Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging) Optimizers - NOT!)

2019-09-02 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Avoid "Optimizers" like the plague! They generate horrendous radio frquency interference, blocking AM and Shortwave and Ham raido HF communication for blocks. It cannot be fixed without removing every panel and re-doiong all the HV wiring into twisted pairs and having RFI chokes on every wire

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging)

2019-09-02 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Related question: I have solar panels, but they each have a DC optimizer on them (basically does MPPT and production level measurement on a per panel basis, but sends DC down to the wall mounted inverter). When the grid is down, the (Solar Edge SE 10KW) inverter shuts down, and the DC

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging)

2019-09-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Well, if it's current that varies, it makes sense. Maybe I misunderstood, but your prior post says "any voltage from 0 up to...". Bob is right; PV panels do behave somewhat like a current source. If you look at a graph of voltage vs. current at some fixed light

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging)

2019-09-02 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
e battery is up to max voltage, you need to disconnect or you will > destroy the cells. > > Peri > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Cc: "Robert Bruninga" > Sent: 0

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging)

2019-09-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Sent: 02-Sep-19 8:31:26 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging) Solar cells are current sources. Their current is linear with light level not the voltage. The voltage is between about 0.55 volts per cell under no load, down to about 0.45 volts un

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging)

2019-09-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
to disconnect or you will destroy the cells. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Robert Bruninga" Sent: 02-Sep-19 7:20:27 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar? (constant current charging)

2019-09-02 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
One final point about grid down charging (under a must have armagedon scenario): (And only for those fully experienced in HVDC) Remember that Solar panels are current limited power sources. This means It will provide its rated current at ANY voltage from 0 (short circuit) up to its nominal

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar?

2019-09-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Again, if you find a 72v UPS (6 12v batteries) then you can tap your arrays in groups of three and use that to provide the current to the UPS to dirive your car charger. Just 9 panels in 3 parallel strings of 90v will give maybe 20 amps (or the minimum needed to charge L1) But 12 panels (or

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar?

2019-09-01 Thread Larry Gales via EV
This is probably overkill for your particular needs, as it is based on Tesla Model 3 cars, but here is the URL of a recent talk I gave on V2G: https://staff.washington.edu/larryg/Energy/SEVA-V2G.pptx On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 9:28 AM Damon Henry via EV wrote: > I know there has been a lot of

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar?

2019-09-01 Thread Willie via EV
On 9/1/19 1:10 PM, Willie wrote: Here is some discussion of augmenting a microgrid (or real grid) with EV 12v: I don't know where that come from https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/audio-album-artwork-not-appearing.12635/ Maybe this will be the right one:

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar?

2019-09-01 Thread Willie via EV
On 9/1/19 11:28 AM, Damon Henry via EV wrote: I know there has been a lot of churn the last few years over Vehicle to Grid technology. I'm not sure how many people really want the utilities to take over their vehicle state of charge, so I'm not sure how viable the whole concept is. With

Re: [EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar?

2019-09-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
You already have what you need for continuous operation at night in the 1 kW class (refrigerator, well pump and lights, etc) See http://aprs.org/powerwheels.html But it assumes you have the Sunny Boy GT inverter with "secure" power when the grid goes down to charge your EV. $1500 Or if you are

[EVDL] V2G for my grid tied solar?

2019-09-01 Thread Damon Henry via EV
I know there has been a lot of churn the last few years over Vehicle to Grid technology. I'm not sure how many people really want the utilities to take over their vehicle state of charge, so I'm not sure how viable the whole concept is. With my grid tied solar system my solar stops producing