Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM sez their EVs will be profitable by 2021

2018-02-04 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
I guess that's a good development. Makes one go hmmm when you think about past 
claims about the GM EV1 (and also EVs in general) being impossible to make 
profitably. Sunk costs and ongoing R costs can be manageable when you look at 
them with the right scale. 


On February 4, 2018 9:19:19 PM CST, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
>
>http://www.autocar.co.nz/autocar-news-app/gm-reckons-it-will-make-profits-on-electric-vehicles-by-2021
>GM reckons it will make profits on electric vehicles by 2021
>10 Jan 2018  Robert Barry
>
>[image  / GM 
>http://www.autocar.co.nz/_Commercial/_News/2018-Dump-January/2017-MAVEN-LA-018.jpg
>]
>
>General Motors (GM) has announced it will be launching at least 20
>all-new
>electric vehicles (EV) by 2023 and it is working with Chinese partner
>SAIC
>to develop new and more cost efficient EV production facilities in
>China to
>produce them.
>
>According to Reuters, GM chief executive officer Mary Barra has made a
>promise to investors that the company will make a profit on selling EV
>by
>2021.
>
>In November 2017 at a Wall Street function hosted by Barclays, Barra
>told
>analysts that GM is developing an all-new platform for battery electric
>vehicles that is different to the one currently used in the Bolt EV
>which
>will lower production costs and make the vehicles more profitable.
>
>“One of the things we'll be doing is structurally integrating the
>batteries
>into the architecture. This will allow us to take out cost and gives us
>better flexibility from a design perspective,” says Barra.
>
>“We will have modular [battery] cell chemistry solutions that will
>allow us
>to enter multiple segments off of this platform and really support all
>of
>the customer demands,” she says.
>
>“We'll also have the ability, which we have today, to manufacture
>battery
>packs at scale, both in China and the United States. So the result is a
>very
>modular battery platform that's going to give us tremendous flexibility
>to
>meet customer demands and to lower cost,” says Barra.
>
>According to Reuters, Barra also says that GM expects its battery cell
>cost
>to fall from U.S $145 per kilowatt-hour (kWh) in the Chevy Bolt, to
>less
>than U.S $100 per kWh with the new platform.
>
>While Barra didn't give specifics at the Barclays function, she also
>told
>the assembled analysts that GM is improving the design of its battery
>packs,
>making them lower in height which makes them easier to mount into the
>floor
>of a vehicle and also modular, so that small and large battery packs
>can be
>assembled from common components.
>
>According to Reuters, the Chevrolet Bolt was the first mass-produced
>electric vehicle to go more than 200 miles (320km) between charges, and
>sell
>under U.S $40,000.
>
>GM sold 23,297 Bolts in 2017 while Tesla produced 1,770 of its U.S
>$35,000
>Model 3, well short of the company’s original targets.
>[© autocar.co.nz]
>
>
>+
>http://thenewswheel.com/cadillac-set-to-receive-a-disproportionate-share-of-gms-upcoming-electric-vehicles/
>Cadillac Set to Receive a “Disproportionate” Share of GM’s Upcoming
>Electric
>Vehicles
>January 31, 2018  Cadillac could soon be returning to its roots as the
>GM
>brand where new technology is introduced to the masses. A few months
>ago,
>The News Wheel reported that Buick would likely lead the …
>http://thenewswheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Cadillac-CT6-Plug-In-for-China-760x605.jpeg
>
>
>http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/tYA6haBUYX2exvtUJxq2eI/Nissan-braintovehicle-technology-What-if-cars-could-read.html
>Nissan brain-to-vehicle technology: What if cars could read your mind?
>Jan 27 2018  Now, Japanese car-maker Nissan has unveiled a new
>brain-to-vehicle (B2V) technology that will enable autonomous cars to
>learn
>from the human brain and ... which is still in the concept stage, will
>be a
>part of autonomous vehicles ... the autonomous system in the vehicle
>will
>able to take actions—such as turning the steering wheel or slowing the
>car
>...
>http://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period2/2018/01/27/Photos/Processed/nissan2-ksif--621x...@livemint.jpg
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20180203

2018-02-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Volvo-s-1st-hatchback-EV-arrives-in-2019-r-310mi-tp4689357.html
EVLN: Volvo's 1st hatchback EV arrives in 2019 r:310mi
Volvo EV: What the all-electric Model 3 rival will look like
Jan 29, 2018  Volvo’s first all-electric car will arrive in 2019 as an
entirely new model, but it turns out the automaker has already shown us just
what we can expect …
https://c.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/volvo-40-series-concepts-10-1280x683.jpg


http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-GM-sez-their-EVs-will-be-profitable-by-2021-tp4689358.html
EVLN: GM sez their EVs will be profitable by 2021
GM reckons it will make profits on electric vehicles by 2021
10 Jan 2018  According to Reuters, GM chief executive officer Mary Barra has
made a promise to investors that the company will make a profit on selling
EV by 2021. In November 2017 at a Wall Street function hosted by Barclays,
Barra told analysts that GM is developing an all-new platform for battery
electric vehicles that is different to ...
http://www.autocar.co.nz/_Commercial/_News/2018-Dump-January/2017-MAVEN-LA-018.jpg


+
http://www.newsworldindia.in/technology/vahana-pilotless-electric-vehicle-from-airbus-successfully-tested/287508/
Vahana - Pilotless, Electric Vehicle From Airbus Successfully Tested
February 3 , 2018  Airbus on Friday announced that they have successfully
held the first test flight of Vahana- an electric, pilotless flying vehicle
that will have the capacity to ship people around cities. The Wednesday
flight at a test range in the US territory of Oregon kept going for a
minute, with the airplane lifting up five meters (16 feet) starting ...
http://www.newsworldindia.in/public/media_uploads/media0na7vd.jpg


http://www.aviationtoday.com/2018/02/02/airbus-vahana-unmanned-electric-vehicle-takes-first-flight/
Airbus Vahana Unmanned Electric Vehicle Takes First Flight
Feb 2, 2018  The self-piloted, electric, vertical-takeoff-and-landing
aircraft out of Airbus Group's advanced projects outpost in Silicon Valley,
A3 (“A-cubed”), has completed its first full-scale flight test Wednesday.
According to a press release on the outpost's website, the aircraft reached
a height of 16 feet at the Pendleton UAS Range in ...
http://cdn.aviationtoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/vahana1_final-1.jpg


http://thenewswheel.com/cadillac-set-to-receive-a-disproportionate-share-of-gms-upcoming-electric-vehicles/
Cadillac Set to Receive a “Disproportionate” Share of GM’s Upcoming Electric
Vehicles
January 31, 2018  Cadillac could soon be returning to its roots as the GM
brand where new technology is introduced to the masses. A few months ago,
The News Wheel reported that Buick would likely lead the …
http://thenewswheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Cadillac-CT6-Plug-In-for-China-760x605.jpeg


http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/tYA6haBUYX2exvtUJxq2eI/Nissan-braintovehicle-technology-What-if-cars-could-read.html
Nissan brain-to-vehicle technology: What if cars could read your mind?
Jan 27 2018  Now, Japanese car-maker Nissan has unveiled a new
brain-to-vehicle (B2V) technology that will enable autonomous cars to learn
from the human brain and ... which is still in the concept stage, will be a
part of autonomous vehicles ... the autonomous system in the vehicle will
able to take actions—such as turning the steering wheel or slowing the car
...
http://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period2/2018/01/27/Photos/Processed/nissan2-ksif--621x...@livemint.jpg




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[EVDL] EVLN: GM sez their EVs will be profitable by 2021

2018-02-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.autocar.co.nz/autocar-news-app/gm-reckons-it-will-make-profits-on-electric-vehicles-by-2021
GM reckons it will make profits on electric vehicles by 2021
10 Jan 2018  Robert Barry

[image  / GM 
http://www.autocar.co.nz/_Commercial/_News/2018-Dump-January/2017-MAVEN-LA-018.jpg
]

General Motors (GM) has announced it will be launching at least 20 all-new
electric vehicles (EV) by 2023 and it is working with Chinese partner SAIC
to develop new and more cost efficient EV production facilities in China to
produce them.

According to Reuters, GM chief executive officer Mary Barra has made a
promise to investors that the company will make a profit on selling EV by
2021.

In November 2017 at a Wall Street function hosted by Barclays, Barra told
analysts that GM is developing an all-new platform for battery electric
vehicles that is different to the one currently used in the Bolt EV which
will lower production costs and make the vehicles more profitable.

“One of the things we'll be doing is structurally integrating the batteries
into the architecture. This will allow us to take out cost and gives us
better flexibility from a design perspective,” says Barra.

“We will have modular [battery] cell chemistry solutions that will allow us
to enter multiple segments off of this platform and really support all of
the customer demands,” she says.

“We'll also have the ability, which we have today, to manufacture battery
packs at scale, both in China and the United States. So the result is a very
modular battery platform that's going to give us tremendous flexibility to
meet customer demands and to lower cost,” says Barra.

According to Reuters, Barra also says that GM expects its battery cell cost
to fall from U.S $145 per kilowatt-hour (kWh) in the Chevy Bolt, to less
than U.S $100 per kWh with the new platform.

While Barra didn't give specifics at the Barclays function, she also told
the assembled analysts that GM is improving the design of its battery packs,
making them lower in height which makes them easier to mount into the floor
of a vehicle and also modular, so that small and large battery packs can be
assembled from common components.

According to Reuters, the Chevrolet Bolt was the first mass-produced
electric vehicle to go more than 200 miles (320km) between charges, and sell
under U.S $40,000.

GM sold 23,297 Bolts in 2017 while Tesla produced 1,770 of its U.S $35,000
Model 3, well short of the company’s original targets.
[© autocar.co.nz]


+
http://thenewswheel.com/cadillac-set-to-receive-a-disproportionate-share-of-gms-upcoming-electric-vehicles/
Cadillac Set to Receive a “Disproportionate” Share of GM’s Upcoming Electric
Vehicles
January 31, 2018  Cadillac could soon be returning to its roots as the GM
brand where new technology is introduced to the masses. A few months ago,
The News Wheel reported that Buick would likely lead the …
http://thenewswheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Cadillac-CT6-Plug-In-for-China-760x605.jpeg


http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/tYA6haBUYX2exvtUJxq2eI/Nissan-braintovehicle-technology-What-if-cars-could-read.html
Nissan brain-to-vehicle technology: What if cars could read your mind?
Jan 27 2018  Now, Japanese car-maker Nissan has unveiled a new
brain-to-vehicle (B2V) technology that will enable autonomous cars to learn
from the human brain and ... which is still in the concept stage, will be a
part of autonomous vehicles ... the autonomous system in the vehicle will
able to take actions—such as turning the steering wheel or slowing the car
...
http://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period2/2018/01/27/Photos/Processed/nissan2-ksif--621x...@livemint.jpg





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[EVDL] EVLN: Volvo's 1st hatchback EV arrives in 2019 r:310mi

2018-02-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV


https://www.slashgear.com/volvo-ev-what-the-all-electric-model-3-rival-will-look-like-29517371/
Volvo EV: What the all-electric Model 3 rival will look like
Jan 29, 2018  Chris Davies

[images  
https://c.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/volvo-40-2-concept-ev-1-980x620.jpg

https://c.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/volvo-40-series-concepts-28.jpg

https://c.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/volvo-40-series-concepts-10-1280x683.jpg
]

Volvo’s first all-electric car will arrive in 2019 as an entirely new model,
but it turns out the automaker has already shown us just what we can expect.
The Swedish car company has a number of hybrids on the market already,
combining four-cylinder gas engines with electric motors, but is working on
its first entirely battery-electric, plug-in vehicle.

According to previous announcements, the Volvo plug-in will have a range of
around 310 miles before it needs to be recharged. It’ll be based on Volvo’s
Compact Modular Architecture (CMA), too, which was designed with various
types of electrification in mind. The current XC40 crossover uses the CMA,
for example.

Indeed, the XC40 is topical, since when Volvo showed us the concept car that
evolved into the production XC40, it also showed us what we could expect
from this all-new, all-electric vehicle. That was the Volvo 40.2 Concept,
back in 2016, a high-riding hatchback. Research & Development chief Henrik
Green confirmed the concept’s path to market to Autocar.

The Volvo 40.2 was described as a “notchback” back when the automaker’s
designers pulled the wraps off it. Not quite a sedan, but not a V series
station wagon either, it was explained as a fully electric vehicle from the
start. “We would not show this car if we weren’t seriously considering
putting it into production,” Thomas Ingenlath, senior VP of design at Volvo,
said of the concept, though it was the more traditional crossover style of
the 40.1 that made it to market first as the XC40.

According to Green, however, there won’t be long to wait. The production
40.2 – which is yet to be officially named – will use a modular battery
system, though Volvo is leaving announcing the final range until closer to
launch. That’s down to the ever-changing expectations of the market.

Indeed, only two years ago, the 40.2 concept was described as offering 217
miles on a full charge. In contrast to what the Chevrolet Bolt EV and Tesla
Model 3 offer today, however, that looks on the low side, particularly for
the sort of premium segment the new Volvo will be targeting. Going modular
will allow the automaker to stay as flexible as it can, offering multiple
drivetrain variations – such as all-wheel drive, front-wheel drive, or
rear-wheel drive – together with different ranges so as to hit a spread of
price points.

After the Volvo 40.2 production EV, Volvo plans a fully-electric version of
the XC40. The compact crossover is the basis of its Care by Volvo car
subscription scheme, which offers the use of the SUV – along with all
insurance, tax, maintenance, and other fees bar gas – for a set monthly fee.
The same strategy will be used for the Polestar 1 electric sports car, and
Volvo has said before that it envisages such subscription plans eventually
including benefits like use of a gas-engine vehicle at times when an EV
might not be so practical, such as when facing an extended road trip.

For example, someone subscribing to an electric Volvo, like the production
40.2 or the XC40 EV, could also have a number of days access to a gasoline
or hybrid version of the XC40 – or, indeed, a larger car like the XC60 or
XC90 – included as part of their monthly payment. That way, were they to
require a bigger vehicle to carry more people or cargo, or the easier
refueling of a gas-powered car, they could temporarily borrow one. The hope
is that such flexibility will help settle range anxiety which is slowing
down pure-EV adoption. 
[© autoblog.com]


https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/29/volvo-first-ev-2019-hatchback/
Volvo's first EV will be a hatchback shooting for 310-mile range. ... In May
2016, when Volvo showed off the concept that previewed the XC40, it also
unveiled a hatchback sedan called Concept 40.2. ... Now, a report from
Autocar claims that Volvo's first all-electric vehicle will be a ...
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Vahana - Pilotless, Electric Vehicle From Airbus Successfully Tested
February 3 , 2018  Airbus on Friday announced that they have successfully
held the first test flight of Vahana- an electric, pilotless flying vehicle
that will have the capacity to ship people around cities. The Wednesday
flight at a test range in the US territory of Oregon kept going for a

Re: [EVDL] Electric Caterpillar...

2018-02-04 Thread Dan Kegel via EV
Nice, and they've sold a lot of them.  It's not a battery hybrid,
though, more like ships that use electric drive.

https://www.constructionequipment.com/crawler-dozers/caterpillar-d7e-dozer-tractor-hands-tractor-evaluation
- Dan

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV  wrote:
> Here's an electric dozer Caterpillar D7E
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7JNPolgxDk
>
> 60% fewer parts...
>
> Rush Dougherty
> Tucson AZ 85719
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[EVDL] Electric Caterpillar...

2018-02-04 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Here's an electric dozer Caterpillar D7E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7JNPolgxDk

60% fewer parts...

Rush Dougherty
Tucson AZ 85719




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[EVDL] article: The Breakneck Rise of China’s Colossus of Electric-Car Batteries

2018-02-04 Thread Paul Wujek via EV

Chinese plans for lithium cell production far surpass other countries:

https://www.bloomberg.com/hyperdrive

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Re: [EVDL] Harley Davidson

2018-02-04 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
ion-r-and-rs-electric-superbikes-first-look-review-photos
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​So basically I'm thinking that any success the Livewire brings will likely
not be Harley's, but we should still be (cautiously) happy ​it's being
released.

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