Re: [EVDL] EV's and the grid, Light-weight 100W PV

2015-09-23 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
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[EVDL] Grid-tie Solar for EV charging

2015-09-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
>> a grid-tied solar system does not need a "dump battery" so that is a
>> wasted investment.  Just charge from the net-metered solar system as
is.

> Barring an unlikely major change in America's political system that
> vastly reduces the influence of money on laws,
> grid tie is going to be effectively gone in a few years.
> The utilities despise it, and will price it out of existence.

If ignorance prevails, yes.  The millions that the fossil fuel industry
(Koch bros) put into disinformation, lies and political hogwash against
solar and grid-tie really does fool a lot of people.  But there is no
question that net-metering grid-tie *IS* beneficial to the utilities (and
everyone else).

See this plot:  http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/PJM-data-2.png

It shows the demand here in the mid atlantic and the hourly cost of
electricity.  I then overlayed WHEN my solar array is producing and WHEN I
am drawing back out for night time charging.  And any fool can see that
the utility is getting my solar at a time when they are PAYING more than
12 cents per kWh average and that I am taking it back out when their
average cost is only 5 cents.

So they are making a 240% profit on MY solar system.  And that more than
pays for the 3 cents per kWh of distribution charges.

And the PROOF that solar is worth TEN TIMES or more to them is simply in
their "peak rewards" program that PAYS any customer to cut demand on these
peak summer days more than $1.50 per kWh to NOT use power.  I know a guy
that disconnects his house from the grid on those days and has made more
than $100 in a single day by NOT using electricity when it is costing the
utility 10 to 20 times the usual rate.

So don't believe the fossil fuel rhetoric.  Free electricity from the sun
benefits EVERYONE.  The fossil fuel industry hates it because it takes
away some of their price gouging.

Bob, WB4APR
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Perovskite solar cells may power electric

2015-09-23 Thread Cal Frye via EV
Ah, but then we get into beefier side panels, airbags, and other
crashworthy items the market now requires. Not that it can't be done
with modern lightweight materials and all, but these either raise the
mass or the cost...

Cal Frye

> Lawrence Rhodes via EV <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>
> September 22, 2015 at 8:28 PM
> You are still thinking 3000 pound conversions. Cut the weight and cut
> the battery weight. Get good aerodynamics. I bet Clouds Dolphin would
> do great with a 1kw of solar. Imagine it at 1500 pounds with a small
> pack. Just do the math. It's all about the numbers. The lighter the
> vehicle the more sense solar on the car makes. I've even seen VW buses
> done over and for a specific mission that works. It's about 8 miles a
> day. The guy never plugs in. Works for him. So if you have a 2000
> pound car instead of 55wh per mile it might be 150wh per mile Range.
> 20 kw pack 600 watt solar panels...do the math. Brings it down to 200
> mile range and 33 hours to charge. Lets divide 200 by 33. That is 6
> miles of range per hour of sitting in the sun. Starting to get
> interesting? For some people that is enough and you would never need
> to plug in...but you could if needed. Somehow Stella and Stella Lux
> get very good CD with their custom roofs full of cells. A CD of .16.
> Plenty good.
> So if the manufacturers would make something like the tear drop German
> cars of the 30's you might have something. 50 miles of gain per day is
> great and many people could live on that number for their commute.
> Stop thinking Nissan Leaf and more like the I3 squished down. Remember
> if you use bad CD like the Leaf and heavy weight solar makes no sense.
> You must have a light aero vehicle. Lawrence Rhodes...I lease a Leaf
> and it's great but it's so 20th Century...It's the same kind of
> vehicle as a Rav4 EV or the Honda EV Plus...Look at what aero did for
> the EV 1 and you can see every little bit helps until it's in the ball
> park and working.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlorwagen
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2767806/Meet-Stella-solar-powered-car-drives-500-miles-SINGLE-charge-warns-traffic-lights-change.html
> http://www.evalbum.com/3242 Dave Clouds Dolphin. It's gutted and only
> weighs 1200 pounds without batteries. 1980 pounds in battery weight.
> This is the vehicle to make solar. It might do better than my numbers.
> A lot better...but then someone would have to do it
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Re: [EVDL] Light-weight 100W PV roof panel for 48V e-carts> ?Is it worth it?

2015-09-23 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
I don't think you can look at it that way, since the asset (the solar array) is 
depreciating.  You can't get that return for ten years, then get your money 
back to invest elsewhere.

It would be more appropriate to view this as a payback period.  The time for 
the savings to cover the cost of the original investment is 25-100 years.  
Seems awfully long.  Will it last that long?

Generally, you want a payback period that is within your expected usage life, 
and the item's physical life, if you are buying it for financial return.  5-10 
years payback period are pretty common goals.

Mike

On September 22, 2015 10:55:05 AM MDT, Robert Bruninga via EV 
 wrote:
>> Sounds like yearly payback is somewhere between $10.00 and $40.00.
>> Sounds kind of small for an investment of more than $1000.
>
>That's 1% to 4%.  Better than most banks.  And FAR better for the
>future
>since it displaces X amount of coal burning.
>
>So if it is equal or better than most other investments, AND it is
>definitely better than using coal electricity for ALL of us, then many
>would jump at the chance.
>
>Bob
>
>On September 22, 2015 7:19:43 AM MDT, EVDL Administrator via EV
> wrote:
>>On 22 Sep 2015 at 3:50, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
>>
>>> ? Is this a useful product worthy of the co$t, or is it a profitable
>>> feel-good add-on for bragging-rights ?
>>
>>Much of the answer is right in the story:
>>
>>> As a yearly average, the system generates 29 percent of the total
>>energy
>>> required to drive eight miles per day in West Palm Beach, Fla. That
>>reduces
>>> the energy needed to recharge the battery by 29 percent. Results may
>>vary
>>> depending on area and usage.
>>>
>>> By continually transferring energy to the batteries, the panels
>limit
>>how deep
>>> into the battery reserve a vehicle must go during a typical use.
>>
>>I suspect this is a best-case estimate.  Let's run some numbers.
>>
>>First let me warn you that there's a fair bit of hand-waving here. 
>I'm
>>not an expert in these matters.  If you're a PV expert and can come up
>>with
>>
>>better numbers than mine, by all means please do so.
>>
>>IIRC a typical golf car range is around 40-50 miles.  Using standard
>>T105
>>type batteries this amounts to an energy usage of between 126 and 158
>>Wh/mi.
>>Let's call it 150 Wh/mi for convenience.
>>
>>Driving 8 miles per day will require 1200 WH per day or (1200 * 365)
>==
>>
>>438000 Wh/year if you drive the car every day (as the PR release seems
>>to suggest).
>>
>>This panel can produce 100 watts, but if that's a typical rating it'll
>>only apply when the golf car is parked in the sun with the sun
>directly
>>overhead.
>>At other times the output will be lower, but I'm not a solar expert so
>>I don't know by how much.  I'll take a wild guess and estimate that
>the
>>panel will average 30 watts over an average day's sunshine (including
>>dawn and dusk).  Someone please correct me if that's too far off.
>>
>>So that's 30W * 12h == 360 Wh/day * 234 days (average sunny days per
>>year in West Palm Beach) == 84240 Wh/year.  This is 19% of the energy
>>required to drive 8 miles per day, about a third less than Club Car
>>claim, but surprisingly close.
>>
>>But even my 19% estimate assumes the golf car will be in the sun any
>>time the sun is shining.  If you park it in a garage, or in the shade
>>of a building or tree, it gains little or nothing.  How many people
>>deliberately park their cars (golf or otherwise) in the sun on a hot
>>summer day in Florida?
>>
>>Other factors will affect solar gain.  For example, if you drive it on
>>a tree lined street, or a city street with tall buildings around it,
>it
>>will gain less solar energy.
>>
>>So, is this just a "feel-good add-on"?  Well ... as with any other
>>vehicle option, how much a given user gains from this one depends on
>>where and how she drives.  But for most users, I'd say it'll probably
>>yield more bragging rights than range.
>>
>>What it MIGHT do that's potentially at least as useful -- IF you park
>>mostly in the sun --- is dribble a little charge back into the battery
>>when the car isn't being driven.  That'll improve battery cycle life a
>>bit.
>>Calculating
>>whether the resulting battery cost savings will offset the cost of the
>>PV panel will be left as an exercise for the reader. ;-)
>>
>>FWIW, in looking for info on this I ran across several dealers
>offering
>>
>>aftermarket PV panel options for golf cars.  One claimed a (peak)
>>output of
>>220 watts.  The price was $1450.
>>
>>Is it worth it?  I see 12v 50w generic PV panels on Ebay for around
>>$100
>>each.  Five of them would give you peak 250W into a charge controller.
>>
>>Speaking of which, I see 48v, 30-45 amp charge controllers on Ebay at
>>prices from $160 to $260.
>>
>>The dealer I mentioned above also provide a roof frame and struts.
>>What do
>>you think that's worth, maybe $150?   So they're making around $700 on
>>each
>>kit.  That's a 100% return on the 

Re: [EVDL] Grid-tie Solar for EV charging

2015-09-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 23, 2015, at 5:51 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV  wrote:

> And any fool can see that
> the utility is getting my solar at a time when they are PAYING more than
> 12 cents per kWh average and that I am taking it back out when their
> average cost is only 5 cents.

Yes -- the alignment between peak solar production and peak demand isn't 
perfect, but it's not that far off. As a result, there's massive profits to be 
had in arbitrage -- for the utilities to buy surplus solar and sell it to 
neighbors rather than fire up their most expensive peaking plants, and to repay 
solar producers with surplus dirt cheap overnight baseload electricity that 
would otherwise just go to waste.

But massive profits from arbitrage aren't enough, so they're killing the goose 
that lays the golden eggs. And signing their own death warrants by doing so.

b&
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Re: [EVDL] Mecury Messanger

2015-09-23 Thread Alan Brinkman via EV
Wayne,

It is hard to find information on a concept car so I was perplexed for a while, 
but if I had been paying attention to your earlier post I would have known. In 
2003 the Mercury Messenger was a concept car by Mercury (Ford) using some 
shared Jaguar parts. I did a little reading and think that possibly the Ford 
DEW platform (DEW98) used in midsized rear-wheel drive cars developed by both 
Ford and Jaguar engineers may be some of what you are working with. The 
platform was used in 2000-2008 Jaguar S-Type, 2000-2006 Lincoln LS, 2002-2005 
Ford Thunderbird and 2008 and forward Jaguar XF.

In some Ford applications you may be able to find a rear carrier in the ratio 
3.58 but please double check, I am no expert, just a wild guess. Between 2002 
and 2003 there seems to be a change in the rear end compatibility of parts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-FORD-THUNDERBIRD-REAR-AXLE-ASSY-1W63-4K139-AA-M205-PM580A-3-58-NEW-BUT-/111769691880?hash=item1a05fe26e8=mtr

Ebay item number 111769691880  Complete assembly for a 2002.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Lincoln-LS-REAR-AXLE-DIFFERENTIAL-3-58-RATIO-/321647525933?fits=Year%3A2002%7CMake%3AFord%7CModel%3AThunderbird=item4ae3afc02d=mtr

 Ebay item number 321647525933  Looks to be a steel housing with a broken back 
cover.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181826281443?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D181826281443%26_rdc%3D1

Ebay item number 181826281443  This one is aluminum.

I like the looks of the concept car you are working on. You have posted 
pictures on your site. I like the rims as well.
http://www.ev-blue.com/Mercury_Messenger_Concept_Car/001.html

Have fun!

Alan


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I have this Mercury Messenger just about done, did a test drive and found out 
the rear end ratio is way to low. 2.53to 1 , This car has no trans, no place to 
put one. Its direct drive 


I find out that the rear end Diff and carrier with axles are all Jaguar X-type, 
The bad thing is that Jag only made the X-type with one gear ratio, 2.53 to 1 . 
I did a tooth count . 
Finally I found a BMW SUV that the front diff is about the same size, (smaller) 
but the axles are bolt to gear, the Jag is slip in spline to gear. Now I have 
to make mounts, modify the BMW axles to adapt to the Jag axles . The Fun never 
ends . The test drive was like being in a buck board LOL , No springs in this 
car, it was for show only, so the owner will put air bags in it when it gets 
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Re: [EVDL] Mercury Messenger

2015-09-23 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
My Fiero project uses a BMW Z3 differential. IT is a 4.44:1 ratio. It is
very small. Might work?

Sincerely,
Mark Grasser -
 
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I have this Mercury Messenger just about done, did a test drive and found
out the rear end ratio is way to low. 2.53to 1 , This car has no trans, no
place to put one. Its direct drive 


I find out that the rear end Diff and carrier with axles are all Jaguar
X-type, The bad thing is that Jag only made the X-type with one gear ratio,
2.53 to 1 . I did a tooth count . 
Finally I found a BMW SUV that the front diff is about the same size,
(smaller) but the axles are bolt to gear, the Jag is slip in spline to gear.
Now I have to make mounts, modify the BMW axles to adapt to the Jag axles .
The Fun never ends . The test drive was like being in a buck board LOL , No
springs in this car, it was for show only, so the owner will put air bags in
it when it gets back to Chicago
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Re: [EVDL] Railroad solar? (was: Light-weight 100W PV roof panel for 48V e-carts...)

2015-09-23 Thread Tom Mandera via EV
And they are already electric vehicles - just supplied by diesel generators.

On Sep 22, 2015 4:33 PM, Bill Dube via EV  wrote:
>
> Interesting point. Also, the cars "draft" one another so the air
> resistance is quite low as well.
> It takes only ~0.6 HP to move per ton to propel a train 50 mph. About 5%
> of the energy that it takes to move a truck or a car at the same speed.
> http://www.brooklynrail.net/science_of_railway_locomotion.html
>
> Bill
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Re: [EVDL] Light-weight 100W PV roof panel for 48V e-carts> ?Is it worth it?

2015-09-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Lee Hart  wrote:

> Ben Goren via EV wrote:
> 
>> Not just current state of the art...it's never going to be practical
>> for the four-door five-passenger freeway sedan that dominates the
>> roadways; there just isn't enough insolation.
> 
> I agree for normal cars. But I have to wonder... what about railroad cars?

Now that's a _very_ interesting thought!

One would have to run the numbers, of course, which shouldn't be too difficult: 
box car surface area, assume panels laid flat on top and average US insolation. 
Locomotive fuel consumption per mile should be easy to find.

If the math works, it should be straightforward to retrofit...the locomotives 
are already electric vehicles with diesel generators providing the electricity. 
Add a battery car, charge the batteries from the panels, run the electric motor 
from the batteries, and keep the diesel generator to top off the batteries if 
they ever run low. I'd think the biggest technical challenge would be routing 
that much power from car to car...every car would have to be able to carry the 
full current of the maximum output from the panels, over a connection that can 
be made and disconnected at random times, quickly and safely -- and with 
automatic shutdown / disconnect in case of derailment or other emergency. I bet 
that wouldn't be easy to design nor cheap to implement.

...but, alas, a significant fraction of rail transport is moving fossil fuels 
around the country, and something tells me that the rail owners would get upset 
at the "optics" of a solar-powered train hauling coal or tar sands crude. If 
solar is what's best for the trains moving the dirty stuff, why bother with the 
dirty stuff in the first place, and why not just go solar everywhere?

Don't hold your breath, in other words.

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[EVDL] EVLN: eweb.org offering biz low-interest 4% EVSE loans Eugene-OR

2015-09-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/33513129-75/eweb-offers-loans-to-businesses-seeking-to-install-electric-vehicle-chargers.html.csp
EWEB offers loans to businesses seeking to install electric vehicle chargers
By Ilene Aleshire  Sept. 16, 2015

The Eugene Water & Electric Board has started a low-interest loan program to
encourage businesses, operators of fleets of vehicles, and owners of
multifamily housing units to install chargers for electric vehicles.

The loans, which have an interest rate of 4 percent, can be used to buy and
install Level 1, Level 2 or DC fast chargers at a business for employee and
public use or at apartment buildings and other multifamily housing sites
that have shared parking for tenants.

To qualify, applicants must be EWEB commercial customers, the chargers must
be within the EWEB’s service area, and the chargers must be hardwired to a
wall or pedestal mounted and listed by Underwriters Laboratories.

EWEB said the goal is to reduce carbon emission. Utility officials said
about one third of the nation’s greenhouse gases come from the
transportation sector, with the majority of that — 60 percent — due to
personal vehicle use.

Electric vehicles also are significantly less expensive to operate than
cars, truck and vans powered by fossil fuels, EWEB officials said, citing
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency estimates that the Nissan LEAF can go
about 99 miles on the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline.

Along with the EWEB loan program, there are also federal and state tax
credits for the purchase of EVs and charging stations.

EWEB staff will available on Friday from 3 p.m. to 4 p.m. at the Lane
Regional Air Protection Agency, 1010 Main St. in Springfield to provide
information to anyone interested owning and driving an electric vehicle.

For more information on EWEB’s commercial loan program or electric vehicles
go to eweb.org/ev.
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[EVDL] EVLN: Her 241.9mph e-Trike KillaJoule driver-goals> 300mph & a PhD

2015-09-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV


'It’s an absolute hoot to drive, It takes off like a bat out of hell'

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/motoring-news/worlds-fastest-female-motorcyclist-eva-hkansson-im-on-a-quest-for-300mph-10509214.html
World's fastest female motorcyclist Eva Håkansson: 'I'm on a quest for
300mph'
Karen Attwood  20 September 2015

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http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10509340.ece/alternates/w620/26-killajoule.jpg
'It’s not the speed that gives me the thrill - it's the joy of doing
something that no one has ever done before'

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10509339.ece/alternates/w460/26-eva-hakansson.jpg
Eva Håkansson is currently studying for a PhD at University of Denver Eva
Håkansson is currently studying for a PhD at University of Denver

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10509341.ece/alternates/w460/26-fast-car.jpg
The Killa Joule has a 375-volt, 10kWh battery pack has 56 cells; these are
charged by a bio-diesel generator
]

Eva Håkansson is the world’s fastest female motorcycle rider, but the
34-year-old Swede isn’t resting on her laurels. “My goal is always to be
faster,” she tells The Independent. “I’m on the quest for 300mph, but many
things can go wrong.”

Håkansson earned her current title on Utah’s Bonneville Salt Flats in
September last year, when KillaJoule – an electric cycle she designed and
built herself – reached 241.9mph in the official race on the densely packed
salt pan.

The US-based mechanical engineer was hoping to hit 300mph in KillaJoule this
weekend, but flooding on the flats forced the cancellation of racing. Her
next opportunity to write herself into the record books will take place
between 12 and 16 October at an event called the Bonneville Shootout.

The KillaJoule, a bright red, cigar-shaped projectile, has had a number of
modifications since last year’s run. “It’s always a work in progress so
there are some upgrades in horsepower and there is less drag,” explains the
University of Denver PhD student. “All that makes the computer say that it
will go 300mph.”

Håkansson appears to inhabit a glamorous world, an image confirmed by her
appearance in the latest ad campaign for Johnnie Walker, alongside racing
driver Jenson Button and actor Jude Law. But she insists “it’s not the speed
that gives me the thrill”; rather it’s “the joy of doing something that no
one has ever done before”.

The real pleasure comes from the 360 days she spends building high-speed
vehicles in her garage; the five days of racing are “mostly quite stressful
as that is when you prove your work”.

Håkansson has two main reasons for breaking speed records in an electric
vehicle. First, to show that women make as good engineers as men and,
secondly, to change the perceptions of eco-friendly vehicles. She describes
her record attempts as “eco-activism in disguise”.

“The general perception of anything that is eco-friendly and low emission is
that it is really boring and you wouldn’t want an electric car,” she says.
“My mission is to change that perception by showing that electric vehicles
can be insanely fast.”

Electric cars would fulfil the needs of “about 95 per cent” of the
population, she adds. “I don’t think we will see electric long-haul trucks
or electric commercial airplanes in a long time, but for daily driving
electric cars are outstanding”.

Håkansson and her husband, fellow engineer Bill Dube, get around in an
electric car powered by solar panels on the roof. “It costs us practically
nothing to drive and it’s running on sunshine.” 

She is due to finish her PhD in about six months, at which point she hopes
to convert her “high-end hobby” into a full-time career.

In the US, and also in the UK, where only 6 per cent of women are engineers,
“many people seem to think that some unknown, unfathomable force makes us
unable to be engineers. I want to change that perception, because women make
excellent engineers and little girls and older girls and women need to see
that the tech sector is an excellent career choice.”

She believes women may be put off Stem (science, technology, engineering and
maths) careers “because they think they can’t do it because they have been
told all their lives that engineering is just for boys, and people accept
that as some kind of undeniable fact”.

Engineering runs in her family. Her father, Sven, was a Swedish road racing
champion in the Sixties, who built and tuned his own machines. He also took
a keen interest in electric-powered vehicles, developing Sweden’s first
electric street-legal motorcycle, the ElectroCat, with Eva.

Håkansson’s mother was also an engineer – “the only female in her class” –
as are her brothers. “Looking back at my childhood I realised I never really
played with things. I was just always building things. I thought that was
completely normal. I learned how to use a sewing machine when I was four. It
wasn’t until I reached my twenties and thirties that I realised how unusual
that was, and what a great 

[EVDL] EVLN: GM 200mi EV & Electrified Opel-Vauxhall Will Be Sold In Europe

2015-09-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://gas2.org/2015/09/16/chevy-bolt-another-ev-from-gm-will-go-to-europe/
Chevy Bolt & Another EV From GM Will Go To Europe
September 16th, 2015  by Zachary Shahan

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2015 Chevrolet Bolt EV Concept all electric vehicle – Exterior

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2015 Chevrolet Bolt EV Concept all electric vehicle – front ex 2015
Chevrolet Bolt EV Concept all electric vehicle – rear ext
]

News from the Frankfurt Motor Show from GM is that the highly anticipated,
long-range and affordable Chevy Bolt will also be sold in Europe under the
Opel brand. Surprisingly, though, the report is that there will be no
right-hand drive model sold in the UK.

Considering that the UK has become one of the largest electric car markets
in Europe (seeing a huge jump in 2015), it is quite surprising and
disappointing to hear that the Bolt won’t live there. On the other hand, if
GM is only planning on producing 30,000 Bolts a year, given the concept
car’s impressive specs, it’s hard to imagine a lot of supply being left over
for Europe.

On the bottom of the Autocar article that mentioned to “no Bolt for U…K”
news, the writer included some interesting tidbits about the concept Bolt,
some of which I don’t recall seeing (h/t to bro1999 [
http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?196714-Bolt-EV-will-be-sold-in-Europe...but-NO-right-hand-drive
] on the GM-Volt forum):

The concept version of the Bolt EV has operating modes configured for
different driving styles, such as daily commuting or weekend cruising. The
modes adjust accelerator pedal mapping, vehicle ride height and suspension
tuning. The Bolt EV concept is also designed to support DC fast charging –
although there’s no word on how long charging takes.

The concept features a 10.0in touchscreen on the dashboard. It can be paired
with a smartphone with the concept Bolt EV Connect app, which is designed to
allow a smartphone to perform as the key fob, allow drivers to offer and
accept ride sharing and park the car autonomously.

Perhaps more interesting than any of the above, though, is a statement [
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-frankfurt-motor-show/vauxhall-ramps-product-offensive-new-suv-and-electric
] from GM CEO Mary Barra that another electric vehicle will be launched in
Europe as well (not based on the Bolt platform). Hmm… more info? Nope, not
really — we don’t even know if she means fully electric or plug-in hybrid
electric. Still, though, that’s good news… if not all that surprising given
European regulations. Look at how many plug-ins BMW, Volkswagen, Audi (which
is admittedly part of Volkswagen) and other European automakers are
unveiling.
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http://cleantechnica.com/2015/09/17/chevy-bolt-another-ev-will-sell-in-europe/
Chevy Bolt & Another New GM EV Will Sell In Europe
September 17th, 2015  by Zachary Shahan



http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/09/opel-vauxhall-to-introduce-second-ev-alongside-chevrolet-bolt/
Opel-Vauxhall To Introduce Second EV Alongside Chevrolet Bolt
by Sean Szymkowski — Sep 17, 2015
The final bits of information are trickling from the 2015 Frankfurt Motor
Show, with the latest news being the confirmation of an unnamed electric
vehicle for Opel-Vauxhall by 2020, according to AutoCar.

The news comes from an interview with General Motors CEO, Mary Barra, but
she wouldn’t delve into many specifics on the EV, merely saying it will be
in addition to the 2017 Chevrolet Bolt. It had already been confirmed the
2016 Chevrolet Volt would not translate into a new Opel Ampera.

The Chevrolet Bolt is expected to be built alongside an Opel sibling at the
Orion assembly plant in 2017.

If we had to take a stab at what the unnamed EV could be, it may rest
somewhere in the all-new vehicle program also confirmed for the Orion
assembly plant, which GM has invest $245 million for. Rumors suggest the
program is for an all-new compact Cadillac crossover, and it’s quite
possible the crossover features plug-in technology.

Depending on the platform and technology, the basis of a new plug-in
Cadillac crossover could translate well into the European market that is
crossover crazy right now.
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-detroit-motor-show/chevrolet-bolt-electric-vehicle-wont-be-sold-uk
GM 200mi EV won't be sold in the UK
15 September 2015
...
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1100085_u-k-to-miss-out-on-200-mile-chevy-bolt-ev-gms-electric-car-for-everyone
U.K. To Miss Out On 200-Mile Chevy Bolt EV, GM's 'Electric Car For
Everyone'?
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV Range> The More You Have, The More You Use

2015-09-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1100054_electric-car-range-the-more-you-have-the-more-you-use-canadian-data-shows
Electric-Car Range: The More You Have, The More You Use, Canadian Data Shows
By Matthew Klippenstein  Sep 16, 2015

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Daily use of electric cars against starting range (from fFleetwise EV300,
Toronto Atmospheric Fund)

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Daily driving distance by electric-car model (from fFleetwise EV300, Toronto
Atmospheric Fund)

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(L2 port)  2016 Nissan Leaf
]

With the recent announcement by the City of Los Angeles that it would lease
288 plug-in electric vehicles, now is a good time to look at a new study
from Canada on how electric cars can be integrated into large fleets.

It's important because it explicitly quantifies the range anxiety that
lower-range electric cars induce in drivers used to conventional cars with
combustion engines.

The Toronto Atmospheric Fund's Fleetwise EV300 Program was an early
electric-vehicle study; planning for it began back in 2010, and the bulk of
testing was conducted in 2011 and 2012.

It matched 16 fleets in the Toronto area with five vehicle manufacturers and
an assortment of utility and technology partners.

First, it established a baseline from a three-week monitoring period of the
fleets' vehicles. That also established that the fleet vehicles spent fully
one-fifth of their time idling.

The baseline data was used to help fleet managers determine which of their
vehicles to replace with plug-in electrics, and which of five options
(Chevrolet Volt, Ford Transit Connect Electric, Mitsubishi i-MiEV, Nissan
Leaf, or Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid) might best fit their needs.

In all, 52 plug-in electric vehicles were integrated into the fleets and
monitored over a six-month period. Technology partner FleetCarma issued a
preliminary report in 2013, and the Fund issued its Findings Report this
spring.

The centerpiece of the study, from the electric vehicle advocate's
perspective, was the surprisingly quantifiable range anxiety seen with
battery-electric vehicles.

Whether they started the day with 60 or 120 kilometers of range (roughly 38
to 75 miles), novice plug-in drivers consistently left themselves a 50-km
(30-mile) buffer of unused battery capacity.

It will be fascinating to learn whether early municipal adopters like Los
Angeles or Indianapolis see differences.

The EV300 report also broke down average daily driving distances by vehicle,
shown in the table below.

As both drivers and advocates await the arrival of affordable longer-range
electric cars over the next three years--including the Chevrolet Bolt EV,
the second-generation Nissan Leaf, and the promised Tesla Model 3--the study
data prompts some crucial questions.

Could the slow mainstreaming of electric vehicles since 2012, along with
more extensive training, make drivers more comfortable using a greater
proportion of an electric car's range?

Or would their fear of being in stuck traffic on a sweltering summer's day
make them plan their routes as cautiously as Canadian fleet drivers worried
about traffic jams during a blizzard?

This isn't just an academic question, because fleet operators can only
justify purchasing electric vehicles if the operational savings over the
car's lifetime are larger than its up-front cost premium.

And those operational savings will be slower to come by if range anxiety
causes drivers to limit their use of electric cars to short trips.

Reducing range anxiety, conversely, could unlock the economics of electric
vehicles for many more fleets.

In the longer term, of course, increased battery electric vehicle range will
solve many of these issues.

But in the short term, easing the range anxieties of virgin electric-car
drivers could transform fleet adoption, even in an era of cheap gasoline.

Tracking the experiences of Los Angeles fleets in the coming months, and
comparing them to Toronto's earlier trial, could help us do exactly that.
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FleetWise EV300 is providing the decision support tools for public and
private fleets in the Greater ... FleetWise is a project of the Toronto
Atmospheric Fund.
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http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1078045_how-many-miles-are-enough-to-kill-electric-car-range-anxiety
How Many Miles Are Enough To Kill Electric-Car Range Anxiety? (Jul 2012)
...
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1083361_conquering-electric-car-range-anxiety-a-complete-guide
Conquering Electric-Car Range Anxiety: A Complete Guide (Apr 2013)




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Re: [EVDL] Railroad solar? (was: Light-weight 100W PV roof panel for 48V e-carts...)

2015-09-23 Thread David Wilker via EV
I saw a video once about them. They use they generators to slow the train
down coming down mountains. They then use the electricity to heat
conductors, thus wasting it.



If we cannot afford to take care of Veterans, then we should stop making
them.
David C. Wilker Jr.
USAF (RET)

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Tom Mandera via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:

> And they are already electric vehicles - just supplied by diesel
> generators.
>
> On Sep 22, 2015 4:33 PM, Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting point. Also, the cars "draft" one another so the air
> > resistance is quite low as well.
> > It takes only ~0.6 HP to move per ton to propel a train 50 mph. About 5%
> > of the energy that it takes to move a truck or a car at the same speed.
> > http://www.brooklynrail.net/science_of_railway_locomotion.html
> >
> > Bill
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