[EVDL] Drinking electricity: ... EVangel-about: sa Tesla Supercharger
I forgot to mention, on my way back, I swung by SA's superEVSE again. I parked a row over in the ice area to watch the Tesla EVs coming & going. It looked a lot like what I'll see when I plant Texas-native flowering/pollinator plants at my home, where honey/native-wild/ bumble/ground bees, butterflies, & hummingbirds will be darting on and off the flowers, sipping energy-filled nectar. Find yourself a superEVSE, and watch the EVs drink electricity :-) -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Home EVSE, genset: ... EVangel-about: sa Tesla Supercharger
Today, I spent my limited physical energy hooking up with my realtor to
view 3 homes on the east side of I-10 not too far from the VA hospital/
medical-center, as I'm going to need them more and more as I age.
While looking at these older homes (I can get a new home for about the
same money, but a new home has a restrictive hoa that wouldn't let me
make changes to my own property ... -weird-), with both an eye of how
much I'll have to fix-it-up/get rid of junk, but the fun part of where to
put
in the EVSE to charge an EV, and where I'd install a nat-gas/ch4 genset
for when a hurricane or lightening strike knocks out power for days.
While most of the EVLN newswires I post about production e-trucks &
e-vans still seem to be 'in the future', at some point, I would like to get
one with an auton feature. I know eventually the va will throw an
e-mobility cart at me, and help me install a loading device (i.e.: a
swing arm loader inside the truck bed that picks up the e-mobility, and
allows me to swing it around to drop into the truck bed).
With the advanced auton/ai feature, I could tell the EV to take me to the
hospital, or pre program a far away EVent/show for it to self-drive to (i.e.
if I want to go to Austin, Dallas, +more, wouldn't worry about nodding
off on the Hwy -safety first-).
So, it was fun to briefly think of where to install the EVSE: inside the
garage, or out? The distance to nearby VA or shopping would not drain
the EV's pack. Which means I could join the charging-at-home-off-L1
club.
The EV would likely have a L1 EVSE to carry along. I would swap that out
for the previously posted dual L1&2-3kW EVSE. The L1 for use at home,
and the other everywhere else (with a small gym-bag full of outlet
adapters).
Which leads me to the outdoor genset. I am assuming that even when
the electrical power goes out, water and natural gas (ch4) will still flow.
Which means I can power a home genset off ch4 when needed.
But what size home genset? I know how to live off a TT-30 (3kW) outlet
electrical power source (I'm quite good at conserving and minimizing
my polluting). My power load worst case would be either during the
hottest or coldest time of the year, where I'll have a combination
Air-conditioner/heater unit that plugs into a 6-20 outlet, plus one
5-20 outlet to power the refrigerator, & communications (phone, TV,
etc.). I'm thinking a 6kW rated genset running at reduced load would
work well.
I don't want to get too grandiose/let my mind run away with thoughts,
but if money permits, having a home 'power-wall' type buffer, either
fed off the grid or a genset, would keep power-use management
smoother (higher power use when awake, less when asleep, etc.).
I still have more homes to look at west of I-10, and that will be
delayed because of that tooth-yanking, but I hope to be living in my
own home does eventually happen.
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[EVDL] Wireless EVSE for Fremont-CA PD: ... Tesla Pursuit cut short
I received a reply from the Fremont-CA PD pr-rep. Since she be forwarding my
suggestions, if their management is interested to ensure PD EVs get their
charging without worrying about human forgetfulness, I just sent her the
links
below to aid their process:
sources
https://www.pluglesspower.com/shop/reserve-tesla-model-s/
Tesla-s
https://www.pluglesspower.com/shop/
for other plugin models
https://witricity.com/products/automotive/
11kW
links
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/17/a-conversation-with-witricity-ceo-alex-gruzen-cleantechnica-exclusive/
A Conversation With WiTricity CEO Alex Gruzen ...
Feb 17, 2019 - “WiTricity's wireless charging technology is key to the
future of mobility which is ... When asked if Tesla is onboard with the
whole wireless thing, ...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2019/05/03/wireless-electric-vehicle-charging-puts-an-end-to-range-arms-race/
https://www.techradar.com/news/wireless-electric-vehicle-charging
Wireless electric vehicle charging explained
https://www.google.com/search?q=wireless+charger+electric+car
search on wireless charger electric car
https://www.google.com/search?q=wireless+charger+electric+vehicle
...
https://www.google.com/search?q=wireless+charger+electric+ev
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Re: [EVDL] Negative visibility> humans not plugging in Tesla PD chase EV
Peter C. Thompson wrote: They have chargers that can operate up to 11 kW, and effeciencies around 92 to 93%. If I remember correctly, BMW is using this charger for some high-end EVs. Not sure who Daimler is going with. I would like to see some independent confirmation of this. 92-93% is hard to achieve even with a *wired* charger. I suspect this is a marketing number, where the test conditions are carefully chosen to produce the best possible value (one of those "up to..." figures). 92-93% efficiency is about what I would expect for just the transformer alone of a switchmode power supply. And "wireless charging" is fundamentally just a transformer. -- There is a computer disease that anybody who works with computers knows about. It's very serious, and interferes completely with your work. The trouble with computers is that you 'play' with them! (Richard Feynman) -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Mallory Moench EV Card article in the San Francisco Chronicle Sunday coming.
There is supposed to be an article in Sunday's Chronicle about how many cards it takes to charge an electric car. It might be in the business section with pictures of yours truly holding themg up. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20191004/86100b3f/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Negative visibility> humans not plugging in Tesla PD chase EV
Very impressive!
Is that 92-93% as efficient as wired chargers.(Sorry, I’m just not up on
efficiency numbers).
- Mark
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> On Oct 4, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Peter C. Thompson wrote:
>
> They have chargers that can operate up to 11 kW, and effeciencies around 92
> to 93%. If I remember correctly, BMW is using this charger for some high-end
> EVs. Not sure who Daimler is going with.
>
> Cheers!
>
>> On 10/3/19 5:38 PM, Mark Abramowitz wrote:
>> Is charging wirelessly less efficient or take more time?
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Peter C. Thompson via EV
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For other devices that charge wirelessly, check out Witricity.com. I used
>>> to work for a competitor of theirs
>>>
>>> Cheers, Peter
>>>
On 10/3/19 11:57 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
Last Tuesday when I swung by to check-out the new
San Antonio SuperEVSE ...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVangel-about-San-Antonio-TX-Tesla-Supercharger-site-Watt-me-worry-tp4695295.html
EVangel-about: San_Antonio-TX Tesla Supercharger site ... (Watt-me-worry)
Just before I ended my chat with the Tesla EV drivers, a
white pick-up truck (ice) pulled up in front of the visiting
San_Diego Tesla-3 EV (it had vendor/contractor markings like
it worked for the city, looking similar to
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/71/35/45/15063406/3/1024x1024.jpg
)
With the truck driver's his arm stretched out as to point to the Tesla
EVs, the truck driver yelled out asking 'You heard about the Tesla
police car that couldn't do a high speed chase ...
The two EV drivers were take back from responding, but
since I had already posted this:
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Change-PD-policy2-80SOC-shift-beginning-Tesla-Pursuit-cut-short-tp4695194.html
I quickly yelled back, 'I know all about this ... The
problem wasn't the Tesla.
It was the officers not plugging it in (I wanted to
elaborate like, 'You know, you don't go out on a job
when you need to fill your truck's tank first' ... but I could
see I'd lose his short-attention-span, so I didn't).
I did end the answer with a cell phone analogy he likely
could have related to. I said, 'There is a way to not have
to plug it in.' Pointing to the Tesla-3 EV's hood, 'You
can mount a device, so that when you park your car, it
charges automatically from underneath,
https://www.google.com/search?q=wireless+charging+tesla
like the way a phone wirelessly charges.
https://www.powermat.com/technology/compatible-phones/
The guy sort of understood that, but his face still wanted
to continue the 'EVs don't work' attitude his hate-talk-radio
program had spewed. He pulled his arm in, about to leave
saying, 'So, they didn't plugin it in' ...
(It seemed he got the message that the humans have to
do their part).
At least this was a better statement (more the truth) than
back in the 1990-2000's when automakers were pushing
hybrids (hevs) saying 'you never need to plug them in'.
The truck driver could have said, 'You still have-to
plug them in ...'.
After 30 years, perhaps that is a little progress from way
back then.
IMO, this newsitem was spread too far and wide
https://www.google.com/search?q=Fremont+Police+Department+tesla
to not be the work of the anti-EV koch-kool-aid machine.
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/29/fremont-police-department-pushes-back-about-tesla-low-battery-fud/
A push-back news item ... loosely translated says,
“Can everyone please calm down?” ...
Anyone wanting to suggest to Fremont PD to use wireless charging
to offset officers not plugging in, and since it is an 85 to change PD
policy to not take it out unless it is 80% charged (80%SOC) can
find their pr person contact info on
https://www.fremontpolice.org/index.aspx?NID=170
https://www.pluglesspower.com/learn/wireless-ev-charging-works-tesla-model-s/
...
https://www.google.com/search?q=inductive+charging+tesla
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Re: [EVDL] Negative visibility> humans not plugging in Tesla PD chase EV
They have chargers that can operate up to 11 kW, and effeciencies around
92 to 93%. If I remember correctly, BMW is using this charger for some
high-end EVs. Not sure who Daimler is going with.
Cheers!
On 10/3/19 5:38 PM, Mark Abramowitz wrote:
Is charging wirelessly less efficient or take more time?
- Mark
Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
On Oct 3, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote:
For other devices that charge wirelessly, check out Witricity.com. I used to
work for a competitor of theirs
Cheers, Peter
On 10/3/19 11:57 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
Last Tuesday when I swung by to check-out the new
San Antonio SuperEVSE ...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVangel-about-San-Antonio-TX-Tesla-Supercharger-site-Watt-me-worry-tp4695295.html
EVangel-about: San_Antonio-TX Tesla Supercharger site ... (Watt-me-worry)
Just before I ended my chat with the Tesla EV drivers, a
white pick-up truck (ice) pulled up in front of the visiting
San_Diego Tesla-3 EV (it had vendor/contractor markings like
it worked for the city, looking similar to
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/71/35/45/15063406/3/1024x1024.jpg
)
With the truck driver's his arm stretched out as to point to the Tesla
EVs, the truck driver yelled out asking 'You heard about the Tesla
police car that couldn't do a high speed chase ...
The two EV drivers were take back from responding, but
since I had already posted this:
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Change-PD-policy2-80SOC-shift-beginning-Tesla-Pursuit-cut-short-tp4695194.html
I quickly yelled back, 'I know all about this ... The
problem wasn't the Tesla.
It was the officers not plugging it in (I wanted to
elaborate like, 'You know, you don't go out on a job
when you need to fill your truck's tank first' ... but I could
see I'd lose his short-attention-span, so I didn't).
I did end the answer with a cell phone analogy he likely
could have related to. I said, 'There is a way to not have
to plug it in.' Pointing to the Tesla-3 EV's hood, 'You
can mount a device, so that when you park your car, it
charges automatically from underneath,
https://www.google.com/search?q=wireless+charging+tesla
like the way a phone wirelessly charges.
https://www.powermat.com/technology/compatible-phones/
The guy sort of understood that, but his face still wanted
to continue the 'EVs don't work' attitude his hate-talk-radio
program had spewed. He pulled his arm in, about to leave
saying, 'So, they didn't plugin it in' ...
(It seemed he got the message that the humans have to
do their part).
At least this was a better statement (more the truth) than
back in the 1990-2000's when automakers were pushing
hybrids (hevs) saying 'you never need to plug them in'.
The truck driver could have said, 'You still have-to
plug them in ...'.
After 30 years, perhaps that is a little progress from way
back then.
IMO, this newsitem was spread too far and wide
https://www.google.com/search?q=Fremont+Police+Department+tesla
to not be the work of the anti-EV koch-kool-aid machine.
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/29/fremont-police-department-pushes-back-about-tesla-low-battery-fud/
A push-back news item ... loosely translated says,
“Can everyone please calm down?” ...
Anyone wanting to suggest to Fremont PD to use wireless charging
to offset officers not plugging in, and since it is an 85 to change PD
policy to not take it out unless it is 80% charged (80%SOC) can
find their pr person contact info on
https://www.fremontpolice.org/index.aspx?NID=170
https://www.pluglesspower.com/learn/wireless-ev-charging-works-tesla-model-s/
...
https://www.google.com/search?q=inductive+charging+tesla
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