Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs
On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com wrote: On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Tom Martin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: The state in turn sent you a 'Certificate' of title. The auto you bought and paid for is the property of the state. Huh? The Certificate of Title establishes *you* as owner of the car. Not the state. I think Tom might be coming from a certain Libertarian perspective that says that, if the State can confiscate or otherwise render valueless your property, especially if you stop paying taxes (rent in those circles), then it's the state that owns whatever it is. I haven't heard this applied to a vehicular title, but it's certainly a common theme with property taxes. b Hadn't heard that, but I would think that the argument wouldn't require that a Certificate of Title be issued by the state. Just stop registering your car, or don't pay your taxes. I used to work for an environmental group where the head of our office wasn't paying his taxes as a protest or something. Unfortunately, he didn't take taxes out of his check on the organization's side either. We had to pay a huge bill, and almost had to close the office to boot. Sheesh! ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Electric Solar Boat
Mike Nickerson, The 24 volts being used for the overall system voltage was a technically painful choice but needed for a salt environment. I have been shocked at 48 VDC in salt bilge water and can say that it is weird and unpleasant. There are an increasing number of marine electronics that utilize 24 to 28 volts DC as well as consumer/commercial DC/DC step downs to 12 VDC and 110v AC mod and full sine inverters. Some of that stuff was not even around 5 years ago, Moore’s Law, huh? The use of 24VDC from a PV standpoint is that the down coming voltage from the roof can be kept above the system voltage (for MPPT) whilst not being a painful shock/burn. Roof down voltage is about 30 plus VDC on one panel (5 PV modules) and 72 VDC on the other panel (6 PV modules). A Schnieder and Outback controller is used for the control of the 2 down coming voltages. The Outback is a refined MPPT (tracking the mix of current to voltage for maximum charging efficiency, Maximum Power Point Tracking). The Schnieder (was called a Trace C40) is meat and potatoes. I look forward to the total replacement of the 11 x 235 watt PVs with thin film flexibles and dropping the 72 VDC down coming voltage to about 36 VDC…… more time…. more money. The boat was designed around the roof. The gross size is about 10X26 feet but with the correct PV system I can drop from 11 huge rectangles to full coverage. Also the weight is 11 X 44 pounds which will be dropped, with the thin PVs, to a total of 140 pounds. From 484 pound to 140 pounds is a stellar achievement and reduces the inertia of rocking and the sustained lean angle. PV heat dissipation is still a trick thing and is part of the hot water heating system. History button ofhttp://www.mogcanalboat.com/ gives a bit more design insight. I sold the Onan 4Kw,1800 rpm genset a long time ago, never used it. A superb gen, it was not needed. The Lestronic 48 VDC charger was used about 5 times in 10 years and is currently used to hold down the floor tiles in the garage. I have a woefully small 24 VDC charger and have no immediate plans for a Lestronic or marine unit, but, someday though. Best to all, George Hi George, Thanks for the specifications. The 24V operation is interesting. Most cars use higher voltage and lower current. That allows smaller sized wires to carry current. However, I suspect the 24V has some benefits too. First, lower voltage is safer than higher voltage. Does the 24V integrate better with the solar cells? Seems like it might. When people ask about solar cells on a car, the typical answer is to skip them on the car and put the cells on the carport instead. The boat is big enough that it's top is probably the size of a carport. How many square feet of solar cells are on the boat? Is there charging for the batteries besides the solar panels? Mike -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150429/7e0cbd19/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Buying an EV pros cons
% UK media perspective %
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/26/should-i-buy-an-electric-car
Should I buy an electric car?
Lucy Siegle 26 April 2015
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The BMW i3, an electric car Leading the charge: a BMW i3
]
I’d like to change my fossil fuel car for a pure electric one. Will this
make a difference?
Ideally we’d sit down together and pick you out a lovely green car, like the
passive consumers we’ve been taught to be (car dealership Motorparks [
http://www.motorparks.co.uk/the-future-of-alternative-fuel-vehicles
] has a handy guide to alternative vehicles). But electric vehicles (EVs)
are never that simple.
Instead we need to look deep into your soul. Who are you? Why are you too
grand for mass transit, where you can share the emission burden? What type
of driver are you? Do you drive the short journeys EVs can cope with? After
all, “range anxiety” (worrying about running out of juice) is the bête noire
of EV drivers.
We can’t be too Pollyanna about them. They have flaws. The “zero emission”
rating [
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/05/richard-branson-net-zero-emissions-target-businesses
], for example, only applies to the tailpipe emissions. Given that you need
to plug your car into the grid, you are still responsible for upstream
emissions through power generation, and we are still far from a decarbonised
electricity grid.
A Union of Concerned Scientists Report [
http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/clean_vehicles/electric-car-global-warming-emissions-report.pdf
] from 2012 found that EVs were a “good choice” even in areas where the
power grid was dependent on coal. However, there are so many variables. A
recent Carnegie Mellon University study shows that in extreme weather
conditions EVs are less of a good choice. Their range can drop from 75 miles
to just 45 due to using battery power to heat or cool the cabin, while
petrol cars’ waste heat warms passengers. Do you need a lot of heat?
Also, can you develop an interest in battery technology? You need to care.
Lithium ion batteries (a catch-all term for at least six types of battery
chemistries) are a big part of the EV jigsaw. They’re developing fast, but
there are still trade-offs, including how they will be recycled. Nissan’s
project 4REnergy claims to give spent batteries from EVs a second life,
helping to generate solar power.
Private cars are responsible for 12% of the UK’s greenhouse gas emissions;
globally, transportation accounts for a fifth of oil usage. We know that we
need to, as the Guardian campaign [
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/series/keep-it-in-the-ground
] says, Keep It In The Ground to have a fighting chance of preventing
warming above 2C. In fact, we need to leave around 260bn barrels of oil
there. To keep on keeping on is insane.
With an EV you may feel quite lonely: EVs haven’t taken off, though by 2021
stringent EU regulations on emissions will require big carmakers to meet
range average emissions of 95g/km, so expect many more. The key is to
agitate to decarbonise the power grid. So prepare to become a campaigner as
well as an EV driver. There’s no room for passengers.
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[EVDL] EVLN: 2014-2015 Smart Fortwo EV Recall Replaces Bad Bolts
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1097898_2014-2015-smart-fortwo-coupe-convertible-and-electric-recalled-to-replace-poorly-built-bolts
2014-2015 Smart Fortwo Coupe, Convertible, And Electric Recalled To Replace
Poorly Built Bolts
By Richard Read Apr 21, 2015
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2015 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive
]
Mercedes-Benz USA is recalling 2014 and 2015 models of the Smart fortwo
microcar. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,
those vehicles might've been built with poorly made bolts, which could cause
serious problems for owners.
The bolts were made by Fontana Luigi S.p.A in Italy and were used to attach
the fortwo's steering gear. NHTSA says that the bolts don't meet endurance
requirements, leaving them open to fractures and worse:
Should a vehicle have been manufactured containing the affected bolts,
these bolts might break during the lifetime of the vehicle if exposed to
high loads in combination with vibrations. Should one of the two bolts on
the cross member break, vehicle handling would be impacted, increasing the
risk of an accident.
Which is probably putting it mildly.
NHTSA says that drivers of cars with this problem may hear unusual noises
while the vehicle is in motion. They may also notice that the steering wheel
sits at a tilted position, and the ESP warning light may come on.
The recall affects the following models: ...
2014 Smart fortwo coupe electric
2014 Smart fortwo convertible electric
Compared to many recalls that we see, this one affects a fairly small number
of vehicles -- just 5,058 cars registered in the U.S. Whether that's because
of limited production dates or Smart's notoriously low American sales stats
is unknown. (Remember when Oprah tried to give away the fortwo? That was
fun.)
Mercedes-Benz USA hasn't yet told NHTSA when it plans to mail recall notices
to consumers. When it does, however, owners will be able to take their
vehicles to a dealership, where the steering gear mounting bolts will be
replaced.
If you own one of the affected vehicles and have questions, you're
encouraged to contact Smart customer service at 800-762-7887, or call NHTSA
at 888-327-4236 and ask about safety campaign #15V192000
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[EVDL] EVLN: Intrigued inner skinflint spent a week driving a Leaf EV
http://www.heraldnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20150426/LIVING/150429375/Test-driving-LEAF-offers-new-viewpoint-on-electric-cars-template=MobileArt What it's like to spend a week driving an electric car By Aaron Swaney April 26, 2015 Sitting in a dimly lit parking lot late at night, I'm waiting for my car to charge and subduing my two young children by reading them a book, when my 7-year-old son interrupts from the back seat. “The guy who owns this car must be the most patient guy in the world,” he says. So true. Fully electric cars have been in the public consciousness for a while now. Movies have been made, books written and conspiracy theories put forth about them. Everyone seems to have an opinion about electric cars, especially since Nissan put the LEAF out four years ago and Chevy and Elon Musk followed with the economical Volt and luxury Tesla, respectively. I've never really thought about driving one, until I heard an ad for the LEAF on the radio. The basic pitch was this: save enough money on gas, maintenance and government incentives to pay for the lease and then some. My inner skinflint was intrigued. A week later, Nissan allowed me to use a LEAF — an acronym for Leading, Environmentally-friendly, Affordable, Family car — for a week and write about my experience. Here, along with some insights from two local LEAF owners, are my thoughts: See cars differently Driving the LEAF for a week, I had a flashback to high school when kids played with tamagotchi, which are basically electronic pets. The feeling of keeping the car alive was the same. I was constantly worried about how many miles were left, what the car's range was, where I was going to get my next charge, could I make it home? This is called range anxiety and I was told by the LEAF owners I talked to that it goes away after a few weeks. But during my test drive I was in full-blown panic mode. I constantly checked the charge gauge — the fuel gauge for electric cars — in the dash, worrying if it dipped below a certain point or ditching the freeway to take side roads and save energy. Driving an electric car forced me to think of a car as utilitarian. It became a tool to get me from point A to point B. The energy consumption was tangible. At the same time, I realized its limitations. You can't throw caution to the wind, jump in and take off for the coast. In terms of long-distance driving, “it's not made for that,” said Hank Palmer, who uses his LEAF to commute from his home in Kenmore to work in Marysville. The main reason for that is the fact freeway driving is a huge drain on the battery. I found that taking side roads or even being stuck in traffic took far less energy than driving 60-plus mph on the freeway. Lifestyle car Both Palmer and Ron Wheeler, a firefighter with the Seattle Fire Department, use their LEAFs for commuting and little else. They charge it at home, drive it to work, charge it at work and then drive home. It fits their lifestyle. The LEAF didn't fit mine. I drive 50 miles roundtrip to work each day, which would seem to fit a LEAF (the top charging range of a LEAF is 100 miles). The problem is I can't charge it at work and I frequently need to drive to interviews during work hours, which is a problem. LEAF owners need their driving to be predictable. Because freeway driving can be unpredictable and quick charging infrastructure is not built up, long commutes are a problem. Wheeler, who lives in Mount Vernon, said most of the time he can easily make it to work on one charge. But there have been a few times a strong head wind or a lot of water on the freeway has forced him to get off the freeway in Edmonds and drive to a fast charger for a quick boost. “The range issue for me is the only problem with the car,” Wheeler said. That brings us to charging. Both Palmer and Wheeler had 220-volt charging stations installed in their homes for approximately $200, which means they can bring their LEAFs to a full charge in just a few hours. I plugged mine into a conventional socket and it took 15 hours to charge the car up to 85 miles, not even a full charge. I also charged my car at a number of 220-volt charging stations, which were faster, averaging 60 miles of charge in a little over two hours. According to Wheeler, DC fast chargers, which promise a full charge in 15 minutes, are the way to go. There are four fast chargers in Snohomish County (Magic Nissan in Everett, Campbell Nelson in Edmonds, Sky Valley Chamber of Commerce in Sultan and the Sky Deli and Liquor in Skykomish) and another planned at the Seattle Premium Outlets in Marysville. Throw in the fact that electric car owners sometimes have to wait for others to finish charging and it's hard to beat the convenience of a gas-station fill-up. Very cost effective When I asked Wheeler if he'd put any money into maintenance of his LEAF, he paused and had to think. “I bought some Rain-X once,” Wheeler finally said. Besides environmental issues, one
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014-2015 Smart Fortwo EV Recall Replaces Bad Bolts
Paul Dove via EV wrote: U.S. Media thrives on confusion. Not only do they thrive; they *generate* it! Confusion is their most important product. I can't count the number of headlines I've seen that were written to deliberately obscure the actual story, in the interest of punching it up to attract more eyeballs. Man Killed Charging Electric Car Much later in the story, it mentions that he died when tree trimmers working overhead dropped a limb on his head. -- Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats. -- Howard Aiken -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014-2015 Smart Fortwo EV Recall Replaces Bad Bolts
Hahahahaha,
from glancing at the subject line I was wondering:
Wow! did GM already have to recall their Bolt and why are they substituting it
with a Smart?
Then I realized that I was a bit confused by the Bolt EV name and it were
simply the fasteners
in the Smart that needed replacement...
BTW, this confusion would not happen in other countries, because USA is the
only country I know
Where Every Single Word In The Title Is Written With A Capital.
All other countries would write instead:
Smart Fortwo EV recall replaces bad bolts.
So, this avoids confusion between the generic fastener (bolt) and the GM EV
name (Bolt)
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Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014-2015 Smart Fortwo EV Recall Replaces Bad Bolts
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1097898_2014-2015-smart-fortwo-coupe-convertible-and-electric-recalled-to-replace-poorly-built-bolts
2014-2015 Smart Fortwo Coupe, Convertible, And Electric Recalled To Replace
Poorly Built Bolts
By Richard Read Apr 21, 2015
[image
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2015-smart-fortwo-electric-drive_100499340_m.jpg
2015 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive
]
Mercedes-Benz USA is recalling 2014 and 2015 models of the Smart fortwo
microcar. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,
those vehicles might've been built with poorly made bolts, which could cause
serious problems for owners.
The bolts were made by Fontana Luigi S.p.A in Italy and were used to attach
the fortwo's steering gear. NHTSA says that the bolts don't meet endurance
requirements, leaving them open to fractures and worse:
Should a vehicle have been manufactured containing the affected bolts,
these bolts might break during the lifetime of the vehicle if exposed to
high loads in combination with vibrations. Should one of the two bolts on
the cross member break, vehicle handling would be impacted, increasing the
risk of an accident.
Which is probably putting it mildly.
NHTSA says that drivers of cars with this problem may hear unusual noises
while the vehicle is in motion. They may also notice that the steering wheel
sits at a tilted position, and the ESP warning light may come on.
The recall affects the following models: ...
2014 Smart fortwo coupe electric
2014 Smart fortwo convertible electric
Compared to many recalls that we see, this one affects a fairly small number
of vehicles -- just 5,058 cars registered in the U.S. Whether that's because
of limited production dates or Smart's notoriously low American sales stats
is unknown. (Remember when Oprah tried to give away the fortwo? That was
fun.)
Mercedes-Benz USA hasn't yet told NHTSA when it plans to mail recall notices
to consumers. When it does, however, owners will be able to take their
vehicles to a dealership, where the steering gear mounting bolts will be
replaced.
If you own one of the affected vehicles and have questions, you're
encouraged to contact Smart customer service at 800-762-7887, or call NHTSA
at 888-327-4236 and ask about safety campaign #15V192000
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Re: [EVDL] 'If you install EVSE, drivers will come to charge spend money'
so true. There's a bank downtown with free Level 2 charging. While I do not
go to that bank, I do park there and go to the mexican restaurant next door all
the time. :-)
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money'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gina-coplonnewfield/why-small-businesses-are_b_7152164.html
Why Small Businesses Are Installing Electric Vehicle Charging Stations
Gina Coplon-Newfield 04/27/2015
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Photo courtesy of Tom Moloughney
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If you build it, they will they charge.
Increasingly, small businesses are installing electric vehicle charging
stations as a way to attract new and loyal customers.
The Carlisle House Bed Breakfast in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, added an
electric vehicle (EV) charging station for its guests to use during their
stay. Owner Alan Duxbury said he's conscious of his environmental footprint
and wants to do what he can to reduce it. He hears from customers that the
charging station makes the BB more competitive with big chain hotels nearby
that aren't providing this special perk.
Redhook Brewery in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, recently installed an EV
charging station thanks to a $3,000 rebate from PSNH, the largest utility in
the granite state. Leaders in Door County, Wisconsin, installed two electric
vehicle charging stations in their visitor center lot and have recruited
three businesses -- the Bay Breeze Resort, the High Point Inn, and the
Village of Egg Harbor -- to add charging stations to theirs too. There are
times when we, as tourism catalysts, are called upon to be leaders and
visionaries and develop new and exciting opportunities in tourism
development, said Jack Moneypenney, the president and CEO of the Door
County Visitor Bureau.
Big companies, such as Walgreens, Walmart, Kohl's, and Simon Malls, have
begun installing EV charging stations and see the business case. Rocky
Mountain Institute compiled a guide for the costs of EV charger installation
for individuals and businesses and found that the total cost per charger for
a dual curb-side station is between $5,000 and $6,000. Is it financially
worth it for small businesses?
The Center for Climate and Energy Solutions recently did an analysis of EV
charging infrastructure financing and identified promising ways to get the
private sector to fund more of that infrastructure. Said study author Nick
Nigro, Just selling electricity as a transportation service won't bring in
enough revenue to pay for owning and operating the charging equipment. He
argues that this is why charging business models must capture some of the
indirect revenue that flows to other businesses, like automakers, retailers,
and electric utilities.
Nigo said that business owners need to take into account how much additional
business these charging stations can bring in by attracting new and loyal
customers eager to patronize businesses that are supporting the transition
to electric mobility. According the EV charging infrastructure company
ChargePoint, the installation of an EV charging stations increases customer
dwell-time significantly -- by an average of 50 minutes per customer,
according to one business customer. This means more time for customers to
spend money.
At Nauna's Bella Casa restaurant in Montclair, New Jersey, owner Tom
Moloughney has two ChargePoint stations available for his diners and one
ClipperCreek charging station out back for his own EV to charge. Moloughney
said he initially installed the stations as a public service to help foster
the adoption of electric vehicles but soon realized there are benefits for
his bottom line too.
Many of the people that come to plug in and eat tell me they only came to
Nauna's because of the chargers in the parking lot, and that they didn't
know of the restaurant before finding it on their EV charging app, said
Moloughney, who has been driving electric since 2009. I'm averaging about
five or six electric vehicles per week now, and the number is definitely on
the rise.
Drivers can find EV charging stations and potentially new places to visit
and do business by using apps such as PlugShare.
If you're a business owner thinking about installing EV charging stations,
reporter Brad Berman has helpfully devised a step-by-step tutorial. If you
have experience in this arena, share your story. Maybe you'll acquire some
new customers or find some new places to shop and fuel up.
Kathleen McBride and Christina Rohrbacher, Sierra Club interns, contributed
to this post.
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[EVDL] Quick charge San Francisco to LA...not possible with all cars. tesla, chademo, ccs/sae
Tesla yes, Chademo, yes CCS You might get to Fresno. This is using Plugshare. Anybody have a more comprehensive map. Lawrence Rhodes. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150430/82f1dc02/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +
More herehttp://smdp.com/police-pepper-spray-santa-monica-man-park-dispute/147521 http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/news/News-2015/April-2015/04_29_2015_Attorney_Claims_Super-Aggressive_Santa_Monica_Officers_Roughed_Up_Client.html In the article, the police claim the charging stations close at 8 pm.(seems a little unreasonable) From: Lawrence Winiarski lawrence_winiar...@yahoo.com To: Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com; Peri Hartman pe...@kotatko.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed + More here.. http://santamonicapd.org/Content.aspx?id=52058 From: Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Peri Hartman pe...@kotatko.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed + On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Either something huge is missing from the story or we're seeing incredibly poor judgment by police officers. Alas, I fear the only thing missing is a realization that this sort of shit goes on all the time, and it's only quite rare that there's somebody with a camera there to film it. The only poor judgement the officers are going to consider themselves guilty of is not noticing the bystander with the camera. Driving While Black is outrageous enough...apparently Charging While Black needs to be added to the list. I have some small hope that the increasing ubiquity of smartphones will help keep the cops better in line...but cops are also well known for intimidating bystanders into destroying evidence that incriminates corrupt cops, if necessary by arresting the bystanders for failing to comply with a police order and then accidentally destroying the evidence themselves. There're lots of good cops on the beat, to be sure...but the system as an whole stinks to high heaven. Regardless...a sad lesson for EV drivers with a built-in suntan. You're at as much danger from the cops when you're charging as you are when you're driving; plan your charging accordingly, be aware, and protect yourself. Maybe even invest in a dsahcam of your own, and a particularly inconspicuous one at that b -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150426/003de898/attachment.pgp ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150430/5009c136/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Electric Solar Boat
Mike Nickerson and all, My apologies for not answering your last question more accurately about total wattage off the roof and per square foot. At 65 x 39 inches (17.6sf) the 11 modules yield 2,585 watts (13.3 w/ft2). Their replacement with cells of similar output and utilizing the full roof area (not limited to large rectangles) would yield nearly 30 square feet and 3990 watts. That would probably increase the speed to well over 4 mph and keep the battery bank full all (sunny) day. There are very special batteries I will be using as soon as one of the companies with whom I am working, get them into production. They are not Li types, they are in fact extremely close in specification to current Li units but are foamed lead acid. Many of the inter/intra-cellular balancing schemes and temperature problems are avoided with weight and power density the same. Some of that is covered and linked from http://www.mogcanalboat.com/ The major difficulty with a boat, that does not arise with cars and airplanes, is the need for sleeping, cooking, watermarking, power creation, hot water, anchors/chain, ground tackle, dingy, auxiliary power and a freezer, just to mention a few. For those reasons everything on the boat must have two uses (at least) or available living space gets filled in. Heat from PVs is used for assisting hot water and refrigeration in winter is used as an additional heating source….. on and on. This all results in creating a power grid (redundancy) instead of just ‘wiring’ and breakers. Keeping the 'down from roof voltage low' is also key to avoid frying someone's pacemaker (not sure that is a reality but is an example). However, the voltage must be a bit higher than the battery bank voltage to have best performance of the MPPT solar electric controllers. George ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
