Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
; > level ground -- the loss of range is hardly noticeable. > > > > Lee Hart > > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/list

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> From: Lee Hart > You're rarely going to drive up a mountain so > steep and long that you *double* your energy consumption going up, and > expend *zero* energy coasting back down. This is pretty well backed up by a hundred years or so of driving experience. When was the last time you budgete

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Oct 2020 at 10:30, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > The 20% "EVDL" number represents the typical energy gain from > having regen in mixed driving, versus not having regen and throwing the > braking energy away to your brakes. Based on what I experienced driving my > Leaf in Colorado, I would guess

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Bill Dube via EV
    In Colorado, you care about the loss of range when you change altitude because you may not have enough range to; A) get to your destination at the higher elevation, or, B) make the return trip from some location at lower elevation.     For example, if you were to drive you brand new Leaf f

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread paul dove via EV
racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 14 Oct 2020 at 6:09, Jay Summet via EV wrote: Regeneration is only about 20% efficient. So they say - at least here on the EVDL. I've read similar declarations for decades. But those statements aren't in accord with the data in the link I provided. http://

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Jay Summet via EV
These people were able to get up to 18% on an i-MiEV measured on a dyno https://www.mdpi.com/2032-6653/5/2/494/pdf Jay On 10/14/20 7:38 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 14 Oct 2020 at 6:09, Jay Summet via EV wrote: Regeneration is only about 20% efficient. So they say - at leas

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think elevation becomes less significant because, in most cases, the overall grade is pretty minimal. In so many words, this is essentially what was explained in a lengthy post earlier (sorry, I can't remember who wrote it). For example, if I were to drive to Snoqualmie Pass, east of Seattle

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Rod Hower via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 14 Oct 2020 at 6:09, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > Regeneration is only about 20% efficient. So they say - at least here on the EVDL. I've read similar declarations for decades. But those statements aren't in accord with the data in the link I provided. http://evdl.org/pages/evergreen.html

Re: [EVDL] Miles consumed for altitude

2020-10-14 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Regeneration is only about 20% efficient. It saves you more power to coast (not expend power) than to regenerate (try and re-capture power you've already spent at 20% efficiency). True, if you are high up, you can regain a lot of power, because you have a lot of potential energybut it too