Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

2017-11-19 Thread paul dove via EV
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:36 PM, Haudy Kazemi via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> It's a Spaceballs movie reference for the fastest starship speed. Like 
> turning it up to 11 is a reference to the film This Is Spinal Tap.
> Tesla likes to make certain pop cultural references in their vehicle user 
> interface options for drive motor and fan speed performance settings.
> 
>> On November 18, 2017 8:32:19 PM CST, Rod Hower via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
>> wrote:
>> Not getting this post, plaid? 
>> 
>> On Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:27 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV
>> <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Musk claimed that the new Roadster's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds would be the
>> fastest of any production auto ever.
>> 
>> Musk coined a new term for being faster than insane or ludicrous mode -
>> plaid.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:34 AM, ROBERT via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Porsche announced the Mission E base price is 85K and will be
>> available in 2019.  The Mission E is slower 0-60 in 3.5 sec; however,
>> it will be available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________
>>> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV
>> <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 3:50 AM
>>> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
>>> Cc: brucedp5
>>> Subject: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s
>> ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 'Super e-Roadster that can travel from SF to L.A. – and back – on a
>> single
>>> charge'
>>> 
>>> https://www.popsci.com/teslas-new-truck-and-roadster
>>> Tesla is crowdfunding its vehicles with big promises
>>> 20171117  Rob Verger
>>> 
>>> [images  / Tesla
>>> 
>> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6869.jpg?itok=BbXCxNQQ=50,50
>>> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
>>> surprise new Roadster
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6744.jpg?itok=TpAD_r8N=50,50
>>> Tesla's electric trucks have a range of 500 miles and are expected to
>> begin
>>> production in 2019. The total price tag remains unknown.
>>> ]
>>> 
>>> The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.
>>> 
>>> Tesla truck Roadster event
>>> 
>>> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
>>> surprise new Roadster.
>>> 
>>> At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft
>> hanger in
>>> Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s
>> long-expected
>>> electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling
>> another
>>> product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster,
>> an
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Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

2017-11-19 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
2020.

He's always late, so assume 2021.

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:46 AM, ROBERT via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Give him 50K and hope to get it  when??
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mark Abramowitz <ma...@enviropolicy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 11:30 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Cc: ROBERT
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s 
> ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)
> 
> Musk claimed that the new Roadster's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds would be the fastest 
> of any production auto ever.
> 
> Musk coined a new term for being faster than insane or ludicrous mode - plaid.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:34 AM, ROBERT via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Porsche announced the Mission E base price is 85K and will be available in 
>> 2019.  The Mission E is slower 0-60 in 3.5 sec; however, it will be 
>> available.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV 
>> <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 3:50 AM
>> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
>> Cc: brucedp5
>> Subject: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | 
>> (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 'Super e-Roadster that can travel from SF to L.A. – and back – on a single
>> charge'
>> 
>> https://www.popsci.com/teslas-new-truck-and-roadster
>> Tesla is crowdfunding its vehicles with big promises
>> 20171117  Rob Verger
>> 
>> [images  / Tesla
>> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6869.jpg?itok=BbXCxNQQ=50,50
>> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
>> surprise new Roadster
>> 
>> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6744.jpg?itok=TpAD_r8N=50,50
>> Tesla's electric trucks have a range of 500 miles and are expected to begin
>> production in 2019. The total price tag remains unknown.
>> ]
>> 
>> The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.
>> 
>> Tesla truck Roadster event
>> 
>> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
>> surprise new Roadster.
>> 
>> At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft hanger in
>> Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s long-expected
>> electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling another
>> product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster, an
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Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

2017-11-18 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
It's a Spaceballs movie reference for the fastest starship speed. Like turning 
it up to 11 is a reference to the film This Is Spinal Tap.
Tesla likes to make certain pop cultural references in their vehicle user 
interface options for drive motor and fan speed performance settings.

On November 18, 2017 8:32:19 PM CST, Rod Hower via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>Not getting this post, plaid? 
>
>On Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:27 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV
><ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
>
>Musk claimed that the new Roadster's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds would be the
>fastest of any production auto ever.
>
>Musk coined a new term for being faster than insane or ludicrous mode -
>plaid.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:34 AM, ROBERT via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Porsche announced the Mission E base price is 85K and will be
>available in 2019.  The Mission E is slower 0-60 in 3.5 sec; however,
>it will be available.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV
><ev@lists.evdl.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 3:50 AM
>> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
>> Cc: brucedp5
>> Subject: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s
>ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 'Super e-Roadster that can travel from SF to L.A. – and back – on a
>single
>> charge'
>> 
>> https://www.popsci.com/teslas-new-truck-and-roadster
>> Tesla is crowdfunding its vehicles with big promises
>> 20171117  Rob Verger
>> 
>> [images  / Tesla
>>
>https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6869.jpg?itok=BbXCxNQQ=50,50
>> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
>> surprise new Roadster
>> 
>>
>https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6744.jpg?itok=TpAD_r8N=50,50
>> Tesla's electric trucks have a range of 500 miles and are expected to
>begin
>> production in 2019. The total price tag remains unknown.
>> ]
>> 
>> The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.
>> 
>> Tesla truck Roadster event
>> 
>> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
>> surprise new Roadster.
>> 
>> At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft
>hanger in
>> Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s
>long-expected
>> electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling
>another
>> product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster,
>an
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Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

2017-11-18 Thread ROBERT via EV
Give him 50K and hope to get it  when??



From: Mark Abramowitz <ma...@enviropolicy.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 11:30 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: ROBERT
Subject: Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph 
| (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

Musk claimed that the new Roadster's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds would be the fastest 
of any production auto ever.

Musk coined a new term for being faster than insane or ludicrous mode - plaid.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:34 AM, ROBERT via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
> Porsche announced the Mission E base price is 85K and will be available in 
> 2019.  The Mission E is slower 0-60 in 3.5 sec; however, it will be available.
>
>
> 
> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV 
> <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 3:50 AM
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Cc: brucedp5
> Subject: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | 
> (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)
>
>
>
> 'Super e-Roadster that can travel from SF to L.A. – and back – on a single
> charge'
>
> https://www.popsci.com/teslas-new-truck-and-roadster
> Tesla is crowdfunding its vehicles with big promises
> 20171117  Rob Verger
>
> [images  / Tesla
> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6869.jpg?itok=BbXCxNQQ=50,50
> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
> surprise new Roadster
>
> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6744.jpg?itok=TpAD_r8N=50,50
> Tesla's electric trucks have a range of 500 miles and are expected to begin
> production in 2019. The total price tag remains unknown.
> ]
>
> The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.
>
> Tesla truck Roadster event
>
> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
> surprise new Roadster.
>
> At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft hanger in
> Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s long-expected
> electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling another
> product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster, an
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Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

2017-11-18 Thread Rod Hower via EV
Not getting this post, plaid? 

On Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:27 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
 

 Musk claimed that the new Roadster's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds would be the fastest 
of any production auto ever.

Musk coined a new term for being faster than insane or ludicrous mode - plaid.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:34 AM, ROBERT via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Porsche announced the Mission E base price is 85K and will be available in 
> 2019.  The Mission E is slower 0-60 in 3.5 sec; however, it will be available.
> 
> 
> 
> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV 
> <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 3:50 AM
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Cc: brucedp5
> Subject: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | 
> (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)
> 
> 
> 
> 'Super e-Roadster that can travel from SF to L.A. – and back – on a single
> charge'
> 
> https://www.popsci.com/teslas-new-truck-and-roadster
> Tesla is crowdfunding its vehicles with big promises
> 20171117  Rob Verger
> 
> [images  / Tesla
> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6869.jpg?itok=BbXCxNQQ=50,50
> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
> surprise new Roadster
> 
> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6744.jpg?itok=TpAD_r8N=50,50
> Tesla's electric trucks have a range of 500 miles and are expected to begin
> production in 2019. The total price tag remains unknown.
> ]
> 
> The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.
> 
> Tesla truck Roadster event
> 
> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
> surprise new Roadster.
> 
> At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft hanger in
> Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s long-expected
> electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling another
> product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster, an
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Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

2017-11-18 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Musk claimed that the new Roadster's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds would be the fastest 
of any production auto ever.

Musk coined a new term for being faster than insane or ludicrous mode - plaid.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:34 AM, ROBERT via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Porsche announced the Mission E base price is 85K and will be available in 
> 2019.  The Mission E is slower 0-60 in 3.5 sec; however, it will be available.
> 
> 
> 
> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV 
> <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 3:50 AM
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Cc: brucedp5
> Subject: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | 
> (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)
> 
> 
> 
> 'Super e-Roadster that can travel from SF to L.A. – and back – on a single
> charge'
> 
> https://www.popsci.com/teslas-new-truck-and-roadster
> Tesla is crowdfunding its vehicles with big promises
> 20171117  Rob Verger
> 
> [images  / Tesla
> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6869.jpg?itok=BbXCxNQQ=50,50
> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
> surprise new Roadster
> 
> https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6744.jpg?itok=TpAD_r8N=50,50
> Tesla's electric trucks have a range of 500 miles and are expected to begin
> production in 2019. The total price tag remains unknown.
> ]
> 
> The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.
> 
> Tesla truck Roadster event
> 
> Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
> surprise new Roadster.
> 
> At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft hanger in
> Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s long-expected
> electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling another
> product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster, an
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Re: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | (2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)

2017-11-18 Thread ROBERT via EV
Porsche announced the Mission E base price is 85K and will be available in 
2019.  The Mission E is slower 0-60 in 3.5 sec; however, it will be available.



From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 3:50 AM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: brucedp5
Subject: [EVDL] $200k Tesla 2020 Roadster $50k reserve 0-60:1.9s ts:250mph | 
(2019 semi e-truck r:300mi)



'Super e-Roadster that can travel from SF to L.A. – and back – on a single
charge'

https://www.popsci.com/teslas-new-truck-and-roadster
Tesla is crowdfunding its vehicles with big promises
20171117  Rob Verger

[images  / Tesla
https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6869.jpg?itok=BbXCxNQQ=50,50
Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
surprise new Roadster

https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/11/4w2a6744.jpg?itok=TpAD_r8N=50,50
Tesla's electric trucks have a range of 500 miles and are expected to begin
production in 2019. The total price tag remains unknown.
]

The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.

Tesla truck Roadster event

Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
surprise new Roadster.

At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft hanger in
Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s long-expected
electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling another
product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster, an
updated version of the company’s first vehicle.

The Roadster, which he said will be available in 2020, will cost $200,000.
You can reserve one right now for a cool $50,000. Musk didn’t reveal a
sticker price for the new semi truck, but the company is accepting $5,000
reservations for that vehicle, too, even though production isn’t scheduled
to start until 2019.

But Tesla is known as much for its ambition as it is for its vehicle
delivery delays; the pre-order deposit is a familiar tactic, too. And the
current shortage of Model 3 cars looms over the elaborate spectacle of the
semi-truck and Roadster announcement. The company accepted hundreds of
thousands of reservations for the $35,000 electric daily driver at $1,000
apiece, but so far has only delivered more than 200 of them.
Welcome to the circus

Elon Musk is a modern-day P.T. Barnum, says Arthur Wheaton, an expert on the
automotive industry at Cornell University’s School of Industrial and Labor
Relations. “He’s extremely enthusiastic in his goals, believes in his
mission, but I think the actual practical day-to-day and what it really
takes—I think he vastly underestimates,” he says.

Tesla has not responded to a request for comment.

“Taking the money and then promising you something later has gotten him in
some trouble for the Model 3,” Wheaton adds. “Now people who put their $1000
down for the Model 3—they may not get it for another entire year.” (The
reservation is refundable, but has been known to happen slowly.)

Unlike the Roadster, the Model 3 is meant to be a family’s main car. While
the company’s website will give customers an estimate of when they might get
it, the long delays for people who are hoping to use the Model 3 as their
primary vehicle can affect a family’s real-life logistics. The Model 3, in
contrast to the Roadster, isn’t aimed at people who don’t mind parking a lot
of money in Tesla’s coffers and waiting for their toy to arrive later.

Musk promises that the new Roadster will be “the fastest production car ever
made, period.” It will be able to accelerate from zero to 60 in just 1.9
seconds, clock a quarter mile in 8.9 seconds, and hit a top speed of over
250 miles per hour. For comparison, a 2017 Porsche 911 GT3 take 3.2 seconds
to hit 60 mph—over a second slower.

“The point of doing this,” Musk said, “is just (to) give a hardcore
smackdown to gasoline cars.” And while it’s true that the Roadster
demonstrates that an electric vehicle can compete with the best internal
combustion-driven supercars on the spec sheet, other factors—like price and
availability—are more likely to be what holds people back from adopting
them.

The cars are worlds apart in terms of performance and target audience, but
they still rely on Tesla’s underlying battery technology and supply chain.
One of the company’s key problems in the Model 3 production stemmed from the
batteries, which they make in a Nevada facility called the Gigafactory.

Tesla semi truck

About that truck

Ostensibly, the Tesla event was a reveal for the electric semi. Musk stood
in front of two sleek trucks, one silver, one grey, and rattled off stats:
the battery-powered vehicle will be able to do zero to 60 mph in five
seconds if it’s unweighted; pulling a full load, it would take 20 seconds to
do the same.

The key question for electric vehicles is the

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Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
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The company employs a "pay now, drive eventually," approach.

Tesla truck Roadster event

Elon Musk announced an electric truck on Thursday night, as well as a
surprise new Roadster.

At a theatrical, hype-filled event Thursday night in an aircraft hanger in
Hawthorne, California, Elon Musk finally revealed Tesla’s long-expected
electric semi truck. He then surprised the audience by unveiling another
product that emerged from one of those trucks—a bright red Roadster, an
updated version of the company’s first vehicle.

The Roadster, which he said will be available in 2020, will cost $200,000.
You can reserve one right now for a cool $50,000. Musk didn’t reveal a
sticker price for the new semi truck, but the company is accepting $5,000
reservations for that vehicle, too, even though production isn’t scheduled
to start until 2019.

But Tesla is known as much for its ambition as it is for its vehicle
delivery delays; the pre-order deposit is a familiar tactic, too. And the
current shortage of Model 3 cars looms over the elaborate spectacle of the
semi-truck and Roadster announcement. The company accepted hundreds of
thousands of reservations for the $35,000 electric daily driver at $1,000
apiece, but so far has only delivered more than 200 of them.
Welcome to the circus

Elon Musk is a modern-day P.T. Barnum, says Arthur Wheaton, an expert on the
automotive industry at Cornell University’s School of Industrial and Labor
Relations. “He’s extremely enthusiastic in his goals, believes in his
mission, but I think the actual practical day-to-day and what it really
takes—I think he vastly underestimates,” he says.

Tesla has not responded to a request for comment.

“Taking the money and then promising you something later has gotten him in
some trouble for the Model 3,” Wheaton adds. “Now people who put their $1000
down for the Model 3—they may not get it for another entire year.” (The
reservation is refundable, but has been known to happen slowly.)

Unlike the Roadster, the Model 3 is meant to be a family’s main car. While
the company’s website will give customers an estimate of when they might get
it, the long delays for people who are hoping to use the Model 3 as their
primary vehicle can affect a family’s real-life logistics. The Model 3, in
contrast to the Roadster, isn’t aimed at people who don’t mind parking a lot
of money in Tesla’s coffers and waiting for their toy to arrive later.

Musk promises that the new Roadster will be “the fastest production car ever
made, period.” It will be able to accelerate from zero to 60 in just 1.9
seconds, clock a quarter mile in 8.9 seconds, and hit a top speed of over
250 miles per hour. For comparison, a 2017 Porsche 911 GT3 take 3.2 seconds
to hit 60 mph—over a second slower.

“The point of doing this,” Musk said, “is just (to) give a hardcore
smackdown to gasoline cars.” And while it’s true that the Roadster
demonstrates that an electric vehicle can compete with the best internal
combustion-driven supercars on the spec sheet, other factors—like price and
availability—are more likely to be what holds people back from adopting
them.

The cars are worlds apart in terms of performance and target audience, but
they still rely on Tesla’s underlying battery technology and supply chain.
One of the company’s key problems in the Model 3 production stemmed from the
batteries, which they make in a Nevada facility called the Gigafactory.

Tesla semi truck

About that truck

Ostensibly, the Tesla event was a reveal for the electric semi. Musk stood
in front of two sleek trucks, one silver, one grey, and rattled off stats:
the battery-powered vehicle will be able to do zero to 60 mph in five
seconds if it’s unweighted; pulling a full load, it would take 20 seconds to
do the same.

The key question for electric vehicles is their range, and this one will
boast one of 500 miles, Musk said. That figure was a surprise for Glen
Kedzie, the energy and environmental counsel at the American Trucking
Associations.

“I was expecting something in the range (of) around 300 (miles),” Kedzie
says. He was also struck by the truck’s advertised acceleration rates, as
well a guarantee from Musk that it wouldn’t break down, even in a million
miles. That pledge “far exceeds any standard warranty in the tradition
diesel