Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

[Lawrence Winiarski via EV]

> Would or will YOU agree to it?
Kind of reminds me of this.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUPOvcolNZg





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On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 04:02:04 PM PST, EV List Lackey via EV 
 wrote:  
 
 I've been saying for years that if you buy a Tesla, you don't really own it.

It seems that goes double for the Cybertruck.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-
first-year-2023-11

shortcut URL: https://v.gd/QA68vz

I'm sure there must be a good reason for this - right?  

Would or will YOU agree to it?

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

[EV@TucsonEV via EV]

Also note that the pdf that the provision is contained in has on the last page -
5 pages of 4

Attention to detail...

Best regards,

Rush Dougherty
TucsonEV
www.TucsonEV.com




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> Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?
>
> I've been saying for years that if you buy a Tesla, you don't really own it.
>
> It seems that goes double for the Cybertruck.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-
> first-year-2023-11
>
> shortcut URL: https://v.gd/QA68vz
>
> I'm sure there must be a good reason for this - right?
>
> Would or will YOU agree to it?
>
> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
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[EVDL] mini cooper EV

[Peri Hartman via EV]

Well, I'm selling my 2011 leaf and already purchased a used 2022 mini 
cooper. I know it's considered a compliance car, with only about 120 
miles range, but compared to 30-60 we've been getting in the leaf, that 
will seem like infinity. Plenty for greater seattle area, anyway.


My wife wanted something smaller than the leaf and, I think, the only 
other commercially available choice would be the smart EV, which really 
doesn't have enough range.


So far, I'm pretty happy with the mini. It has a bunch of features I 
don't care about, but the seats are way more comfortable than the leaf 
and the visibility going around corners and through intersections is 
also much better. The only drawback so far, for me, is there appears to 
be no way to monitor the state of charge without going to the vehicle 
and unlocking it. The leaf had 3 flashing lights on the dash which could 
be seen at a distance. Not great but better than nothing.


Anyone want to buy a leaf ? 45000 miles, 8 bars. Some minor scratches 
and dents. I'm asking $4k but could accept less. Pictures and more 
details available if anyone is interested.


Peri

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

[Ryan Fulcher via EV]

If your the second hand buyer, you have no legal obligation to wait a
year... Lol... Just sayin'

I have two reservations, and am wondering how I'll let a brother or friend
leverage the second one...  Although, the second (~40k) is a single motor,
so it might take a year to get to that variant, and so by then I can sell
my first (~7k) trip motor and update the other to a quad motor plaid
version, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 16:55 Jay Summet via EV  wrote:

> If you don't want to agree to the contract, wait a year and then buy it
> used from somebody who did
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

[Michael Ross via EV]

Trying to head off the scalpers. Makes sense from that POV.

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 7:01 PM EV List Lackey via EV 
wrote:

> I've been saying for years that if you buy a Tesla, you don't really own
> it.
>
> It seems that goes double for the Cybertruck.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-
> first-year-2023-11
> <https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-first-year-2023-11>
>
> shortcut URL: https://v.gd/QA68vz
>
> I'm sure there must be a good reason for this - right?
>
> Would or will YOU agree to it?
>
> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

[Jay Summet via EV]

This is a common type of contract for many high end / high demand 
vehicles.   Some exotic sports cars are only offered to previous good 
customers, and they are prevented from re-selling them for a set time 
period for similar reasons.


As long as you entered into the contract of your own free will, they are 
enforceable in civil courts.



If you don't want to agree to the contract, wait a year and then buy it 
used from somebody who did



Jay

On 11/12/23 19:23, John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
Most likely to try and prevent the fake "Tesla dealers".  The truck will 
be in high demand, so they want to prevent scalpers.


On 11/12/2023 3:59 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
I've been saying for years that if you buy a Tesla, you don't really 
own it.


It seems that goes double for the Cybertruck.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-
first-year-2023-11


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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

[John Lussmyer via EV]

Most likely to try and prevent the fake "Tesla dealers".  The truck will 
be in high demand, so they want to prevent scalpers.


On 11/12/2023 3:59 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:

I've been saying for years that if you buy a Tesla, you don't really own it.

It seems that goes double for the Cybertruck.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-
first-year-2023-11


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[EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

[EV List Lackey via EV]

I've been saying for years that if you buy a Tesla, you don't really own it.

It seems that goes double for the Cybertruck.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-
first-year-2023-11

shortcut URL: https://v.gd/QA68vz

I'm sure there must be a good reason for this - right?  

Would or will YOU agree to it?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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