Re: [EVDL] Does the Biden infrastructure proposal include rail electrification?

2021-04-10 Thread Rod Hower via EV
It doesn't matter what powers the rail, it's much cheaper!To compare the costs of rail vs truck shipping, consider the movement of a bulk commodity from Houston, TX to Cleveland, OH. The truck cost in this example lane is approximately $ 5,159 per load, whereas rail would be $ 6,676 per car.

Re: [EVDL] Does the Biden infrastructure proposal include rail electrification?

2021-04-10 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
There was a discussion on this (rail freight) recently. My thinking is that the biggest overhead to using rail for freight is the "last mile" at each end. In some cases, dock facilities load directly on rail cars but, even so, the cars need to be assembled into trains, which is a big

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: large drone ?

2021-04-10 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Let me further put this back on topic. The automation of the ports is all about electrification with remote controlled EVs and other equipment. Efficiency and throughout is increased. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Apr 10, 2021, at 7:05 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > >

[EVDL] Does the Biden infrastructure proposal include rail electrification?

2021-04-10 Thread Paul Wallace via EV
I’ve been amused with all this work going into autonomous trucking, but I wonder if the money and energy wouldn’t be better spent with serious upgrades to freight rail service, including long haul electrification. Much of what I hear and see with the vision of trucking is that eventually, the

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: large drone ?

2021-04-10 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Well, now really off topic :) I don't have a preference on whether a human or not delivers packages. I do respect that some people like that kind of job, and so I support their rights to a quality work environment. But, long term, we will continue to mechanize (robotize) more and more kinds

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: large drone ?

2021-04-10 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
Not only off topic but away from the discussion of the article I read. The drone is to be used for deliveries between hubs avoiding the need for a central hub. Had nothing to do with home delivery. Maybe I read the wrong article? Grasser -Original Message- From: EV

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: large drone ?

2021-04-10 Thread Bill Dube via EV
My hypothetical proposal was for EV drones (both tethered and perhaps non-tethered) delivering packages from a truck (which could be an EV) driven by a person. This would be safer as the driver could remain in the truck, and not worry about slippery terrain, strained muscles, viscous dogs, or

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: large drone ?

2021-04-10 Thread George Mullineaux via EV
Thanks for the head-slap, David. You are absolutely correct. George Mullineaux 3rd Shift Wrench Monkey Pinnacle Corrugated, Landis, N.C. -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 02:47 To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc:

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: large drone ?

2021-04-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This thread is mostly off topic. However, there are a couple of critical points that everyone posting so far seems to be missing. I want Amazon, UPS, Fedex, and ESPECIALLY USPS to convert their delivery fleets to EVs. But I want HUMANS driving them. I want HUMANS delivering my packages to