Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-23 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
s. Long story short, Nissan gets the effective credit. -- Original Message -- From: "Cor van de Water via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Sent: 22-Dec-16 3:37:41 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is t

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
55:10 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s On 12/22/2016 05:37 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Peri, Agreed, only it is not going to Tesla/Nissan but to their customers. The manufacturers are not reaping dire

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 12/22/2016 05:37 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Peri, Agreed, only it is not going to Tesla/Nissan but to their customers. The manufacturers are not reaping direct benefits other than that their prices are artificially lowered for those customers who qualify for (part of) the tax

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Don't know how much Tesla's getting. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Cor van de Water via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Sent: 22-Dec-16 1:05:23 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartes

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
. From: damon henry [mailto:damonhe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:29 PM To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s I think what you are doing with the Leaf bat

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
-- Original Message -- From: "Cor van de Water via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Sent: 22-Dec-16 1:05:23 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread damon henry via EV
<ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:20:51 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s During commute times, almost every 5th car that you see on the road in Silicon Valle

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
. From: damon henry [mailto:damonhe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:11 AM To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s Yes, there

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread damon henry via EV
nt: Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:20:51 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s During commute times, almost every 5th car that you see on the road in Silicon Valley is a Leaf so I'd say that for

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph, 0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the "smartest" 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s Successful OEM electric vehicle??? Has there truly been one yet? Perhaps the Nissan Leaf, but I think the jury is still out on whether this EV thing will ever work out or not. I'm hopeful it will. As

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Dec 2016 at 17:25, damon henry via EV wrote: > transmissions ... are not generally necessary on vehicles engineered > from the ground up as electric ... Absolutely. And the Smart was originally conceived in the mid-1990s as an EV. Satch's Nicholad Hayek proposed a tiny electric runabout

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread damon henry via EV
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s CVT transmission? In an EV? Seriously? No successful OEM electric vehicle has any sort of transmission, at least none that I am aware of. Touting a transmission on a

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Bill Dube via EV
I suspect that the journalist has his facts wrong. He writes: "I was also surprised to note it had a standard heated steering wheel, which you might think would be an energy hog, as well as standard heated seats." This shows ignorance. Heated seats and steering wheel put the heat directly

Re: [EVDL] 4th-gen is the “smartest” 42ED EV yet r:160km ts:130kph,0-100kph:11.5s

2016-12-22 Thread Bill Dube via EV
CVT transmission? In an EV? Seriously? No successful OEM electric vehicle has any sort of transmission, at least none that I am aware of. Touting a transmission on a prototype EV is a huge red flag. It shows that the design team is very inexperienced (or was overruled by management, which has