Re: [EVDL] article:The world's largest electric vehicle travels soon in Switzerland

2016-03-19 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
That's nothing new... people have been rolling rocks (read cargo) down hills for
years...  the problem is getting the rocks back up.

So while the loaded vehicle may have a net gain in electricity, it is a little
false to say that, since you're not taking into consideration the energy of the
cargo. I'll bet that the unloaded vehicle going down the hill does not produce
more electricity than it consumes going up the hill.

Rush Dougherty
Tucson AZ 85719

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> Funny that the vehicle is a net generator of electricity because it transports
heavy loads
> downhill, so the regen braking produces more power than it takes to move the
empty truck
> back up.
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> Cor van de Water
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Re: [EVDL] article:The world's largest electric vehicle travels soon in Switzerland

2016-03-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Mar 2016 at 19:49, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote:

> I'll bet that the unloaded vehicle going down the hill does not
> produce more electricity than it consumes going up the hill.

Unless some exceedingly large-headed politician (thinks he) has managed to 
change the laws of physics, that'd be a pretty safe bet.  :-)

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Re: [EVDL] article:The world's largest electric vehicle travels soon in Switzerland

2016-03-19 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Funny that the vehicle is a net generator of electricity
because it transports heavy loads downhill, so the regen braking
produces more power than it takes to move the empty truck back up.

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Re: [EVDL] article:The world's largest electric vehicle travels soon in Switzerland

2016-03-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV

EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:

I'll bet that the unloaded vehicle going down the hill does not
produce more electricity than it consumes going up the hill.


Unless some exceedingly large-headed politician (thinks he) has managed to
change the laws of physics, that'd be a pretty safe bet.  :-)


In the days of electrified railroads, it was common for a train going 
down a hill to regenerate power back into its overhead wires or third 
rail. They would schedule the trains so another train somewhere else was 
going *up* hill at the same time.


In a similar vein, electric commuter trains will regenerate power to 
slow down coming into a station. The power generated benefits some other 
train that is accelerating *out* of a station.


These measures were used to avoid wear and tear on the brakes, and 
because they didn't have batteries that could to store the extra energy 
like we do in hybrids.

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