Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v)
Thanks, I saw one in Phoenix about 8 years ago. It had NiCd. My memory is not decreasing. From: EV on behalf of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 2:09 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL Administrator Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v) On 24 Sep 2018 at 18:15, ROBERT via EV wrote: > Sorry misspelling. Chrysler not Crystal. Got it, thanks. I should have recognized that, and might have if I'd looked at the subject line. :-\ Presumably you're thinking of the TEVan (early 1990s) and the EPIC (mid-late 1990s). Half the TEVans had 180ah Saft nickel cadmium batteries, the other half had 200ah Eagle-Picher nickel-iron batteries. Not many were sold, but some are still running around. Others were apparently scrapped, and now and then you come across someone offering the NiCd or NiFe batteries from them for sale. The EPIC had Saft NiMH batteries. Someone correct me if this is wrong, but I think Saft was one of only 2 companies (Gold Peak was the other) that grabbed licenses from Ovonic before Ovonic slammed the door on anyone making NiMH modules big enough to use in real EVs, a license term that should have been criminal. Wikipedia says that some EPICs had lead batteries, but I've never found corroboration for that. I think the EPIC was only leased, not sold. No idea where any of them are now. Probably in scrap yards. Both were factory (EPTO, Electric Power Train Option) conversions of the short wheelbase Dodge Caravan / Plymouth Voyager vans. As a point of trivia, EPIC originally stood for Electric Powered INTRAurban Commuter, NOT INTERurban Commuter, as is usually stated. I remember reading an article about the EPIC back in the mid-1990s that took pains to point out the difference. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/intra- https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/inter- Chrysler meant that it was an EV for use within the city, not between cities, hence "intraurban." But I guess the Chryser PR and advertising people didn't know the difference between the words, or didn't care. Presumably whomever coined the name didn't bother to correct them, or couldn't, so it became "interurban." But now at least YOU know, in case you're a language geek too. :-) David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180925/71d81c7f/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v)
On 24 Sep 2018 at 18:15, ROBERT via EV wrote: > Sorry misspelling. Chrysler not Crystal. Got it, thanks. I should have recognized that, and might have if I'd looked at the subject line. :-\ Presumably you're thinking of the TEVan (early 1990s) and the EPIC (mid-late 1990s). Half the TEVans had 180ah Saft nickel cadmium batteries, the other half had 200ah Eagle-Picher nickel-iron batteries. Not many were sold, but some are still running around. Others were apparently scrapped, and now and then you come across someone offering the NiCd or NiFe batteries from them for sale. The EPIC had Saft NiMH batteries. Someone correct me if this is wrong, but I think Saft was one of only 2 companies (Gold Peak was the other) that grabbed licenses from Ovonic before Ovonic slammed the door on anyone making NiMH modules big enough to use in real EVs, a license term that should have been criminal. Wikipedia says that some EPICs had lead batteries, but I've never found corroboration for that. I think the EPIC was only leased, not sold. No idea where any of them are now. Probably in scrap yards. Both were factory (EPTO, Electric Power Train Option) conversions of the short wheelbase Dodge Caravan / Plymouth Voyager vans. As a point of trivia, EPIC originally stood for Electric Powered INTRAurban Commuter, NOT INTERurban Commuter, as is usually stated. I remember reading an article about the EPIC back in the mid-1990s that took pains to point out the difference. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/intra- https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/inter- Chrysler meant that it was an EV for use within the city, not between cities, hence "intraurban." But I guess the Chryser PR and advertising people didn't know the difference between the words, or didn't care. Presumably whomever coined the name didn't bother to correct them, or couldn't, so it became "interurban." But now at least YOU know, in case you're a language geek too. :-) David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v)
Sorry misspelling. Chrysler not Crystal. From: EV on behalf of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:17 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL Administrator Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v) On 24 Sep 2018 at 14:34, ROBERT via EV wrote: > Didn't Crystal make an electric van in the 1990s? I guess it has come full > circle. Crystal? I remember a fair bit of the EV activity that took place in the 1990s, and I don't recall that one at all. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180924/77e95f57/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v)
On 24 Sep 2018 at 14:34, ROBERT via EV wrote: > Didn't Crystal make an electric van in the 1990s? I guess it has come full > circle. Crystal? I remember a fair bit of the EV activity that took place in the 1990s, and I don't recall that one at all. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v)
Didn't Crystal make an electric van in the 1990s? I guess it has come full
circle.
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Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v)
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/chrysler-portal-ev-production-report/
Chrysler Portal electric minivan heading to production, report says
September 17, 2018 Andrew Krok
[images
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/chrysler-portal-a-concept-for-old-millennials-fca-ces-2017/
]
It could arrive in 2020, as the 300 sedan reportedly bids its final
farewell.
Chrysler
Chrysler debuted the wild Portal concept at CES 2017, and... then it sort of
fell by the wayside. But it could come roaring back as an honest-to-goodness
production model, if one report is to be believed.
The Chrysler Portal electric minivan will make its way to production in
2020, says Automotive News. The report is part of AN's far-reaching Future
Product Pipeline series, which relies on insider reports and other sources
to predict future products across the automotive industry. AN also predicts
that 2020 will be the year that the venerable Chrysler 300 sedan will also
disappear into the ether for good.
Chrysler did not immediately return a request for comment. That said,
automakers routinely decline to discuss future products, instead preferring
to release information on their own terms, whether that means teaser images
or waiting until the actual debut.
The Portal will reportedly head to production carrying the same name as the
concept, and like its concept sibling, AN says it will rely on a
battery-electric powertrain. If you're looking for specific figures, you'll
have to keep on waiting -- none of that will likely arrive until Chrysler
actually confirms its existence.
When it first debuted at CES 2017, the Chrysler Portal made waves. Sporting
an aggressive minivan shape that was a far cry from the production version
of the Pacifica minivan, the Portal hoped to capture the attention of
Millennials with its focus on next-gen tech. It packed
vehicle-to-infrastructure and vehicle-to-vehicle communications, promised
SAE Level 3 autonomy and had some killer screens on the inside. It even
relied on face recognition to determine who was driving the car, tailoring
the vehicle's settings to suit that specific person.
[© cnet.com CBS Interactive]
...
https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/media_center/insights/Pages/chrysler_portal_concept.aspx
fca portal_concept
https://www.fcagroup.com/it-IT/media_center/insights/FiatGallery/FCA_Chrysler_Portal_concept_003.jpg
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/18/chrysler-schedules-portal-electric-minivan-for-production/
Chrysler Schedules Portal Electric Minivan For 2020 Production
September 18th, 2018 The Chrysler Portal concept is designed to respond to
these needs and it explores the possibility of what a family transportation
vehicle could look like for the ...
https://youtu.be/Bc-bDMoN6zo
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https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/18/chrysler-schedules-portal-electric-minivan-for-production/
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[EVDL] EVLN: Chrysler Portal e-minivan production (v)
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/chrysler-portal-ev-production-report/
Chrysler Portal electric minivan heading to production, report says
September 17, 2018 Andrew Krok
[images
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/chrysler-portal-a-concept-for-old-millennials-fca-ces-2017/
]
It could arrive in 2020, as the 300 sedan reportedly bids its final
farewell.
Chrysler
Chrysler debuted the wild Portal concept at CES 2017, and... then it sort of
fell by the wayside. But it could come roaring back as an honest-to-goodness
production model, if one report is to be believed.
The Chrysler Portal electric minivan will make its way to production in
2020, says Automotive News. The report is part of AN's far-reaching Future
Product Pipeline series, which relies on insider reports and other sources
to predict future products across the automotive industry. AN also predicts
that 2020 will be the year that the venerable Chrysler 300 sedan will also
disappear into the ether for good.
Chrysler did not immediately return a request for comment. That said,
automakers routinely decline to discuss future products, instead preferring
to release information on their own terms, whether that means teaser images
or waiting until the actual debut.
The Portal will reportedly head to production carrying the same name as the
concept, and like its concept sibling, AN says it will rely on a
battery-electric powertrain. If you're looking for specific figures, you'll
have to keep on waiting -- none of that will likely arrive until Chrysler
actually confirms its existence.
When it first debuted at CES 2017, the Chrysler Portal made waves. Sporting
an aggressive minivan shape that was a far cry from the production version
of the Pacifica minivan, the Portal hoped to capture the attention of
Millennials with its focus on next-gen tech. It packed
vehicle-to-infrastructure and vehicle-to-vehicle communications, promised
SAE Level 3 autonomy and had some killer screens on the inside. It even
relied on face recognition to determine who was driving the car, tailoring
the vehicle's settings to suit that specific person.
[© cnet.com CBS Interactive]
...
https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/media_center/insights/Pages/chrysler_portal_concept.aspx
fca portal_concept
https://www.fcagroup.com/it-IT/media_center/insights/FiatGallery/FCA_Chrysler_Portal_concept_003.jpg
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/18/chrysler-schedules-portal-electric-minivan-for-production/
Chrysler Schedules Portal Electric Minivan For 2020 Production
September 18th, 2018 The Chrysler Portal concept is designed to respond to
these needs and it explores the possibility of what a family transportation
vehicle could look like for the ...
https://youtu.be/Bc-bDMoN6zo
+
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/18/chrysler-schedules-portal-electric-minivan-for-production/
Electric Driving in an Oil State
September 18th, 2018 Typically, electric cars are more expensive than your
standard internal combustion vehicle, especially when you compare the
features and niceties inside ...
For EVLN EV-newswire posts use:
http://evdl.org/archive/
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