Re: [EVDL] Hardware for my trike electrification. Still need batteries charger and bms.
Not sure what the laws are in California, but this vehicle will not qualify as a 'bicycle' (three wheels or less) in legal terms. 750 W is the limit for that. I'm guessing it will be considered a moped, not sure what that means WRT licensing, insurance, helmet requirements, etc. When you say the modules are in the open air, I hope you mean in an insulated box. Having any airflow through a somewhat shielded enclosure will have them covered in dust, condensation, insect nests, etc., all of which can lead to ground faults. This will be an interesting vehicle and therefore an 'attractive nuisance' (look it up) in terms of liability, should anyone touch it while it's charging. What was the charger company that Roger Stockton worked for? Didn't they make up to 72 V chargers with a fat enough amp output to be useful for a biggish pack? Should be a lot of fun. Good luck with it. Be careful in traffic - I'm sure you're already aware of the "eyeball to sidewall" perspective and what it means for visibility. Chris On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:00 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Here are the drive parts ordered from Luna Cycle with prices, shipping and > tax so people can what it really costs. This will power a Steintrike > Explorer model. I want to use 4 kw of Nissan Leaf modules to power the > system. I will need a charger and bms and of course some sort of > enclosure. Not sure it is wise to have the modules in the open air but > they are air cooled. Lawrence Rhodes > > 3 Speed Adjustable Switch wth Cruise Control > CYCLONE-3SPD 1 $20.00 > > > 40 amp 48-72v Ebike Controller > CYCLONE-CNTRLR 1 $49.95 > > Cyclone Mid Drive Ebike Motor With Freewheel Sprocket 4000 watt > CYCLONE-MTR-BARE 1 $219.99 USD > > > Cyclone Pedal Assist Add on Cadence Sensor >CYCLONE-PAS 1 $12.95 USD > > Right Full Twist Throttle for Cyclone Drive with LED Voltage Display > CYCLONE-TWST-FULL 1 $24.95 USD > > Subtotal: $327.84 USD > > Shipping: $30.00 USD > > Tax : $27.86 USD > > Grand Total: $385.70 USD > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20181120/8ea3ce08/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Ghosn out
That’s possible, but I doubt it. Many of the OEMs are pushing hard on their development efforts, and Nissan is ahead of most of them. They are also doing a lot in fuel cell work, so I see them continuing to press for zero emission vehicles. I’ve said it before, and I still believe it - we’re at or past the tipping point. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Nov 20, 2018, at 6:20 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > > IIRC Ghosn pushed hard for the Nissan / Renault EV program. This could > change things, maybe not for the better. > > QUOTE: > > Carlos Ghosn no longer able to lead Renault, says French minister > > Car executive, who is also chairman of Nissan, arrested in Japan over > alleged misconduct > > Julia Kollewe and Graeme Wearden > > Tue 20 Nov 2018 09.37 GMT > > France´s finance minister has said Carlos Ghosn cannot remain in charge of > Renault, after the leading figure in the global car industry was arrested on > Monday by Japanese prosecutors. [...] > > Ghosn is accused of having understated his income and was exposed by a > whistleblower in a move that shocked the automotive industry. [...] > > On Monday, Nissan said it would fire Ghosn this week, while the Mitsubishi > board will meet next week. [...] > > Japan´s public broadcaster NHK reported that Nissan paid "huge sums" to buy > luxury houses for Ghosn in four cities around the globe. The properties, in > Rio de Janeiro, Beirut, Paris and Amsterdam, were acquired "without any > legitimate business reason", it claimed. > > Ghosn´s downfall is expected to trigger a battle between Japan and France > for control of the Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi alliance. > > MORE: > > https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/20/carlos-ghosn-renault-nissan- > arrested-japan > > https://v.gd/7PsraR > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Ghosn out
IIRC Ghosn pushed hard for the Nissan / Renault EV program. This could change things, maybe not for the better. QUOTE: Carlos Ghosn no longer able to lead Renault, says French minister Car executive, who is also chairman of Nissan, arrested in Japan over alleged misconduct Julia Kollewe and Graeme Wearden Tue 20 Nov 2018 09.37 GMT France´s finance minister has said Carlos Ghosn cannot remain in charge of Renault, after the leading figure in the global car industry was arrested on Monday by Japanese prosecutors. [...] Ghosn is accused of having understated his income and was exposed by a whistleblower in a move that shocked the automotive industry. [...] On Monday, Nissan said it would fire Ghosn this week, while the Mitsubishi board will meet next week. [...] Japan´s public broadcaster NHK reported that Nissan paid "huge sums" to buy luxury houses for Ghosn in four cities around the globe. The properties, in Rio de Janeiro, Beirut, Paris and Amsterdam, were acquired "without any legitimate business reason", it claimed. Ghosn´s downfall is expected to trigger a battle between Japan and France for control of the Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi alliance. MORE: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/20/carlos-ghosn-renault-nissan- arrested-japan https://v.gd/7PsraR David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Koch/Big-Oil Likes Its Own Giant Subsidy, not EVs'
sal to end tax breaks for rich white guys when they
> buy electric vehicles. Why not break out the bubbly just yet? It impac...
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> https://www.worldcoal.com/power/19112018/new-research-suggests-energy-revolution-will-create-a-divide-in-britains-economy/
> New research suggests ‘energy revolution’ will create a divide in Britain’s
> economy
> 19 November 2018 ... local policies and average household income have
> resulted in more affluent regions ... It is also cheaper, on average, to own
> an electric car in London than in any ... the exemption of electric vehicles
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> http://archive.kuow.org/post/challenging-idea-electric-vehicles-are-rich
> Challenging The Idea That Electric Vehicles Are For The Rich
> Jun 20, 2017 A Portland family tests out a new pilot electric car sharing
> program in the Cully neighborhood. Courtesy of Forth Poor people spend more
> of their income on gas and transportation and their neighborhoo...
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> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/government-electric-car-subsidies-costly-133500607.html
> Government Electric Car Subsidies Are 'Costly Subsidies for the Rich', Finds
> New Study
> February 13, 2018 99 Percent of Total Tax Credits Go to Households with
> $50K+ Incomes SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 13, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- Generous,
> taxpayer-funded subsidies for electric car purchases have become just
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> https://global.handelsblatt.com/companies/electric-cars-blackouts-german-cities-878678
> Electric cars pose blackout threat to German cities
> January 24, 2018 Electric cars will pose a risk of blackouts, first in
> affluent exurbs of cities like Munich, Frankfurt or Berlin and then later
> nationwide. It’s cold comfort that other countries face the same problem ...
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> https://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/mannerisms/shenanigans/silly-subsidy-2018-11/
> Silly Subsidy
> 13th November 2018 It turns out that companies have been claiming
> government subsidies of up to £4,500 apiece on hybrid cars but haven’t used
> the electric engine. The subsidy propelled the UK to become Europe’s biggest
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> https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/the-6-trillion-barrier-holding-back-electric-cars
> The $6-trillion barrier holding back electric cars
> November 5, 2018 Electric vehicle sales rose 55 percent in the country ...
> the transition costs will have to be reduced through government sub...
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> https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/dunning/bob-dunning-if-you-drive-a-hybrid-theyll-tax-the-street/
> Bob Dunning: If you drive a hybrid, they'll tax the street …
> Oct 30, 2018 Critics claim electric cars are important assets in the fight
> against pollution and global ... The rule applies to rich and poor alike,
> whether they're driving a Cadillac ...
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> https://insideevs.com/electric-cars-becoming-must-have-rich-famous/
> Electric Cars Are Becoming A Must-Have For The Rich & Famous
> JUN 29 2018 Once seen as the domain of tech geeks and tree huggers,
> electric cars have transformed into the new, must-have accessory for the
> rich and famous. Hannah Elliott reports (via Bloomberg), “When marketin...
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> https://www.bloombergquint.com/technology/oil-demand-for-cars-and-transportation-is-already-falling#gs.cNL3Jjg
> Oil Demand for Cars Is Already Falling
> Nov 16, 2018 Add in the much smaller displacement from electric cars, and
> there's 279,000 ... only endorsed environmental, social and governance goals
> once they got rich ...
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> https://community.oilprice.com/topic/4012-could-evs-become-cheaper-than-ice-cars-by-2023/
> Could EVs Become Cheaper than ICE Cars by 2023?
> Nov 6, 2018 As a result sales are either to the concerned rich (most of
> Tesla's customers to . European electric vehicles are by far at a much
> more advanced level than ...
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[EVDL] Hardware for my trike electrification. Still need batteries charger and bms.
Here are the drive parts ordered from Luna Cycle with prices, shipping and tax so people can what it really costs. This will power a Steintrike Explorer model. I want to use 4 kw of Nissan Leaf modules to power the system. I will need a charger and bms and of course some sort of enclosure. Not sure it is wise to have the modules in the open air but they are air cooled. Lawrence Rhodes 3 Speed Adjustable Switch wth Cruise Control CYCLONE-3SPD 1 $20.00 40 amp 48-72v Ebike Controller CYCLONE-CNTRLR 1 $49.95 Cyclone Mid Drive Ebike Motor With Freewheel Sprocket 4000 watt CYCLONE-MTR-BARE 1 $219.99 USD Cyclone Pedal Assist Add on Cadence Sensor CYCLONE-PAS 1 $12.95 USD Right Full Twist Throttle for Cyclone Drive with LED Voltage Display CYCLONE-TWST-FULL 1 $24.95 USD Subtotal: $327.84 USD Shipping: $30.00 USD Tax : $27.86 USD Grand Total: $385.70 USD ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
