in the back Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:57 PM, Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: > > Listen especially to the end of that video. >

Re: [EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Listen especially to the end of that video. Not only no BMS, but also no coolant, for which the Tesla pack was designed. I presume it was (over) charging the cells when it went into runaway, turning the cells into something resembling live ammo (per the question from the FD). Saw the burning cell

[EVDL] Tesla battery cells (no BMS) burst into flame...

2018-12-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Video of a pair of 444-cell Tesla modules going into thermal runaway after being used to replace lead acid batteries. It had no BMS on it (I suspect it was charging when it burst into flames). They have video from the surveillance camera system and it's quite an impressive show